Israel are going to start WWIII

That's a message to the Americans. Iran had to be seen to do something after the killing of Haniyeh in Iran and the killing of Nasrallah and a top Iranian General . Israel would have taken smiliar action if the Iranians had managed to kill senior IDF personnel in an airstrike.

The Iranians don't want a war because they know they can't win a war against Israel. Bibi seems keen on war. He would be less keen if the Iranian military was a match for the IDF

Israel stands for Evil

Losing 8 special forces soliders in a day is a blow. They won't want be to losing those kind of soliders at that rate too often, because if they do it's going to start to resemble 2006 again. We will see in the coming days if those months of special forces raids start to pay dividend.

It certainly isn't a good day for them.

Hezbollah are a proper ground army and highly motivated and full of religious fervour about killing the enemy and martyrdom.

Could it go over a 1000 dead IDF. Yes, readily. If they go to dismantle Hezbollah all the way across the south, that could take months.

You seem to be enjoying all this bloodshed Danzy. Are you ok?

Perfectly ok. I'm just glad that the severe threat that groups like Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iranian regime are being dealt with.

Their direct interests weren't really being interfered with in Lebanon. it has everything to do with backbone, if you present yourself as a leader of the free world who champions human rights and democracy and the rule of law. Stop engaging in double standards and confront Israel. It could also be argued that their interests are infact being threatened if a wider war break outs between Israel and Iran. Which is why they are likely scrambling behind the scenes to try and prevent a war between Israel and Iran

He is perfectly serious

Sean w has to believe they are fictious accusations and that they are only being levelled by left wing detractors for two reasons: (1) he can't abide the thought people who otherwise share his right wing views are critical of Israel

(2) He doesn't want to confront his own double standards- he'll clutch pearls if the other side dares to think about doing what Israel actually does-Israel according to Sean can do anything in the name of self defense.! Kill nuns; rape and torture detainees;throw people off a roof;use human shields- it's all grand because the IDF did it and it was clearly self defense.

He's essentially in the same camp as Putin in denying and deriding the opinion of international courts and organisations who have documented the war crimes and violations of international law by both Russia and Israel. He of course was all for the courts when they were indicting Putin.

leath_dub8:44 pm

Neither side has a monopoly on whataboutery.

Thanks for confirming my analysis.

"Fictional crimes"? You can't be serious!

If you had sons of your own in the IDF you might think differently. You seem to treat this like its a game.

It should come as no surprise to anyone that American policy is chock full of double standards. It always has been. They won't "confront Israel" if there is nothing in it for them and so far there's nothing really in it for them. Israel will continue to push the boundaries of acceptable behaviour until they push it too far.

They maybe pushing it too far now. We have seen reports American officials are very frustrated with them at present. A wider war couldn't threaten American interests.

Looks like the Israeli's are downplaying the missile attack by Iran in terms of damaged caused. It appears Iran endeavoured to only hit military targets unlike the Israeli's. It does appear that their shipping casualties in trying to invade Lebanon.

Despite any pleas from America I expect Israel to retaliate which will prompt Iran to strike civilian infrastructure. Israel may eliminate key Hezbollah and Hamas figures but it won't defeat these movements. Hard to see how Israel as a country survives in it's current guise.

Also he may think differently if he witnessed 18 members of his family killed same day.

Here's another alternative, and it may not be practical or impossible, but how about the zionists stop being such arrogant pricks to their neighbours all the time.

Oct. 7th would not have happened had they not be up to their continuous shenanigans. They would have gotten their hostages back alive had they continued the negotiations at the end of last year. They blamed Hamas for breaking the ceasefire, Hamas blamed the zionists. Even if it was the former, they would have surely been better off turning a blind eye to the blame game for another few days til they got more of their people back. But…..arrogance…..

The US might have a bad conscience because it refused 900 Jews, who were fleeing the Nazis, entry in 1939 when they refused the ship St. Louis permission to dock in Florida. The ship was also refused permission to dock in Cuba and Canada. Some of them were allowed entry to European countries but many returned to Germany and their deaths in the Holocaust. As Israel is now recognised as their home maybe the US owes them a debt.

Far simpler Seanw to see Israel and Russia as guilty parties who invade the lands of others. Very similar in method and response. Putin very similar to Bibi too. People don't like invaders and bullies especially those who target mainly women and children.

You can indeed support Palestine and Ukraine.

If the Iranian regime falls, Putin falls after.

If Israel falls, Ukraine and a lot more will fall after

But there are those on the Right saying much the same about Ukraine - i.e. that they don't want peace, should "negotiate" with Putler, and should give up land that's rightfully Russian. Propaganda shills for Moscow also make broad accusations against Ukraine that it's full of Nazis and that it was violating the rights of Russian speakers, had NATO biolabs and more nonsense. And of course this is nonsense because Moscow has made it clear it will settle for nothing other than the complete destruction and conquest of Ukraine.

I do not understand either the Left's, or the MAGA Right's position on this matter.

As far as I am concerned, both Israel and Ukraine are fighting the same war against the same enemy, just on different fronts. And I don't give a fiddlers curse what either of them have to do to make their mortal enemies go away. If either - or both - decide they have to take the proverbial gloves off, so be it.

There is no equivalency between Israel and Ukraine. Ukraine are defending themselves against a neighbouring country led by a war criminal that is invading them and committing attrocities.

Israel is a country led by a war criminal that is invading neighbouring countries and committing atrocities on a scale that far surpasses the absolute worst of what Russia has done.

This red herring about a population growing meaning genocide can't be taking place has been debunked many times. Yet here you are repeating the same fallacy again.

Yet more insincerity from you, you know perfectly well the parallel that I am drawing- you condemn Russian war crimes but go out of your way to outright deny or excuse Israeli war crimes. Also Russia and Israel are both occupiers. You are against one occupier but firmly support the other occupier. Your hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance is astounding.

I don't think it has anything to do with that Tayto, TBH. It's more to do with America's interests in the Middle East in a possible future scenario involving direct US activity than something that happened over 80 years ago. They want the Jews to be their hard man over there and are willing to look the other way when they get up to appalling and wanton murder, spoliation, colonisation of their neighbours.

The US, as a political entity, doesn't have a conscience. It operates on a purely practical & self motivated level rather than a conscientious one. Otherwise it wouldn't have lent support to some of the most vile people and regimes as it has.

Funnily enough, Israel has just attacked a Russian air base in Syria.

Probably because it realised that there are other countries in the world it hasn’t tried to fight yet.

"Jewish hegemony" … what the heck is this supposed to mean???