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USA 2024 presidential election

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,883 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Democrats should not have conceded that election

    How could they have continued the fight after the Supreme Court had ruled?

    Al Gore always said the only avenue open to him after that was calling the army onto the streets…



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,383 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Yes I believe if the recount the USSC stopped had been allowed finish it would have stayed as a Bush win regardless. A full state recount however would have led to Gore.

    Fairly ridiculous system all in all. It's particularly perverse when you realise they have two full months before the president takes power anyway. Why not use that time to make sure the results were correct?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Republicans feel voting access and accurate tabulating are inherently undemocratic, which says all you need to know about them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    Apparently The Chump came out yesterday and said that "Harris was born brain damaged" or something just as disgusting, what a pathetic excuse for a human being the orange idiot is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,776 ✭✭✭eire4


    At this point they are an authoritarian party for the most part. They truly are a disgrace to all the ideals of the US in its founding and constitution.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,994 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    And in the same weekend, he managed to come across as proud that in his business dealings he avoided paying overtime to staff as much as possible.

    A view not likely to endear him to Teamster unions which is something he has still to do as discussed over the last couple of pages here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,598 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Yes, but Sean O'Brien is mad about Trump, for whatever is his reason, as are a slim majority of his co-union member unions.

    It beggars belief that they want this guy to win, and at the opposite end you had a president actually join a picket line.

    We live in such a topsy turvy world.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,651 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's not that topsy turvy, honestly. The dirty little secret of left wing politics is that many people who vote left tend to be small c conservatives who oppose the main conservative party. In the US, the Democrats are the party of unions so unions are closely aligned with them.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,598 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,976 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    There's a long and inglorious history of voter suppression in the USA - typically targeting indigenous Americans and African Americans, but not always limited to those groups.

    The modern Republican party are particularly aggressive about it - but it's been a stain on American politics for a long time now.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,651 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭rock22


    "The dirty little secret of left wing politics is that many people who vote left tend to be small c conservatives "

    What an extraordinary comment. I suppose, to quote yourself from many of your previous posts, , I assume you have the evidence to back this up.

    The Irish Times carries a report of a journey across Pennsylvania in its' weekend magazine. In both Clairton and Johnston, two small towns in the west of the state, it was economic issues thet are driving voter intentions. This was a steel producing area but it is now cheaper to buy in steel from China. One interviewee describes themselves as 'the people at the bottom".

    But this downturn dates back to the 1970s, so it was fifty years in the making. Successive Democrat and Republican governments did little for the area. There is no sense that Trump will regenerate industry here but there is a feeling that the economy was better four years ago. And people seem less concerned about Trump rhetoric and more about getting the economy moving again.

    Whichever candidate can give the "people at the bottom" the most reason to hope will surely win their votes.

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