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Aldi Creepy self service cameras at checkout

  • 09-10-2024 11:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1


    Anyone notice the new Creepy intimidating cameras in Aldi Kings meadow cork road, they are huge self facing cameras at the serve yourself they are a few iches from your face, surely a data protection privacy breach.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,987 ✭✭✭beachhead


    Have they got warning signs to say you are being recorded,at least? If,not challenge them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You don't think you're being recorded by dozens of cameras already in every single shop you go into?

    Its only a GDPR breach if they retain the videos for longer than they need for the purpose of verifying you paid for all your items, or if that video is used for any other purpose other than for why it was collected



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,889 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    The camera is an in-animate object, all the other stuff is over there with you.

    What to you see when you look in th mirror: creepy, intimidation

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    GDPR must be the most misunderstood thing of the 21st century.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,238 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Along with the purpose of the Boards.ie feedback forum and Help Desk…



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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,916 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    wow. OP can you explain why you think its a data protection issue?

    Its a bit of a jump to go straight there.

    The issue of theft is made worse with self service - and one of the factors is below

    "Research indicates that individuals are more likely to engage in unethical behavior when they believe they are not being observed, suggesting that self-checkout systems might inadvertently encourage theft by offering a sense of invisibility. "

    Source: https://blog.agilenceinc.com/psychology-of-self-checkout-theft

    So you can see why overt cameras would be used to lower losses in a store. if you are uncomfortable with overt surveillance you can vote with your feet, or even write to the store and let them know.

    But any assumption that your not being recorded in other stores is silly, a fact mentioned by an earlier poster. Its less overt. There is a very good reason the overt recording is used for self service tills, and you have not yet put forward a reasonable reason why it should not be used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭SteM


    I see Tescos in Bancroft have them too. Lidl have mirrors in place there but I'd always assumed there was a camera behind the mirror.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,232 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Can we not just have one megathread for all the conspiracy loopies who constantly wrongly think that their GDPR rights are being infringed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    You could just choose to not open the threads you have no interest in.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,714 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    M&S have them at their self service tills too. As has the Aldi I go to.
    There's some kind of reminder at the M&S ones like 'our cameras are always on' or something. Never cost me a thought, tbh. I presume they are to deter shoplifting. 🤷‍♀️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    Jesus some people really need to go learn about GDPR and stop name dropping it without understanding what it is.

    There is no data protection breach by your image being recorded in a supermarket, you don't have your personal information tattooed across your forehead. And stores are within their rights to have such cameras in place, especially when it comes to stock protection at self service from those who might be less than honest when scanning their own shopping.

    Go somewhere else if you don't like it and you can pretend the cameras you don't see don't exist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    They put those self service check outs in my nearest Aldi too but after using one once I now just flat refuse to use one again.

    I'd honestly be afraid I didn't scan something right, it happened a couple of times when I tried it the first time and the manager was on hand to try and "train" me how to use it. I told him straight up finish the rest of the scanning for me and I'm never again using one.

    Last time I was in there there was no one on any of the 5 or 6 tills and 1 staff member in the self service area, I just asked which conveyor belt do I load my shopping on and she told me and radioed for a till operator to come and serve me.

    I have no intention of doing someone else's job when I go shopping and when the till was opened other people queued up behind me so thankfully I'm not alone.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    for me one of the reasons i liked & shopped at aldi and lidl was the fact they would open a new till if they saw a long line of customers. While in dunnes/tesco the employees could continue their chat with mates & stacking shelves etc while i waited. IE the customer was not their priority.

    the self service tills change that dynamic. I agree with the last poster that it is a very valid point. if i have a couple of items in a basket self service work well, maybe even better as there are many open tills. But if i have a larger quantity of messages self service becomes a chore for me, and a labour/cost saving for the shop at my expense.

    Some stores in UK are removing self service areas, they don't or shouldn't replace manned checkouts. At night my local Tesco is 100% self service and it makes me think twice about dropping around for anything non urgent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 TerrieBootson


    It's a funny one. Any actual thieves won't be bothered, nothing happens to them anyway



  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    I haven't seen them too much here but they seem common enough at self checkouts in the UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Re

    I have no intention of doing someone else's job when I go shopping

    You have already done someone else job when you picked the goods from the shelf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭cbreeze


    Noticed the new self serve checkouts in Penneys recently. You have to scan your receipt at the area exit so you can open the barrier. They, like many other retailers are cutting down on staff. People who don't have cards can still use cash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne


    How is it someone else's job to take YOUR shopping from the shelves?

    You really do have some mad beliefs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭65535


    I notice that some Aldi stores at some times have a security guard, previously they did not - same with Lidl but I think in Lidl the security guard is permanent.

    In Tesco - all stores - they are now ensuring that you can not go out via the 'in route' and you have to pass through a till or self scan till before you leave.

    They are putting security tags now on cuts of meat and anything that is easily 'lifted'.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    I was in the pound shop in Stillorgan SC a few weeks ago. The self-service machines were switched off and there was a small queue for the single check-out operator. When the queue got longer, a security guy appeared, he switched on the three or four self-service machines and stood like a sentry behind us as we scanned our purchases.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,935 ✭✭✭donegal_man


    I thoroughly detest self service check outs. Another cost cutting exercise and removal of human interaction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    Are you aware Lidl have camera's at their manned check-outs to check that the trolley is empty. There's signage to alert you about the camera. Have to say it doesn't bother me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    Once upon a time, it WAS somebody else's job to take YOUR shopping from the shelves.

