Hezbollah pager explosions

there are only various factions because israel created some of them.

but for israel there would have just been the PLO and the authority in the west bank who would have eventually merged anyway.

all with in palestine generally lived in peace until 1948.

of course it isn't going to happen, why would others help the IDF in a genocide.

especially as the israely terror machine have given the game away that they hate the lebanese people and want to wipe them and their country off the map.

worried youll be associated with the other ones are you ?

War sucks.

What exactly would "both Israel and Hezbollah" be happy with considering that Hezbollah wants Israel to be completely destroyed? Maybe the Ukrainians should just negotiate with Putler? Maybe Poland should have just negotiated with the Nazis and the Soviets back in the late 1930s?

looks like the Ukraine/Russia war is starting to gradually merge with Irans war on israel in the middle east

"The US has accused Russia of holding talks on weapon transfers with Yemen’s Houthi movement, marking Tehran’s deepening ties to Moscow.

Russia was “cutting its own deals” with the Houthis to allow their ships to sail through the Red Sea unharmed, Tim Lenderking, the US special envoy for Yemen, told AFP on Thursday.

“We have confirmation that the Russians and the Houthis are in dialogue about ways to cooperate,” including on weapon transfers, he said on the sidelines of the UN general assembly, adding:

We don’t know that weapons are being transferred as we speak, but it’s come to the point that we’re all sounding the alarm bell to make sure that this does not happen.

“The notion that the Russians would provide the Houthis with lethal weapons is deeply alarming to the countries of the region,” he said.

His comments came after Reuters reported that Iran had brokered ongoing secret talks between Russia and the Houthis to transfer anti-ship missiles to the Iran-backed militant group.

Citing sources, it said that Russia has yet to decide to transfer the Yakhont missiles – also known as P-800 Oniks – which experts say could allow the Houthis to more accurately strike commercial vessels in the Red Sea and increase the threat to the US and European warships defending them." (the guardian uk)

It has always been the same war.

Russia has been fighting along side hezbollah and the Iranian Guard in Syria for a long time.

Hamas picked Putin's birthday as the day to launch it's war on Israel, a gift to him in how it took focus away from his war in Ukraine and a thanks for his friendship to the Palestinians.

One war, many fronts.

Advances anti ship missiles in the Red Sea is a game changer there.

The Putins, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iranians etc will keep pushing unless pushed back.

The striking back hard against Hamas rattled the group, wiping out Hezbollah would be another significant blow. It also helps Ukraine .

A missile fired by the IDF is as effective as a missile fired by Ukrainians in Donbas, both hit the same enemy.

How come many supporters of Israel in Europe and the US are also supporters of Putin? There is a strong crossover on display. Putin, Netanyahu, Trump and Orban are the poster boys for these guys.

Ok, if Israel is a "colony" as you claim, then where is the homeland of Israeli Jews? Remember: a colony by definition must have a metropolitan state.

Are you still waffling on about this?

What is the name of the metropolitan state that the the Dutch and German and Irish and English and Scottish and Welsh and so on had as their homeland before the US was founded? Because they all had to come from the same homeland didn't they? In your dancing-on-the-head-of-a-pin fantasy.

One for Putin, Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran to ponder at their next get together .

The Dutch set up their colony in New Amsterdam, they lost that to the British Empire, in the name of which the English, Scottish, Welsh and some Irish (who were then citizens of the UK, sort of). I don't know if the German Empire had any colonies in what would become the United States, I think the German-Americans came later.

The metropole of New Amsterdam was the Netherlands.
The metropole of the 13 Colonies was the British Empire.
The metropole of Louisiana was France.
The metropole of Spanish Florida was … no prizes for guessing that one.

But the Jews didn't have a metropole. That's just a fact. Therefore, they can't be colonists - with the possible exception of those today who live beyond the 1967 borders.

You are close to getting it now SeanW. In the same way that the Dutch came from another country, Dutch jews went to Israel. They may have been Dutch but emigrated to a British colony. Same for Russian jews. British ones. US ones. They came from somewhere else (Or at least the vast majority of them did). Ended up in a colony in the US Palestine and later gained control over it.

