Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

My biggest concern of Harris from the outset, was how she’d come across to the voters. People here have been way to reliant on “but Trump is bad evil blah blah blah” - to the degree of inducing nausea at this point .

Harris has done a hell of a lot better than I would have given her credit for- but obviously, what we’ve learned, is that even up against a person like Trump with all of his “baggage”, you can’t rely solely on that to reach the Whitehouse- you have to individually earn that right yourself.
Hillary made that mistake in 2016- yes the FBI investigation didn’t help her- but she’s admitted since that she didn’t understand what the electorate wanted in 2016 - and potentially she was the wrong kind of candidate for that period. (See quote below)

She says she ran a “traditional campaign of well thought out policies” whilst Trump was stoking anger- were essentially back in 2016 again- but arguably America is an even angrier place than it was 8 years ago.

Given the race is so close, unfortunately the deciding voters are probably asking the question “Do I like Harris?” - and many are possibly saying “no I don’t”. This race is so close that it doesn’t matter if you’ve ticked all the boxes on policy, winning debates, going to Fox News for an interview, visited swing states often - it’s so bloody close, that it could be down to likability at this stage - very hard for Harris to influence that in such a short space of time

“Clinton has repeatedly said she didn't think she would lose when she settled into her hotel suite on Election Night. But after extensive reflection -- which she called "excruciating" -- she realized that she may have been the wrong kind of candidate for an electorate that wanted anger and outrage.

"Still, in terms of fighting the previous war, I think it's fair to say that I didn't realize how quickly the ground was shifting under all our feet," Clinton writes. "I was running a traditional presidential campaign with carefully thought-out policies and painstakingly built coalitions, while Trump was running a reality TV show that expertly and relentlessly stoked Americans' anger and resentment."

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/12/politics/hillary-clinton-what-happened-mistakes

I’ll take your word for it that Trump is leading the betting - but I think the Democrats biggest fear was that voters would become complacent if they thought Harris was a shoe-in and would just stay away from the polling booths on the day- the closer this election is, the better it is for the Democrats- they need a sense of urgency to get a traditionally lazy voter ship out to the polls on the day - I’m glad to see Harris has learned the lessons of the 2016 election - I don’t believe she could have done any more as a candidate - but as a person, likability was always going to be her weakest point - I can see why some voters just don’t “like” her - I’ve grown to respect her- I’m not sure I “like” her though - potentially many key voters are of similar mind.

Was my thinking too. It has worked for him so far.(I prefer Mr Golden Stools ,though -or Mr Golden Shower, Sir as he may have been addressed in Moscow )

But it could just be psychological warfare(if this is true).If KH is giving interviews and is at all nervous then this kind of stuff could accentuate that (She might not have called out Bret Baier so confidently ,or at all)

Yes of course but Biden, as he had the delegates and could have just stubbornly continued, ultimately put the country first.

Now. Compare that to the GOP which at every turn has given in to Trump because not doing so would cost them votes.

As usual it's projection onto the Dems based on nothing more that what drives Trump and the GOP

Fundraising doesn't always lead to success, if it did HRC would have won.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-clinton-campaign-fundraising-totals-232400

Trump has opted out of yet another interview - his team has said he is 'exhausted' (first couple of minutes of the video). How long before he recovers enough to take up the campaign again? Of course he is exhausted, he is 78 and unfit. I am the same age and can sympathise, but not that much, I am not campaigning to be president, not even of the local ICA!

So if he is not unfit and is constantly on the go, how come he is exhausted and has cancelled half a dozen events in the past few days?

I guess he said for 78. Which infers he believes he's actually too old to be president.. :)

Trump is doing it all himself, we are just spectators to his collapse.

What's your take on him cancelling events?

Why's he doing it?

The optics of refusing to release his medical records is just the icing on the cake. 100% confirmation that he has a serious problem.

This is guaranteed to be the primary point of discussion for the last two weeks.

He's 78, probably has some health conditions, nothing life threatening or serious enough for him to not be president. He's looking a lot healthier than Bill Clinton and they're the same age.

I very much doubt it's going to be the primary point of discussion for the last 2 weeks. Dems in full panic mode if that's the game plan.

It already is the main talking point and it won't go away till he releases his medical records. Since he won't it will continue to look centre stage.

As they say, if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about from releasing them.

definitely doesn’t sound healthier

It's coming from Kamala and will go away it's only seen in certain echo chambers which will have little effect on the outcome at this stage, why doesn't she show us her McDonalds payslips.

The reek of desperation off her now is terrible optics and complete hypocrisy seen as she's denied Bidens mental health woes for so long.

Did she? Wow didn't realise that. I agree HRC was a terrible candidate and that KH is also a much more likeable person. On the flip side she is far weaker than HRC in interviews etc.

Every time Trump has a senior moment it right back in the news. He's having them every day. Its got nothing to do with Harris.

Watching CNN now and it's top of the news.

So the Dems engaging in weather control is plausible but you draw the line at questioning Trump's fitness when he sways for 40 minutes to music at a town hall and cancels loads of events in the final weeks of the campaign?

Man sways to music, god ye're getting desperate. What's next old man unable to run the golden mile.

For 30+ minutes. Instead of answering questions at his own rally. And despite his handlers asking him to answer more questions.

You've got a problem with him pausing from talking while emergency services helped out some people in the audience, is that correct? If he kept talking you'd be giving out about that as well or would you prefer he kept talking?

None at all, i've no questions about his mentality or his supporters.