Womens' rugby Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Not everything has to be a problem that's solely attributed to a perceived lack of respect to Womens rugby.

Inventing issues just generates pointless noise and takes away from the actual and real issues surrounding a cause.

The game was played in Vancouver. 8 Hours behind Irish time.

USA and Canada were the 2 previous fixtures in the stadium.

Of course they're going to get the favourable day slots. Gives them a shot at generating genuine interest in the local time zones.

4pm local time is not a shite kick off time.

In fact, for Irish fans to watch it at a reasonable time you'd have had to put the game on at 12:00. Now THAT is a shite kick off time for the players. They have to get up earlier, manage their meal times earlier, disrupt sleep schedule. Ask any high performance athlete. Earlier kick off times are rarely favoured by any of them.

And in the interest of fairness. There are 3 game slots in the tournament. We just got the latest one. Our next 2 fixtures are in the other 2 earlier slots.

So if you REALLY cared about Womens rugby then you'd be happy they played a game at a near ideal time in their day…

So your outrage is based exclusively on a hypothetical? Right. That sounds absolutely exhausting.

In a triple header mens scenario in the same context, USA would be first up. Sunday viewing ideal time slot for the 3 US time zones, generates good potential interest ahead of the RWC 31 which is what they're trying to do. That time slot stays the same.

Next slot is Canada, they're the hosts. Of course they get the favourable 15:45 local time slot. Perfect time on a Sunday to get a crowd in.

So in this scenario no. I don't think the time slot changes.

Also. Say we got carte blanche to put it on whenever we wanted during the day there is hardly any times that would suit the TV audiences while still making it a goer for the players to actually play it.

Sunday 9pm in Dublin, is 1pm in Vancouver is 9am in Wellington on Monday….

So we have a time that is too late for kids etc to watch in Dublin, a horribly early time for the players to play AND right in time for school and work in New Zealand….

So maybe you play the game Saturday? But there's already the WXV2 fixtures on.

Again…. inventing pointless issues to generate faux outrage takes legitimacy away from actual issues.

Bask and enjoy the win. It was a great one

I don't want the last word nor an argument.

I want it shown how incorrect and unreasonable you were. I want to highlight how much your post was in bad faith.

You offered no solution even when presented with several reasonable counter points.

We're the morning of the greatest Irish Womens win in 11 years. And you go and stink the place up with pointless conjecture.

Admitting you're wrong is not a sign of weakness you know. Quite the opposite.

I don't usually watch the post match interviews when I'm not watching a game live but I'm glad I did here.

Scott Bemand echoed exactly what I had thought about that team as I watched.

He has transformed this team into a team that is a nightmare to play against. They work for absolutely everything, make life really difficult for the opposition and back each other up at every point. Absolute grit from minutes 1 to 80.

The quality of the defence was just unrecognisable from any other point in Irish Womens rugby. The fitness to get off the line and put pressure on NZ and then the discipline to keep the shape as New Zealand threw it about and broke the line.

New Zealand had 13 line breaks yet only scored 3 tries. They're a top quality side and will cut you to pieces with their handling. So when they got through the work rate to get back in the line and keep making hits was incredible.

This was summed up by the extremely impressive Niamh O'Dowd. Phase after phase she shot off the line and put real pressure on the ball carrier, forcing mistakes or runner checks etc. It was amazing to see her fitness and determination. 6 tackles doesn't paint the full picture of just how crucial she was to Irelands defensive effort. Combined with 16 carries of her own.

The other Wexford native in Aoife Wafer is a superstar. Abrasive, hard carrying and hitting back row. 2 tries, 17 carries, 5 defenders beaten, 3 offloads, 7 passes, 9 tackles puts her on or near the top of every single stat metric there. Astonishing performance.

And seeing her interview after - she is a class act and a credit to herself and Ireland.

The aforementioned players are 24 and 21 respectively. A new generation and a very exciting one.

5am Irish time means 9pm Sunday Local time (Vancouver) and 5pm Monday NZ time.

I don't see how 5am is a better time to watch something than 3am to be honest. Neither are a sociable hour in any demographic this tournament and the IRFU are trying to target.

Also 9pm is an atrocious kick off time for anyone. Yes they do it in the Top14. And they are very much unique in that aspect.

The Rugby Championship didn't have kick off times that late. And they have a similar global time zone issue

Good god mate you're reaching so far now you could pat the girls on the back from where you're stood 😂

Phog my issue with your original point is clear and consistent.

You masked your personal annoyance at the fixture time behind an overarching issue with the attitude of Womens Rugby.

Virtue signalling of this manner takes away from the genuine issues that actually exist.

You don't like that the game was on at 3am Irish time. Fine.

However refusing to admit that this time was largely unavoidable due to geographical time zones and doubling down just doesn't help matters.

The Irish Womens team who you claimed to be championing in your original post actually got to play the game at a favourable time for them.

There are minute windows where this would have worked and simply put. There was zero way that this fixture goes ahead at a time that pleased a) The players b) The Irish fans c) The Kiwi fans.