    First supermarket in my local town opened 50 years ago this year. It closed maybe 20 years ago, but that's neither here nor there for the purposes of this particular post..

    Prior to the supermarket opening, whenever you went grocery shopping in any shop in the town, you simply handed in your shopping list to somebody at the front counter, and they went and got all the items for you. You never got any further than the front counter yourself.

    My mother recalls how when the supermarket first opened, some people thought it incredibly handy to now be able to just go and look after yourself. However, others gave out about it: "Why do I now have to go and do their job? And now they won't need as many staff on the counter, so that's not good either."

    Essentially, the same arguments that people use now about self-service checkouts.

    More recently - but still probably 30 years ago - supermarkets generally had a second staff member at each till, to bag the items that people were buying. Then they started to do away with that, and again, people thought: "What? So now I have to do this myself every time?"

    The fact that I have to explain this to you shows how over time, the new and "bad" processes become accepted and thought of as normal. It might - just might - be the case in another few decades that self-service will have become so ubiquitous that young people then will be asked "would you believe there was a time when somebody used to be employed to do the scanning for you?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭swoofer


    in a few decades I expect drone delivery to front door and take away the empties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    ATMs are the banks version of self service and have been around for decades. How many people complain about self service in shops yet use the ATM even when the bank is open where a human will serve you. I know plenty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne


    Ye but that was back during the 'Open All Hours' era of shopping, we don't live in 1970's anymore. I'd much rather not give someone a list and have them pick out my shopping for me. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they're "bad" processes.

    It is moving away from having someone scanning the items for you with self service checkouts, scan as you shop in Tesco and Dunnes and I and many others much prefer this system.

    I can now pop into Aldi for one or 2 things and don't have to get in a queue of people who have trolley's full.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,033 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    Was in an amazing shop in Vilnius last year, no self scanning, just used sensors, cameras, etc. to 'see' what you were picking up, then as you walked to the exit, there was your total on a screen, one tap, gone. Couldn't even imagine the level of tech to make it happen. Fascinating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,033 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    … double post

    Post edited by DoctorEdgeWild on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭SVI40


    Thank Christ it's not just me who thinks the same!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,696 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    We will soon be in the era of you just lifting your groceries, bagging them as you go and paying at the end. It's more or less already happening in my local Sainsbury's. They don't want you queuing for ages, so it makes sense to scan as you shop and have one simple payment at the end.

    There's even already places in the world where you just lift whatever you want off the shelves and leave, and you are charged. Cameras follow you all the time and they know what you have taken. I was chatting to someone who was at a sports event in the US and this system was in place. You basically headed to the shops shelves, grabbed a Coke or whatever, and left.

    In a decade I don't think there will be standing in line to pay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    You're explaining nothing only the fact that you are old and have a good memory which is not in the least relevant to the post you quoted.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Your local Sainsbury's?

    Who are they?

    I live in Ireland, one of my local pubs doesn't even have a cash register and if any famous musicians are playing anywhere within a 20-30 mile distance you'll often find them in there before or after the gig having a few pints and a sing song with the locals.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,696 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Live in Ireland myself, the North has Sainsbury's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Space Dog


    Tech or humans?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/10/amazon-ai-cashier-less-shops-humans-technology



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,050 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Security tags on large e6 Comfort laundry bottles in Dealz 😯



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    I always assumed self-service checkouts were meant for those with a small number of items,, who didnt want to wait behind someone with a full large trolley. The bagging area would not be big enough for a full large trolley shop?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    We're worlds apart if you think in a decade queues will be a thing of the past.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,696 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Might take more than a decade, but the future are shops like that one a poster mentioned in Vilinius. Lift and go, pay on way out.

    They're coming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Some American stores have cameras at all checkout s so if you move an item and don't scan it an alarm go,s off .if you go inside a shop they have a right to record you as long as it's only used for security purposes



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne


    99% of the time there's still a checkout open with a person at it for trolleys, if there isn't (usually off peak) they'll get someone over to one pretty quickly. Very few times I've seen people with even the shallow trolleys at self service check outs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭cms88


    Self service check outs taking jobs is a myth. I know over a supermarket who have over 20 extra staff since getting self service check outs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭SVI40


    Not at my local Tesco, most of the time it's only self check out. It's why I seldom go there, except for emergencies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    That's as it should be really. I haven't seen the self-service check outs in Aldi myself.

    Alas, I haven't been near an Aldi since they got rid of click and collect. 😥



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    We are being recorded in many retail businesses these days.

    It's done to reduce the amount of stock being stolen.

    The cost of stolen stock is added to the prices paid by those of us who are honest and pay our way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne


    Sorry I meant to say at Aldi and Lidl in ROI, don't shop in Tesco at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    I'd be fairly confident that there were other reasons that necessitated the increase in staff numbers.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne


    They've only started introducing them this year in some stores, they're brilliant to have, in and out in 2 mins if you just need a couple of things instead of standing behind a trolley hoping they'll let you go ahead of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭A350-900


    They installed self checkouts in my local Lidl and hardly anyone uses them. People still queue to use a manned checkout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,724 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Is that because of cameras? 🙄

    OP, every supermarket has security camera throughout the store. What's any different with Aldi having them at the checkout?



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