Israel are going to start WWIII

Israel would be fools to hit Iran hard, over some firecrackers , Iran will strike back for real if provoked.

There was a never ending debate about colonies having metropoles.

Things often don't end. Sometimes they have to be ended, sometimes the other side have to be wiped out.

Well they didn't think that on that one.

They are going to get 7 shades kicked out of them and if they can respond and the likely will they'll see every military asset levelled.

Israel has a chance to end the threat of the mullahs, it may not get it again.

Israeli women, yes, other nationalities, no. It's an apartheid state for sucks fate. Educate yourself.

A lot of casual racism on this thread, I would hope that this thread will be moderated correctly

That equation makes no sense.

I'm seeing a huge amount of pushback on UK social media against Starmer for his 'We stand with Israel' comments this evening. Apart from the usual English far right types, there doesn't seem to be much support out there for Netanyahu and the IDF.

No they haven't. And such an agreement is definitely not imminent either.

They have a bit of a military trade understanding and that's about it.

They're actually in competition in oil sales to China. Which Iran aren't happy about.

Armenia and Russia's agreement evaporating recently should highlight the futility of anything of the sorts anyways.

Does Iran have a right to defend itself?

Militarily, Iran doesn't want a war, as it will push back the many decades of progress it has made. However, if cornered, Iran will be no pushover. It's not like Israel can just roll over a border into Iran. Iran has significant armed forces and they are an extremely proud nation. Airstrikes are the only way Israel and its dubious allies can try to harm Iran and Iran knows and expects this. It has had decades to plan for both Israeli airstrikes. Its quite a long way from Israel too, and even with air-refueling, it's quite a stretch for Israel to reach all of Iran. As many military advisors have already said, the US definitely does not want a war with Iran. It would not go the way many people think it would.

For example, just 200 ballistic missiles were fired today. Iran have almost 3 to 5000 of them in stock.

Israelis have been retaliating against fake attacks for years. The Iron Dome does not exist and today's attacks are evidence of this. Why would Lebanon/Hezbollah/Hamas waste missiles over the years if they knew they will be intercepted? Why would they waste thousands worth of missiles for empty pot-shots? Truth is, they never fired anything. If it doesn't make sense, then it's not true.

Why are the US and UK only acting with such outspoken condemnation now? It's because this is one of the few times that actual missiles have been launched into Israeli territory. Everything before this was completely fake and used by Israelis as a basis for "retaliation".

Here's a video from a few days ago showing the so called "Iron dome" intercepting enemy missiles:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/a1GfPk14Asfv

Clearly shows they are nothing but fireworks launched from within Israeli territory. There is no Iron dome, such a technology that can intercept projectiles going at such speed simply cannot perform the way the israelis claim.

Its not honestly meant. It's almost invariably demanded of pro-palestinian, or even just neutral figures to right at the start of the discussion concede that israel has a right to defend itself.

If a pro-palestinian figure say yes, israel has a right to defend itself they are immediately conceding that israel is defending itself, and the conversation is now about what israel - the victim in this narrative - must do to defend itself.

The only right answer is to say israel is an illegal occupation of Palestinian land and it has no right to defend itself. These people wouldn't grant that the Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

Lol, I didn't "disappear", I just don't live on boards 24/7. But regarding your questions of numbers, I'm not sure the relevance.

One is either at war or they are not. As for Hezbollah, they've been attacking Israel non-stop starting 8 October last year, so they can't complain now that they are in the "finding out" stage of FAFO. (F around, Find Out)

Labour Friends of Israel is a powerful group. Starmer has used accusations of anti-semetisim to purge those who don't toe the line.

Netanyahu and his fellow headbangers in Likud wants escalation. They want the conflict to expand and go on. Because when it stops, they have an awful lot of explaining to do and will, in all likelihood, find themselves out of power in Israel. The longer this goes on, the more chance they have of consolidating their position.

Netanyahu will find himself in jail when the war cabinet dissolves. He is under investigation and almost a certainty to be found guilty, but this cannot happen while he is PM.

Don't forget there have been massive public protests against the netanyahu government in Tel Aviv for months and months. He is well and truly holding the country to ransom

did the Irananian leaders just do enough to stay alive or will Israel carry out an SMO soon, what with the one year anniversary of 7th Oct and the US without any sort of leader it would be a good time to do some accounts settling

Hopefully Timmy. He's, absolutely, one of the most disgusting world leaders operating at present and that's saying something.

Not quite true. Regan put manners on Shamir when he suspended military aid to Israel. Bush Senior did it too. Now it maybe that APIAC is more powerful now or that it being an election cycle Bibi has Joe snookered. Although I have a feeling Joe being a self declared proud zionist wouldn't do it at any time. By the way the US Government has given over 310 billion dollars to Israel since 1948.

The thing about the massive foreign aid the US sends to the likes of Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia to quell tensions after every flairup, what will happen when, and it will happen, the US simply can't afford it anymore?

If they pick a favorite then they're committed to boots on the ground if everyone else they had been buying off bands together.

I suspect he will cut some sort of deal to avoid a jail sentence. According to the BBC he has received a bounce in the polls after the decimation of the Hezbollah military and political leadership. Although that could prove to be fleeting- I hope so anyway.

Yet again no anti-semitism involved at all. Great to see such honesty for a change.

There is absolutely no doubt by some Israeli commentators that October 7th was orchestrated to a point by Bibi and his Ghouls with the soul aim of destroying the very notion of a 2 state solution ever happening. Keeping him out of prison was an added bonus.

He is just as dangerous as anything else in that region.

Not entirely sure the the value of selectively picking one period from half a century ago. It doesn't negate the history before or since. The region rules are well able to create their own wars and conflicts.

Not sure it is overlooked. Seems well reported.