You appear to be under the impression that the immigrants to Palestine just materialised out of thin air or maybe appeared down from Heaven itself (in keeping with the oul' Biblical guff) in a sort of reverse rapture.

The colonists who went to the Americas before Independence (not just the US but also Canada and what is now Latin America) were nationals of European empires who travelled to the Americas with the intention of acting on behalf of their metropoles - some of which I enumerated in my last post.

There were some Jews in what is now Israel beforehand, but the Jews who travelled to the Holy Land did so because they were Jews, and their intention from the start was to set up a Jewish homeland. And unlike actual colonists - who as a group have a specified homeland - the Jews of Israel come from all over the world and since their arrival have intermarried, such that these days "Israeli" is as much an ethnicity as a nationality.

I think you're trying to create the narrative somehow that all the Jewish immigrants were British colonialists and therefore their metropole was Britain, but that's a stretch.

SeanW - the man who can read the minds of long dead emigrants to the Americas. We now have the farcical blather (contrary to documented history) that it is the imagined intentions that distinguish between a colony and not.

The jewish people that went to the Americas, regardless of where they came from, did so with the intention of acting on behalf of London. Whereas the jewish people who emigrated to Palestine in the 1920's didn't, Apparently. And all other emigrants to the America's did so too. All the history books which tell us that the Pilgrims traveled to escape religious intolerance and persecution are wrong.

This is really tiresome. And even if your ramblings had any tiny bit of merit - which they don't - none of them would excuse the zionists genocide and theft and destruction

I would link the ukranian situation more to the plight of the Palestinians who also see their land beingstolen on a daily basis and when they eventually retaliate they get their hospitals and schools bombed

That does not add up. Nearly all of Israel's support is coming from right wing, conservative types and these are the ones who have a sneaking regard for Putin and who strongly dislike Ukraine and Zelensky. It's true of course that there are far left types who support Hamas and Putin (a couple of recent MEPs spring to mind), but that just emphasises the point that the far right and left have more in common than they would like to admit.

Because it's her home? When she was born Lebanon was still part of a french mandate. She could have been living there her whole life.

The idea that a french woman is to blame when an israeli bomb blew her up in her own home, is a stretch.

You can support Palestine without supporting Hamas. One would assume that the overwhelming number of people who have marched for Palestine were strongly opposed to and critical of the October 7th atrocities.

You can support Palestine without supporting Hamas.

Not really.

One would assume that the overwhelming number of people who have marched for Palestine were strongly opposed to and critical of the October 7th atrocities.

One would assume the complete opposite, especially given that many of these marches had the Hamas genocidal "from the river to the sea" chant.

Open the 7/10 thread and see how many are siding with the Palestinians on that day alone, before Israel had a chance to respond.

One thing that is glaringly obvious flaw in Hezbollah is when you look at the commanders who are being dropped, many of them have been in that position or senior positions for 20 and 30 years.

Few start to innovate or get a 2nd wind after 20 years in a job, certainly some will and these people view their work as their Gods command so are incredibly motivated and dedicated.

It means that all the experience and knowledge is in a small and older group.

No bringing up new talent.

Which goes to show why there is talk of Iran bringing in a man from Iraq, military experienced, younger. Hezbollah have no talent plan.

Well ironically it would seem Bibi was in the Russian camp too, as numerous times he ignored Zelensky's request for help. We know Bibi has expressed past admiration for Putin too. He might soon be able to welcome Bibi into the war crimes club. You are actually right about what Hezbollah should do,but I notice you are not as quick to say the Israelis should implement UN resolutions and abide by court rulings. I see you have finally dropped the nonsense about Israel's survival at being stake. Whatever intent their enemies may have, the last week has made it abundantly clear until they gain parity in their military capabilities then the state of Israel does not face an existential threat. The ones who face the existential threat are the Iranian leadership if they intervene and engage Israel directly. Which is why they are desperate to stay out of it.

Edit: never mind.