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⚠️ Potential flooding Saturday 05-10-24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭phormium


    Not looking good for Dingle Food Festival tomorrow 🙄 Do I want to traipse around the food stalls in the rain or not is the burning question?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,557 ✭✭✭✭Esel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    This one is really interesting - its only 24hrs away and still there is basically no idea about exactly where its going to end up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,373 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    Do we know the timing of that yet? Did I see someone say 6pm for the deluge to hit south coast (im specifically asking for Kinsale area) I see the model spread and understand this maybe impossible to answer and very much a nowcast situation.

    Very interested in the educated opinions on here though!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    Not an educated opinion but rainfall model of n the UK met currently showing the heaviest to hit kinsale between 2 and 6 pm tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    Thank you!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,115 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    From Met Eireann :

    Meteorologist's Commentary

    UPDATE ON THE HEAVY RAINFALL EVENT FORECAST FOR the weekend of 5th-6th OCTOBER  

    The following information is valid at 15:30, Friday 4th October 2024 until further updates. 

    The meteorological situation described yesterday (below) is still valid, with a band of rain expected to trail over the country from Friday night (4th October) through to Saturday night (5th October), with the heaviest and most persistent rain forecast over the southwest and west of the country, particularly over counties Kerry and Cork. 

    The low pressure system will be slow moving and updates from our models this morning have led to a revision of the warnings issued yesterday. The orange rainfall warnings for Kerry and Cork have been extended for an additional hour to midnight on Saturday (valid from 00:00 Saturday 5th to 00:00 Sunday 6th). Waterford has also been elevated to an orange rainfall warning, valid from 12:00 Saturday to 00:00 Sunday. This is due to a combination of factors: heavy rainfall in mountainous regions, soil conditions which have not recovered from last weekend’s rainfall and the heaviest of the rain coinciding with high tide. All this coupled with fresh to strong onshore winds which will exacerbate river levels.    

    Figure 1 – Rainfall warnings issued by Met Éireann for Saturday 5th October (valid at time of writing on Friday 4th October)

    Accumulations of 30-50 mm over 24h are likely in the counties under yellow warning, however rainfall amounts may be higher on windward slopes of the mountains in west Galway and west Mayo. Parts of Cork, Kerry and Waterford will see totals of 50-70 mm over a 24h period, but similarly, higher accumulations can be expected in mountainous regions of west Kerry and west Cork.

    Figure 2 –24 Hour Precipitation Ensemble Forecast Probability Maps, available to the public here ( 24 Hour Precipitation – Met Éireann – The Irish Meteorological Service). The image shows the probability of rainfall accumulations over certain thresholds for this Saturday 5th October to Sunday 6th October.

    In view of this, updates to potential impacts expected are:

    • River flooding: Soils are saturated in some places and river levels are currently low but will respond notably to the amount of rain, with out of bank flooding expected in places. Smaller rivers, especially those prone to flash flooding in urban and upland areas, may rise quickly on Saturday and into Sunday. Rivers in the south and west, particularly in the mountainous areas of Kerry, West Cork and Limerick, as well as Galway and Mayo could be affected. Given the volume of rainfall forecast throughout the weekend, levels will potentially rise in the headwaters of larger rivers including the Lee, Munster Blackwater and Bandon. It’s important to note that rivers are likely to continue to respond and rise over the weekend and into next week with further rain expected.

     

    • Coastal flooding: We are in a period of Spring tides, although not a particularly high Spring tide. Onshore winds Saturday evening on the south coast may coincide with high tide (approx. 18:00-20:00), exacerbating rising river levels in estuarine areas, resulting in flooding. Strong onshore winds may lead to wave overtopping in exposed coastal areas.

     

    • Dangerous travelling conditions due to low visibility, surface water and potentially flooding.

     

    • Travel disruptions.

    Please keep in touch with Met Éireann’s social media channels, www.met.ie and the Met Éireann app to stay up to date with the forecast and any updates to the warnings.

    The timing and location of weather can significantly affect its impact. It’s important to note that in any individual weather event, not every location within a warning area may experience the same degree of weather or impacts.

    When severe weather is expected, weather and impacts at lower levels are also likely to be experienced. The type and degree of impacts can be strongly affected by previous weather conditions. Met Éireann takes into consideration the forecasted conditions and thresholds, as well as previous weather conditions, that may increase the level of impact expected for particular areas when issuing a warning.

