Israel are going to start WWIII

I can’t remember which news site I read it on yesterday but they mentioned in an all out war Iran would block the strait of hormuz(20/30miles at its narrowest point) and since the Russian invasion of Ukraine most of Europes Lng comes from Qatar which passes through that area so it would have massive implications for the EU. Think of the nuisance the Houthi’s have caused even with limited means, being bombed etc imagine the havoc Iran could cause in comparison.

The US and Europe have been pathetic throughout this entire time , pussyfooting around Israel. Now it’s lead to where we are, if there’s a massive energy crisis this winter Ursula the idiot will be scrambling and issuing statements of condemnation without ever acknowledging she played a part in how it got to this stage.

what does Israel expect ? …. They have killed thousands of Palestinians over the years …is it any wonder Every nation in the Middle East hates them - stealing land off the natives is never right !

what are the chances US will hit Iran this time too?

60-40 by the sound of it

Wonder what the targets will be? I presume missile factories and storage will be high on the list.

Joe Biden saying he does not support an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities. Also, Israel has nuclear reactors as well - an eye for an eye exchange would not be in Israel's interests.

It's far worse than that. Jews will be a target in most countries in the world. I mentioned it in a previous post. For every action there is a reaction. They are sowing the seeds of future terrorists in the last year.

The Israelis should call the bluff of Iran and their proxies by calling for a ceasefire. Let's see who blinks first.

The UN troops should be evacuated, they serve no purpose in bunkers and given the waring parties indiscriminate bombing, they are sitting ducks

When you say "Looks like" where are you looking?

Edit sorry didn't see the last line.

Maybe, but i would not like to be a US soldier staying on a base within 2000 km of Iran.

Looks like Israel's response might be imminent

And there is nothing anti-semitic about this opinion. (I don't hold this opinion, but it's not racist)

The way the country was created, and where it was created is what you have a problem with. And you would have the same problem if it was Arabs, or Germans or Irish who created a country in such a way.

Saying "Israel is an illegitimate country and should not exist" is quite simply not racist and not anti-semitic in my view. It has nothing to do with the fact that the people who created the state are Jewish.

The suspicion is that the Israeli regime is using recent events to justify launching a major pre-emptive strike on Iran and disabling its nuclear capacity. This may be Netanyahu's real motivation and end game.

Massive is going to be a relative term. Seven deaths in a day's fighting of an initial invasion, fourteen in two, is an administrative exercise for an army. Israel reported sixteen casualties after two days in Gaza last year, so we're not talking ridiculously disproportionate numbers here.

Everything is relative.

Anyway the 8 deaths were Elite commandos in a very limited incursion so far.

The point remains Hezbollah are a more formidable, equipped and experienced foe than Hamas as is the Lebanon as an arena.

Eight IDF soldiers killed, seven very seriously injured and three Markova tanks destroyed resulting in the IDF retreating from the area. This is getting very serious now and just goes to prove that old men make war and young men die. Time for talks and sort this out.

Yeah, I know what the point is. My point point is that American foreign still didn't change in any significant way and it won't under any President. Support of Israel is built into the American political landscape and it will continue to be that way until she no longer has any of her own interests there, regardless if they wag a finger every now and then.

Should Biden (and Harris) be more strict with Israel? Yes. Will they in an election year? Absolutely not. The Jewish vote is far too important to them in the time that's in it.

Yeah, that's just another twitter troll engagement account. Clear out your feed:-)

Israel will not make inroads in South Lebanon. They will get stuck and suffer heavy casualties same as 2006.

Its asymmetric warfare - Hezbollah may lack air support but they more than make up for it with ATGMs, missiles and Man pads. That plus the terrain will make it exceedingly difficult for the IDF to gain ground.

IEDs also were involved in some of these early casualties - presumably Hezbollah has large swathes of the border area booby trapped.

