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THey opened the bidding at 5k and only 3 bidders. How could you make money buying at that money?

Thats the mistake many make Anto. You will.often buy those JEX 350-370 kgs for 500-550 euro.

Too many carry them too long. Get them to 570 kgs they will hang approx 270kgs@4.8/kg they will make 1300 euro. Admittedly they will need ration for 10 weeks and that is the mistake lads make feed them for 8-10 weeks it's costs about 50-60 euro.

I have killed a good few FRX over the years @ 300kgs ish DW you will often buy that type of bullock for sub or about 600 euro. At 300 kgs under 30 months they can hit 1500 euro if you can get the FS on them sub 30 months.

Maize/barley/hulls with mins&vit's added 3kgs/head about 200kgs in 10 weeks

I sold a bunch of them two weeks ago, roughly same weight, and got €2.1/kg which I thought was fair enough.

From what I've seen, anything from 2.5/kg to 3/kg.

they thing they’re going to be codded in the mart and everyone will see.
I’ve told lads I draw for, you can bring them home from the mart and go to the factory. You can’t the other way around.

That's what I was seeing as well hard to justify paying that for them tbh when plainer type ch and lim heifers can be picked up for 3-3.20 a kg from what I have seen

heavy bullocks making good money in ballinakill today.

Factory IMO

can’t do a link.

I’d like to know that too.

The only way lads get shafted in a factory is when they don’t understand how to calculate their killout percentages, but these same lads will still get shafted in the mart as they still have the same lack of knowledge.

I kill in a couple of different factories and I know to within €10-€15 a head what a load of cattle will average out at when they’re leaving here for the factory because I’ll have them weighed before they leave and I’ll know by looking at them what they’ll grade. You haven’t a clue what they’ll get in the mart until they come into the ring and 95% of the time it’s less than you’ll get in the factory.

Can you show me a few examples of mart weights and sale prices that show this? Or do you mind me asking what way your calculating the killout weight based on mart weight?

I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but it’s very rare for it to happen.

I know, it’s hard to understand what some lads do be thinking.

As i always say, a farmers only friend is his pocket.

Fully agree about bringing unfit cattle to the factory but the lads that do that are the lads that don’t have either the knowledge or the experience to know by looking at their stock that they’re fit to kill. These are the same lads then that’ll tell you the factories are screwing them when really it’s their own inexperience that’s screwing them.

I know plenty of the lads that are buying around the ring in the local marts here and bar the 1 or 2 known factory men they’re all buying for themselves and turning a tidy few pound on plenty of what they buy due to the lads that don’t understand the value of their cattle. And to top it all off they’re not even using their own money. A lot of them lads have a months credit in the marts and they’re buying stock, killing them, making money on them and cashing the factory cheque long before they ever even pay the mart for the animal. So they’re making money off the marts credit, not from their own investment.

Someone put up a screenshot of Ballinakill mart a few posts back. I know nothing about Ballinakill mart so I don’t know how to calculate killouts for that mart but I can tell you if them prices were paid in Birr mart for them weights of bullocks and assuming they were factory fit and you average them as R+ grades, which should be safe assumptions given their weights, then they made anything from €50-€190 less than their factory value.

I kill more O’s than I do U’s and i agree fully with you. Especially at times when there are flat prices available, it’s lunacy what lads sell factory fit hex or aax for in the mart and go home thinking they got on great and the next man making €100-€200 a head on them overnight.

I’m no expert and I’ll never claim to be one but all I’m going on is what’s in black and white in front of me and that’s the information the weighing scales gives me. And the only reason I have that information is because I made all the mistakes before where I didn’t know the exact weights or killout percentages from different factories and I got screwed in both marts and factories, I learned by making the mistakes.

Nobody here has to take my word for anything I’m saying but it’s very easy to verify what I’m saying for anyone on their own farms. Either buy or hire a scales and weigh your stock the day before they leave the farm, no matter whether it’s the mart or the factory they’re going to, and you’ll get your own info and figures to work with then.

Every mart is slightly different depending on loading to selling times etc. and every factory is slightly different too. You could sell heifers in Birr mart with only a 2 or 3% weight loss and heavy bullocks at this time of year can be up to 8% losses. That’s because you can drop in a heifer at 12 and she’ll be sold by 1 but there’s bullocks there at 8 in the morning that won’t be sold until 4 or 5 in the evening when the sales are big.

Unfortunately it’s the complete opposite scenario that’s happening. They don’t increase the base price because they don’t have to when they can buy them at €100 a head less in the marts. Keep the factory fit cattle at home and then the prices will rise to entice them out, sell them cheap in the marts and we all lose out.

Do you mind me asking what mart do you go to and if you’re weighing cattle what weight losses do you see from yard to mart?

What would dairy x Angus heifers that weighed 600kg in mart make in the factory at a base price of 5 for heifers. Goodish types of cattle.