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Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    This issue has been buried well and good before the election.


    See you in January….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,011 ✭✭✭enricoh


    I see some countries in Europe are now sending back Syrian refugees. Surely this family are most deserving of a plane ticket.

    I take it these are still in a council house, despite having 350k cash under the mattress. Maybe one of the legions of reporters investigating the 350k bike shed will shed some light on it- I won't hold my breath!



  • Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    Any party out there in the elections against Irelands refugee policy which rewards scammers and p1sses all over Paddy ?

    Really affecting housing supply now for Pad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭creeper1


    Irish national party, Irish freedom party and Ireland first.

    If those aren't for you there's the independent alliance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,739 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    It would make you wonder why the one with the mask doesn't want to show his face.

    A decision was reached that he had no right to be here and instead of shipping him out on the first available fight he pulls this stunt.

    Will be interesting to see how this plays out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    Mod Edit: Warning Applied for breach of forum charter. One day ban applied also

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭monseiur


    Interesting to note that Laois/Offaly TD Carol Nolan recently raised questions in the Dail in relation to ''refugees'' including from Ukraine who are sub letting their apartments (for profit of course) which are paid for by us the taxpayer….you just could not make it up. We are paying for the same apartment twice….talk of being pissed on not one but twice ! The whole system is totally out of control thanks to the deluded excuse for a minister Roderic gormless O Gorman. The sooner he and his party are kicked out of government the better.



  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    In all fairness America and Australia are different to Europe in terms of ethic identity. They were sparsely populated before immigration to those continents. What would you consider an acceptable percentage of immigrants to local ethic groups? Care to put a % on it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,976 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    They were sparsely populated before immigration to those continents

    How is that relevant to your stated ratio?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    Are you unwilling to give your preferred ratio?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,976 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    You only seem to want to apply your ratio when the "ethnic origin" of a host country is white.

    Why is that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Cultures aren’t delicate little bubbles; they’re dynamic, evolving, and enriched by diversity. History has shown that Irish culture, like many others, has absorbed and adapted countless influences without losing its essence. And the claim that countries in the Islamic world or Africa “keep their ethnic integrity” is just a lazy, false equivalence. Many of these nations are incredibly diverse and face their own immigration challenges. The idea that European countries need to "suck it up" suggests immigration is some terrible burden, rather than the opportunity for cultural and economic growth that it truly is. If anything threatens culture, it’s the insistence on keeping it in a stagnant, rigid box.



  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    Well at the moment it is a terrible burden to the Irish taxpayer, would you not agree?



  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    The same would apply to nations that are traditionally black or Asian



  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    The same ratio would apply to countries that are traditionally black, middle eastern or Asian



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  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    Mod Edit: Warning issued, ban increased to three days

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Most of the children of Muslim families would be learning Irish in schools all the way to leaving cert level at this point. You'd be surprised how many of the people that are thought of as immigrants by some were probably born here and took Irish all the way through the school system. Probably all spent time in gaeltachts during school trips. Ceiles and the likes. Integration also doesn’t mean abandoning one’s own cultural identity; it means participating in and contributing to the broader society, which many Muslim immigrants do in various ways. I'm guessing you don't know many. Suggesting that integration should be measured by whether someone plays traditional Irish music or takes part in Irish dance is a laughably narrow view of what it means to be part of a society. If someone is born and raised in Ireland, speaks the language, and embraces the culture, then, quite frankly, in my book they’re as Irish as anyone else. Clinging to some outdated notion of "pure" Irishness doesn’t make you a guardian of culture; it just makes you resistant to reality, an old relic that will die off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,976 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    We have several at our club, all age levels.

    Did you time travel from the 70s to write that post?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Course you do. There’s always ‘several’ in the homespun narratives propagated around here.

    Let me guess. They go for a feed of pints in the definitely non-fictional club after training!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,976 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


     They go for a feed of pints in the definitely non-fictional club after training!

    The majority I would be involved with are children, also we don't have a pub. So no.

    I take it you wouldn't be a GAA fan with yet anyone lazy stereotype.

    But but but our culture.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    I’ll do you better than that. I played hurling to a decent level myself and am also involved in kids’ coaching across two sports, which is why I’m pretty confident you’re peddling rubbish.

    But, but, but, try harder next time Boggles..



  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Phat Cat


    You can tell that there's an election around the corner. The big question is will these deportations be enforced or will they be left to their own devices and be expected to deport themselves?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,976 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    These deportations wont be enforced because our woke government havent the balls to do it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Floppybits




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Got any gay muslims ?

    Mod Edit: Warning Issued and one day forum ban also applied

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    I suppose if you're a party of liers like FG are, the best time to release some very questionable stats is a holiday Monday when there are fa politicians knocking about to comment on it, no radio shows that may question it (some chance there) and there's the possibility that something else will happen in the news cycle before the radio CAs programmes kick in on the Tuesday

    Remember about 10/12 days before the local/EU elections, there was a report on RTE that claimed "50 people without visas detected coming from the UK in last week" (and fecked back to Belfast and Holyhead) which was also very dubious - And incredibly enough that report was released on Sunday May the 26th - Spot the pattern?