Those thinking Hezbollah will roll over or be destroyed are very wrong

I wasn't suggesting that it would nor do i expect it ever will, just that is is possible to get the Israeli government to modify their behaviour if the political will is there

I am well aware they won't do anything in an election year, which is why Bibi is so emboldened. I am not confident Harris will do anything to reign in Bibi if elected, but let's see.

The political situation is very different though. Reagan merely suspended delivery of jets to Israel because they attacked an ally of theirs, Iraq. The Reagan admin was supporting Saddam Hussain at the time and Israeli attacks on Iraq was a strict no no. Reagan, or more to the point his administration, didn't want to see Iraq weakened in any way as a prolonged conflict between them and Iran was in America's interests. America's move at the time was purely strategic and had nothing to do with any kind of altruism.

At present, Israel isn't attacking any US allies. The US, as a political entity, doesn't give a crap about Palestine. Nor does it really care all that much if Israel weakens Iran. They may not want things to get too out of hand, as in an all out war. But they won't rock the boat too much with regards to their support for Israel.

And I'll say this too, if Reagan was in the middle of a re-election campaign right now and under the same circumstances. He wouldn't say shit either.

We'll see how the US proceeds after the election and what path it will take with regards to its support for Israel.

Any objective analysis shows israel is the state eager for war. They've a long history of attacking Iranian citizens, embassies, scientists and government facilities - both openly through israeli airstrikes, or more discreetly via mossad operations, or just by funding terrorist groups in Iran. Even within the last 12 months they bombed an Iranian embassy and bombed a government building in Iran itself, along with killing numerous Iranian figures. These are all highly aggressive and highly provocative - any single one of them is an act of war.

And lets face it israel is currently fighting in Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen and now wants to open a third front with Iran. They're clearly the ones trying to spark a regional war because they are the ones attacking others throughout the region.

Its very clear israel is trying to provoke Iran as much as is possible, whereas Iran has been incredibly restrained. Too restrained some might say. Iran has a right to defend itself, and the vast majority of the world outside the US, israel and Europe will sympathise with Iran, not israel if israel continues to attempt to provoke a war.

The problem israel has is that Iran has a lot more than 200 missiles. And israel's air defences where overwhelmed in just the first wave. I think its very noticeable that there hasnt been the chest thumping reaction about israeli air defences that was seen in April this time.

A pre emptive strike against Iran after 200 ballistic missiles were fired by Iran a few days.

Isn't "whataboutery" the Left's defence for the genocidal call to eradicate Israel with their chant "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free?" Because that is fairly clear, but leftists like to engage in whataboutery to defend this.

And while we're on the topic, how come the largely fictitious crimes Israel get accused of are taken so much more seriously than actual crimes, such as the removal of Armenians from their ancestral homeland in Nagorno Karabakh? Or the three ongoing actual genocides being carried out by the Chinese (against Uighur Muslims, Tibetans and Inner Mongolians)?

iran has a long history of chanting "death to america, death to israel"

iran has a long history of calling for israel's total annihilation and destruction

it has funded its proxies all throughout the middle east and prompted them to target and attack Israel

Iran's religious leaders and revolutionary gaurd are only dying for a war with Israel and the West

There will be very little sympathy when they are over thrown and much rejoicing by the ordinary decent people of Iran

He did it for his own interests of course. He also intervened to stop the IDF in Lebanon twice. On one of the occasions it was to prevent the IDF from bombing a hotel popular with western reporters- i' m sure the IDF were intent on bombing it as a pre emptive self defense measure.

. We saw in the Gaza war Biden failing to intervene to stop the IDF attacking Al jazeera offices. This was but one of many incidents where Bibi humiliated Biden.

I suppose supporters of the Democrats can say Biden's hands were tied because it's an election cycle, but as previously stated Biden is a commited zionist would he have done anything differently post election( I doubt it) It certainly might be in Harris's interest to do something if elected to bring disaffected democratic members back into the fold. Whether she has the backbone to do anything remains to be seen.