New bus gates on Bachelors Walk and Aston Quay

Yeah me too. Very hard to get answers as to how we access the loading bays on the south quays, do we go through temple bar? Sounds like it's going to create rat runs and queues of traffic trying to access the alternative routes. I understand they are trying to encourage public transport but some vehicles need to be in the city centre

For example I deliver to Pearce street fire station then my next delivery is Diageo on Victoria quay

Exit is out onto abbey street

Google maps says to use Fleet Street and back onto the quays via Price's Lane or Bedford Row, however there is a no left turn from Westmoreland onto Fleet Street as per the new traffic plan, except for access and deliveries.

You could argue you are attending to business in there, maybe print off a delivery/collection docket, stop for 2 or 3 minutes and carry on on your way.

I agree, but they won't change it now so just have to work around the new rules

You can still head down the quays but go up to Dorset St and then back down.

Cheers. It was old route this morning. I'll check again now...

Edit. Just checked. Seems to be updated now.

You can

Perfect normally but I'll be bringing lots of stuff with me so not this time. (Not going to actual station)

I distinctly heard an interview with a woman from DCC in the Claire Byrne show a few weeks ago ( sorry, I cannot remember her name) saying coming up Burch Quay we can turn left into D’Olier Street then onto Westmorland St, left onto Fleet Street and a right turn down to the quays.

On the RTÉ news site today Samantha Libreiri states ( quote ):

There will be local access to Fleet Street in Temple Bar for car park access and deliveries the right turn between O’Connell Bridge and Eden Quay which is currently only for public transport and cyclists will be reinstated.

As I read this, a car can once again turn right from Bachelors Walk over O’Connell Street onto D’Olier Street.

So many mixed and contradictory messages. I can foresee gridlock tomorrow- hope I’m wrong though.

EDIT: Just watching the 6 o’clock news & RTÉ are interviewing Brendan O’Brien of DCC, and quote ‘ if You have business in the city centre, if you need to access car parks or if you need to do deliveries they will all still be allowed’.

What is this guy saying? If I have a delivery on any of the NB quays and then in Amiens Street ( which I often have ), I can drive over OCB onto Eden Quay? Or if I’m trying to get to Dame Street I can drive over OCB onto Aston Quay to head for Fishamble St.

Very mixed messages coming from the very people trying to implement this.

…a person looking to drive such a route could very well be moving a patient simply unable to use public transport, this is extremely common across ireland, hence why most are moved via private car

Exactly as if there's not a long list of potential uses. Even if you reserved it for artist studios, we'd be much better off

You cant just remove the car parks without damagimg the retail core and lets face it, the north inner city meeds all the help it can get at the moment.

A better solution is to stop tinkering with buses and build the underground.

I think the Fleet street , Temple Bar rat run will be difficult to enforce legally.

If that car park capacity is needed to support the businesses, it is needed.

I wouldnt want a situation where we have buses free flowing through the city centre with nobody on them, because there is nothing in the centre for people to come for.

Without businesses, we have no city centre.

Even the retailers and car park owners against these scheme have quoted surveys which show the majority of people who shop in the city centre do so by public transport so I'm not sure what your point is here.

There are definitely ways to rearrange the car park structures in North Dublin. They're not immutable

I still see private cars routinely using the College Green bus gate 15 years after it's implementation. Looking forward to seeing if a more zero tolerance approach is required in these new bus gates. Then again, if one can openly deal drugs in the busiest thoroughfares around town without fear of recrimination, driving through a bus gate will hardly be considered a misdemeanor...

Oh very good. The new restrictions on the quays would be an ideal pilot

AGS have nationally given up enforcing most Road Traffic Act offences (with an occasional exception for speeding) and pay even less attention to any regulations introduced by DCC. Why would anyone consult with them when they have no interest or capacity to do anything about it?

And let’s not even pretend that it’s just a capacity issue! The guards have an organisational blind spot for RTA offences, believing them to be victimless crimes and openly despising the Road Traffic unit when they attempt to enforce the law.

These changes are stupid. Why are they sending cars up O'Connell Street now. Oh we'll take cars out of Eden Quay and put them up O'Connell Street and make O'Connell Street a sh!tshow rob Peter to pay Paul basically. Why not stick to the original plan and turn the cars up Jervis Street.

These measures have nothing to do with road safety. They were introduced because the quays, Eden and Aston in particular, are a sh1t show for buses trying to transit through the city. Vastly more people travel by bus along the quays than by car, and it isn't even close.

These measures are an attempt to be able to increase frequency to high demand bus routes in the absence of a metro or other similar high capacity public transport lines. Eden Quay bus stop is the highest used **public transport** stop of any mode in the country! That the same buses had to share space with private cars was always a farce.

Lots of cars continuing straight ahead from Bachelors Walk. Some seemingly wanting to do a right hand turn to O'Connell Bridge based on their indicators which isn't going well for them.

Be curious what it's like in the evening now.

Cycled north quays this morning and crossed O'Connell Bridge around 0745. Very quiet - almost felt like a Bank Holiday. The absence of tracks was very noticeable. Buses were flying down the quays !

Didn't see any cars drive straight through and I did spot a Guard at the other side of the bridge presumably to catch cars who try drive through. Initial feedback is positive so far but it will need enforcement to ensure compliance.