    Having said that, Peadar Tóibín did point out that today's stats were rubbish



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Damien360


    The US election will be front and centre on Irish news for the next few weeks. Perfect time to release nonsense statistics about deportations and hope nobody notices. Quoting the percentage change and conveniently forgetting the actual numbers will be par for the course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,835 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    In the same period there have been 98 enforced deportations which is an increase of 165% compared to this point in 2023.

    There's a serious problem with disinformation in the media these days.

    The only number that matters are enforced deportations, and that number is miniscule.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Expect plenty of water muddying and trying to frame any resistance to the current policies as being Pro Trump or “What Trump would do” etc facile nonsense



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    There is going to be a lot of this in the lead up to the election. Saying there has been 165% increase in enforced deportations , sounds fantastic and makes McEntee and the government out to be in though on this but then you look at he numbers behind that figure and find out that they have gone from 37 enforced deportations to 98. Also are these people that have enforced deportations actually deported? It's easy to send out these "enforced Deportation" letters and then say "look we have increased enforced deportations" but no one is actually leaving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    There’s a video of an Irish woman being attacked, a man who rescued her recorded the incident for obvious reasons of proof and now woke leftists are saying it was staged. It’s all ‘believe her’ until it doesn’t suit their narrative. The screams coming from the woman are instantly recognisable to any woman who has ever been attacked and the total fear that you feel

    If it wasn’t recorded they’d say it didn’t happen. When it is recorded they say it’s staged



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Hungry Burger


    I wonder who will be the next patsy to be Minister of “Integration” once O’Gorman is ejected at the ballot box.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭creeper1


    I notice Yousef Palani's father is suing the state for taking 350 grand that was taken from his house.

    This lot was given refuge by Ireland.

    Seems Palani wasn't exactly grateful since he went on to murder two Irish men and attempt the murder of another.

    Isn't supposed to be the case that these are "vulnerable people" arriving with only the clothes on their back!

    What a bunch of cod's wollop!

    That 350k could be used to offset some of the cost of imprisonment of his son.

    The cheek of him suing us. Has he no shame?!

    https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/father-of-double-murderer-yousef-palani-sues-cab-over-350k-seized-from-family-home/a456558796.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    The nerve. That is one of the most horrific and brutal crimes Ireland has ever seen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,720 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Is this story relevant to something? Sorry but I don't know what it's referring to or why it's on this thread?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭tom23


    No shame indeed. Can’t wait to see the ‘others’ on here make some sort of defence of it. I see one of them is back already. but you are right how the hell does he have 350’k and be given state supports? Are we just retarded as a sovereign county or just ‘tim nice but dim’



  • Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    Impact on the housing market is now huge Paddy left living in the parents spare room.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Interesting to see one of our “patriots “ using a derogatory term.
    https://roscommonpeople.ie/throwing-a-bit-of-a-paddy-is-a-racially-offensive-slurthe-bbc-should-apologise/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,739 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    They were talking about it last night on The Tonight Show, the FGer was asked how many had actually left the country and she said it was too hard to find out those figures!

    Of course Claire Brock was pushing the idea that immigration wasn't a topic people were concerned about anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,011 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Is that all you got? Someone is offended by paddy? Bonus point for Patriot.

    Any comment on the unfortunate beheading incident in sligo? Or the fact a refugee family living in a council house provided by the state is suing to get 350k cash back?

    Accomodation crisis in sligo for students after student apartments jumped on the refugee money. Deport the palanis n free up a house for students who have something to contribute.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    I’m shocked that you think the incident in Sligo was unfortunate. I believe it was a horrific attack on innocent members of the LBGT community.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    There are many words that can be used to describe the Sligo attacks. Horrific and the victims were very unfortunate to have that happen to them. You’re really reaching to try to catch someone out by the words they use



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    I believe the words people use matter. I’m old fashioned that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    Are you really arguing that unfortunate is not a good word to describe what happened to the victims in Sligo? As I said there are many words that can be used to describe what happened. What you’re doing in trying to pick apart words is an extremely cheap trick



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  • Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭Will0483


    We are constantly told that there is no issue with Africans or African culture and they we should welcome as many as possible to Ireland with no reservations as that would be racist.

    At the same time, we are constantly told that each and every one of the 50 plus African countries are far too dangerous to deport any African that doesn't get Asylum. Both of these statements can't be true so which one is it?

    In reality, it's the people that make a Country unsafe for other people to inhabit. South Africa has one of the highest crime rates in the world so we should be very, very cautious about taking anybody from there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭Will0483


    The most mono-ethnic countries on Earth are in Asia and Africa where immigration is almost unknown. The only multi-ethnic countries with the exception of Dubai are majority White countries as developed countries are the least racist and attract more Economic migrants.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    That will be interesting. Who would want to take on such a toxic portfolio if RoG is not returned. Whoever it is, it would be great if they could give as much attention to other parts of their brief, ie, children, disability and youth which seem to have been downgraded as less important areas than integration and equality in the past few years. Or maybe that department needs to be split as it's not working well in any area now because there needs to be such a sustained focus on refugees and ipas.

    Post edited by mrslancaster on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    It's too big of a brief and should really be split. I believe they did offer to do this for O'Gorman but he as happy with the way things were.



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