VW ID.3

VW selling ID.3 for under 30k from 1st October in Germany

why would it matter to Irish Customers? Because it is for orders in 2025 to reduce fleet co2 reductions europe wide so they will probably offer similar pricing in Ireland. Their backs are against the wall with CO2 figures and can't sell ICE cars without selling Electric powered cars unless they wish to pay big CO2 fines.

If the ID.3 is within spitting distance of the price of an MG4 or ByD Dolphin the ID.3 will always be the better purchase especially as it is a much better car now than it was in 2021. The software and materials are better.

Order your 251 plate ID.3 now!!!

https://www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de/niedersachsen/wolfsburg/article407336822/preishammer-von-vw-der-id3-kostet-bald-unter-30000-euro.html

the mystery of disappearing posts.

EDIT: ignore me

Different incentives and VRT? As I recall the threshold for their incentives is much lower now, below £30k maybe?

If it does go through then the GTX Pro Performance looks like a pretty good deal for the bigger battery and extra power, plus the added comforts

Real shame there's no 58kWh GTX/VZ or whatever the current battery size is, I don't need 79kWh for my 28km commute and the extra ~100-150kg will just hurt the handling...

cupra born is 170kw/231ps with mid sized battery

These cars are much more capable than when first released.

trim level on GTX was fairly spartan when I looked at it but that is another country website.

I have an id4 already

I noticed that, I'm happy with the base GTX getting a good price for my 1st but I am unsure the pricing of the GTX is incorrect compared to other countries.

I agree there is something very odd about the Irish prices. Go on any car manufacturers(all not just VW) Irish website and then UK or Germany or Spain and every time Ireland pays way more than any other country. So something not right about Irish prices on a new more powerful model.

I'm convinced that someone in VW Ireland is about to lose their job

It must be a glitch, but if a few folks get orders in before VW fixes it then good for them

I doubt anyone would lose their job, every single time new pricing comes in for January/July there's always differences between the pricelist and configurator, the configurator doesn't work properly, price list is inconsistent etc. I could understand if it was a dealer getting it wrong but the fact VW Ireland clearly never proof read their stuff is bonkers.

We also always seem to be one of the last countries to have stuff live on the configurator, to get prices or to just have cars to test in general.

I'll be honest I wouldn't be surprised if VW Ireland didn't know how many wheels the car had

Don't get me wrong, I love my ID.4 and I'm trying to persuade the missus to get an ID.3

But as a company VW Ireland, and all their dealerships are absolute morons

EDIT: Okay I'll refine that, all the Joe Duffy dealerships are morons, haven't heard anything good about Frank Keane either.

Outside Dublin seems better, dealerships can tell the front end of a car from the back end

Should have it first few days of January. Loved my 1st never had any issues so hopefully this will be as good

Ha ha, one of the dealerships wanted to hire me yesterday as I knew more about the car then the sales person. Dealership as mentioned above.

Requested the early January date. Spent a lot of time looking at option packs but decided that I was happy to add none. Only thing extra is the mats but the garage is paying for them.

Agree with this, the area view is dead handy when parking. The biggest issue is remembering you aren't playing some flash game and the stake for game over are a bit higher

Travel Assist is brilliant for long motorway drives. Not really able to handle country roads but since most long journeys consist of both road types it'll take the work out for a big chunk. It's also good for traffic jams, can set a low speed and it'll start and stop with the car in front. ACC does that to but you need to handle the steering

Lumbar support is good if you need it, but pointless otherwise

Discover Pro is just the maps I think, can't remember exactly. As I recall it means you get the map updates included and don't need to pay a seperate subscription

Okay so lane keeping stops you leaving the lane unintentionally, but doesn't do anything to follow the lane

So if you came to a bend and didn't steer (don't try this) the lane keeping would intervene when you got too close to the lines and steer to keep you on the line

But it's a safety system rather than a driving aid, if you tried to use it like an autopilot you'd end up ping ponging around the lane with the car screaming alerts at you

Travel Assist is much more of a driver aid, it'll proactively steer to maintain the position within the lane. Basically on a motorway, it'll follow the motorway around bends and such. Combined with ACC it'll also match speed with the car in front

In general Travel Assist seems to try and maintain the lane position from when it was started, if you're slightly to the right or left then you'll stay there. This is in contrast to Tesla Autopilot which will try to stick rigidly to the centre of the lane. Sometimes on suboptimal Irish roads it can be better to be slightly off centre I find

It can also do other things, like if it sees a bend ahead it might slow down to safely take the bend. The newer cars can also do lane changes to overtake, although you have to give it the okay first

It's important to remember that it isn't autonomous driving. For example if you're coming to your exit Travel Assist won't exit the motorway for you, you need to switch it off and do that yourself

One other thing to remember is that the thing can't see traffic jams in the distance. If you're doing the famous M7 120 to 0 sudden traffic then you'll want to take over and brake earlier, otherwise the car might leave it to the last moment

Another thing I've noticed is that the Lane keeping (Lane Assist) seems a lot better in cars with Travel Assist. Just noticed that the posters here who have it don't complain about the lane warning beeping nearly as much

Regarding the subscription thing, VW (and others) have been trying to sell customers on monthly subscriptions for years now. Unsurprisingly, no-one goes for it so they tend to end up just including the add on packages as standard

If the cars were significantly cheaper without the subscription then it might be worthwhile, but it's still a €35-40k car at the end of the day. Asking for €30 per month or something on top is a bit much

Price ladder should be the company motto 😂

It should be at the end, but I think some of the packages don't always show up for some reason

At the end of the day the configuration is only an indicator of price, not an actual order

Can't comment on the heat pump but I've the panoramic roof on my ID.4

You're correct, it doesn't open so you can't stick your head out the top unfortunately

Admittedly you don't get the full effect up the front, but it does open the car up a lot and make it a much brighter space

On the flip side, it can get very bright and warm in the car so you might find yourself using the sun shade. This is particularly true if you've kids as they'll probably moan about the sun in their eyes

At the end of the day it's a luxury, doesn't functionally improve the car. At €1700 or so it's up to you whether it's worth it. Personally I'd go for it again, but I'd probably drink a few whiskeys afterwards to help forget how much it cost

Only other options are Bicycle Carrier Preparation and Type 2 Charging Cable.

Slim pickings.

I deliberately chose not to get a model with the panoramic roof on our MY22. Most of them had it standard at the time. Just seemed like something likely to decrease the solidity of the car. Also heard reports of squeaks. Plus my bald head doesn’t like the sun. 😝

Good news about the gtx, I have a build week of 47