    WHAT SHOULD YOU DO PRIOR TO AND DURING EXTREME WEATHER? PUBLIC SAFETY INFORMATION AND MESSAGES FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAKEHOLDERS

    • Stay up-to date with the forecast and the warnings for your county on met.ie, the Met Éireann app or Met Éireann socials (@meteireann).
    • Check in with your local authority and emergency management stakeholders (Irish Coast Guards, Gardaí, etc) through their website and social channels to see how your area will be/is affected.
    • Ensure your mobile is phone is fully charged to enable communication in advance of the event and keep local emergency numbers in your phone.
    • Keep a small amount of food, extra medical and water supplies in case it’s dangerous to step out of the home.
    • “Be Winter Ready”: Follow recommendations before, during and after the event on ie – Be Winter Ready (www.gov.ie)
    • Advance planning for flooding: You can consult the OPW flood maps, which show areas that may be at risk of flooding, based on historical data (see www.floodinfo.ie).
    • Stay away from coastal areas during the period. Remember the advice from the Irish Coast Guard: “Stay Back, Stay High, Stay Dry”.
    • Don’t try to walk, cycle or drive through flooded areas, the depth of the water can be deceiving.
    • Remember: As little as 150mm of fast-flowing water can knock you off your feet and 300mm of fast-flowing water can move most cars off the road.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,115 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    ECM threw a spanner in the works tonight keeping a lot of the weather off the Western coasts, a big correction or an outlier ?…. the HARMONIE 12Z a bit similar but HARMONIE DMI 15Z very much overland where it has been showing it all along with added rainfall off the coast.

    Some of the latest model output below.

    Met Eireann have a bit of a dilemma maybe for Kerry and West Cork, a lot of mountainous areas in mid and South Kerry and West Cork most probably in Red warning level rainfall accumulations but parts of N and E Kerry and North Cork are not .Going to be some water pouring into the Lakes of Killarney and surrounding areas and around Carragh Lake and all along south Kerry from Caherciveen over to Kenmare and the Beara Peninsula and Bantry etc. Lucky that the rivers are so low atm but even still could fill up very quickly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,985 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    3.9 tide in waterford, higher than last time and we've had drizzle and rain on and off all day. The mountains may catch it again in west waterford and cause problems for the rivers again. One to watch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,219 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Certainly some weather off the west coast . Several aircraft deviating around some high cloud tops. Directly west of Shannon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Strong northern lights (although not as strong as may) possible the next few nights but of course clouds will ruin it for us but in any clear breaks even for a few minutes ya may catch them 😉



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Pissing rain all evening in Cork City. That heavy drizzle that gets you soaked, but got stronger over time. Dry now, but this rain wasn't forecast to start until midnight.

    Can't blame the forecasters though, weather prediction tech has its limits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,689 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Went for a long walk there with the dog. Dry and very mild. I saw a few sheets of lightning to the far west.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    It's been odd here in Limerick, was at 17c this afternoon but crept up to 20c after dark. As for the forecast l 've been wondering if Met Eireann have let the AI take over the graphics and forecast on their site - if it says less than 5% chance of rain its going to piss down. If it's higher, check outside and see for yourself. It's gone awful in the last few months.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,670 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    If it's anything like last Sunday where they predicted heavy rain all day and it never happened, I'd say things will be fine around here tomorrow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,841 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I am always intrigued by the way the weather knows where the county boundaries are!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,115 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Nice Sat Pic from EUMETSAT of the weather approaching up along the West and later the long trailing front from the South and Kirk showing up well.

    Cloud top temps giving an indication of convection and possible thunderstorm formation although they don't always form.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Well any boundary you set really, is going to have some within the boundary who don't experience weather warranting a warning, and some outside the boundary may well experience that weather.

    This has been done to the death though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    IIt's another nudge West by the 18z gfs. At this rate the whole country will be a miss apart from Western extremities



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    AAnd kirk is moving so far South over the last 24hrs it's entirely off the radar now I think



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,115 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    GFS has shifted a lot of the rain offshore also like the earlier ECM 12Z and now showing Kerry in Red warning territory I would imagine. Showing most of the rain falling in 9-11 hrs. Will see what the Hi Res models show as they come out soon. Would think going by the majority of the models that West Galway is very close to being be in Orange warning territory .



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,115 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    HARMONIE DMI 18Z an increase for parts of Kerry like the dingle Peninsula ( like the GFS ) and W Galway and W mayo. It too is showing a shift off shore of a lot of the rainfall leaving much of the country with little rain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,199 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Well theyv made an absolute pigs ear of this prediction going by the latest. Imagine some people have cancelled plans for the weekend due to the forecast but much of the country will be pretty dry for a lot of tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,777 ✭✭✭squonk


    Ah come on. Outside of mid western, se and southern countries there was no reason for anyone to cancel plans. Any changes have only happened in the last run. the rain is much further west. Big deal. The same places get piled with rain tomorrow. It’s better to pre-emptively warn sonething is coming even if it doesn’t materialise. It’s better to be pissed off after a lost day than maybe in hospital or worse because a day turned out worse than forecast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Had the same thoughts . Not a hope. I just don't understand why they have it so late in the year. Same story every year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    WIth that southerly airflow temperatures are very mild 16c in parts of the south West, at least it saves on heating a little ,even notice the difference between northern France and the UK



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    So where is the thunder storms and lightning strikes that were forecast after the news for South , West and North West coasts tonight

    Post edited by Storm 10 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭scrotist


    Beautiful evening here in Cork. Balmy and only a slight bit of misty drizzle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭scrotist


    I cancelled a family trip.

    Is this storm going to happen or not?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,199 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Tomorrow will be wet in the West and South a dull Saturday elsewhere with biteens of rain. Only very wet in the far Southwest and Western fringes of Galway and Mayo.



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