Hotel in Tramore

Let's be honest, all the men in tents along the canal need to be moved into somewhere.

100% correct Hijpo

Fred Forsey. Four years in jail for taking payments from developers and going to councillors to get land rezoned.

You aren't that naive to think the links are directly back to politicians. You know as well as everyone else there's an acquaintance of a cousin involved when it comes to this stuff.

It only happens if they get caught right?? 😉

But let's not derail it any further.

Which hotel are you talking about? The one by the library or the one by the amusements?

Show me where anyone tared every politician with the same brush. For one, there were two specific parties named by one poster so that can't mean all politicians, right? Second, just because plural is used you cant assume it means all just because that's what you want it to mean so you can go off on one.

With you being a moderator I would have expected that, at the very least, posts are read properly without your judgment being skewed because how dare anyone have an opinion on some ethically sketchy business opportunities but whatever. Show me a business associated with a politician or buddies of a politician that own a business that hasn't come out on top. Garaunteed the majority have, but you'll just put it down to extremely good business practices 😀

Imagine saying a personal view is a conspiracy theory because you don't have the same opinion, even though there's evidence of business with links to politicians getting lucrative deals and contracts and inside information 😀 Unbelievable

Anyway, I left it where it was and tried to bring the thread back on track regarding the hotel. Then you launch in and brought it back around to politicians.

so, for the second time of asking because you derailed it.

The hotel, I haven't seen any workers going in or out of that place, maybe when they are finished with the two housing estates they are building they will start on their "boutique" hotel.

You asked for one very specifically in waterford, I gave you one. You know I'm not going to provide you with 50 so just ask for 50 and yourself and cabaal can have your "ah ha gotcha" moment. Have another read, I didn't say anything about FF/FG. Granted, my first post wasn't about the construction on the hotel, however I did try and get back on topic.

Anyway, third times a charm, I checked the planning website and it looks like they don't even have planning permission submitted yet so I guess they can't do anything with it until they do??

I guess whatever the plan on doing needs permission, could need ground works or complete changes to the outside of the building?

Yeah, could struggle with limited parking although they have extended the carpark beside the library up into the Supervalue one. In saying that, if it's a "boutique" hotel it could be coach loads of well to do foreigners who won't need parking.

Maybe they are waiting to see what happens with the airport as well.

…and the disturbing reality is folks, we re very likely to experience perpetual ffg governments, well into the 30's, maybe even the 40's, as we re not willing to give the only alternative government party a shot at it, i.e. sf, so, keep the recovery going!

i some what agree and disagree, our established parties are stuck, simply unable to truly change, but in saying that, our opposition isnt a whole lot better either, ireland and the eu is in serious trouble, theres clearly extremely serious social and now economic issues arising right across the continent, irelands economy on paper certainly looks good, extremely good in fact, but our rapidly growing social problems will more than likely wipe that out very very quickly….

we have extremely serious problems growing in housing, health care, long term infrastructure problems, including transport infrastructure etc etc etc, again, established parities are completely stuck, thinking market entities will eventually resolve these rapidly growing issues, but the reality is, this is very unlikely to be the case!

i do agree that welfare in other parts of the eu is worse than here, but the reality is, not only are many on welfare in trouble here, so to are many workers to, including some earning healthy 5 figures, thats a problem!

this is where 'social mobility' comes into it, or the lack of, its clearly obvious the eu now has a serious social mobility problem, and thats a problem for us all, if we dont rectify this quickly, the eu will sink, and very very quickly, we have to urgently do something about this, not only for younger generations, but for all of us, as its very unlikely critical welfare needs such as pension funds wont be sustainable in the future, nor will our health care systems, including elder care, due to our aging populations…

ireland does have a good standard of living, if your critical needs such as housing, health care, welfare etc are being met, but the reality is, this is in decline for more and more! thats social mobility again!

but again, dont worry, we re not gonna experience any major governmental changes here for a very long time, if ever, so, tis all good!

again, i do somewhat agree, government is finally kicking into the gear, but a significant amount of societal damage has now been done from current and past government failures, and a lot of that is now permanent, governments were warned about this years ago, yet nothing!

for example, many, possible most that have found themselves homeless during this period will now have significant health care problems for the remainder of their lives, including and in particular long term mental health issues, some extremely serious, many and possible most will never actually work. this clearly puts astonishing pressure on our critical social services, welfare, health care etc

again, we knew this was gonna happen, we know this is the outcome of such decisions and policies, we ve known this for decades, yet…..

we re all going to pay for this, indefinitely, and not just financially!

yes its great our critical services are starting to kick into gear, but its simply too late for many now, just too late!

yes its a mammoth task to do what needs to be done, all governments would struggle with the task, but again, we were warned many years ago, actually decades ago!