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The Game Awards 2024

  • 18-11-2024 6:58pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,239 ✭✭✭


    Game of The Year
    ASTRO BOT (Team Asobi/SIE)
    Balatro (LocalThunk/Playstack)
    Black Myth: Wukong (Game Science)
    Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree (FromSoftware/Bandai Namco)
    Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (Square Enix)
    Metaphor: ReFantazio (Studio Zero/Atlus/Sega)

    Best Game Direction
    ASTRO BOT (Team Asobi/SIE)
    Balatro (LocalThunk/Playstack)
    Black Myth: Wukong (Game Science)
    Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree (FromSoftware/Bandai Namco)
    Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (Square Enix)
    Metaphor: ReFantazio (Studio Zero/Atlus/Sega)

    Best Narrative
    Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (Square Enix)
    Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth (Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio/Sega)
    Metaphor: ReFantanzio (Studio Zero/Atlus/Sega)
    Senua's Saga: Hellblade II (Ninja Theory/Xbox Game Studios)
    Silent Hill 2 (Bloober Team/Konami)

    Best Art Direction
    ASTRO BOT (Team Asobi/SIE)
    Black Myth: Wukong (Game Science)
    Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree (FromSoftware/Bandai Namco)
    Metaphor: ReFantazio (Studio Zero/Atlus/Sega)
    Neva (Nomada Studio/Devolver)

    Best Score and Music
    ASTRO BOT (Team Asobi/SIE)
    Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (Square Enix)
    Metaphor: ReFantazio (Studio Zero/Atlus/Sega)
    Silent Hill 2 (Bloober Team/Konami)
    Stellar Blade (Shift Up/SIE)

    Best Audio Design
    ASTRO BOT (Team Asobi/SIE)
    Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Treyarch/Raven/Activision/Xbox)
    Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (Square Enix)
    Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 (Ninja Theory/Xbox Game Studios)
    Silent Hill 2 (Bloober Team/Konami)

    Best Performance
    Briana White, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
    Hannah Telle, Life is Strange: Double Exposure
    Humberly González, Star Wars Outlaws
    Luke Roberts, Silent Hill 2
    Melina Juergens, Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2

    Innovation in Accessibility
    Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Treyarch/Raven/Activision/Xbox)
    Diablo IV (Blizzard/Xbox)
    Dragon Age: The Veilguard (BioWare/EA)
    Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown (Ubisoft Montpellier/Ubisoft)
    Star Wars Outlaws (Massive Entertainment/Ubisoft)

    Games for Impact
    Closer the Distance (Osmotic Studios/Skybound Games)
    Indika (Odd Meter/11 Bit Studios)
    Neva (Nomada Studio/Devolver)
    Life is Strange: Double Exposure (Deck Nine/Square Enix)
    Senua's Saga: Hellblade II (Ninja Theory/Xbox Game Studios)
    Tales of Kenzera: Zau (Surgent Studios/EA)

    Best Ongoing Game
    Destiny 2 (Bungie/SIE)
    Diablo IV (Blizzard/Xbox)
    Final Fantasy XIV (Square Enix)
    Fortnite (Epic Games)
    Helldivers 2 (Arrowhead Game Studios/SIE)

    Best Community Support
    Baldur's Gate 3 (Larian)
    Final Fantasy XIV (Square Enix)
    Fortnite (Epic Games)
    Helldivers 2 (Arrowhead Game Studios/SIE)
    No Man's Sky (Hello Games)

    Best Independent Game
    Animal Well (Shared Memory/Bigmode)
    Balatro (LocalThunk/Playstack)
    Lorelei and the Laser Eyes (Simogo/Annapurna Interactive)
    Neva (Nomada Studio/Devolver)
    UFO 50 (Mossmouth)

    Best Debut Indie Game
    Animal Well (Shared Memory/Bigmode)
    Balatro (LocalThunk/Playstack)
    Manor Lords (Slavic Magic/Hooded Horse)
    Pacific Drive (Ironwood Studios/Kepler Interactive)
    The Plucky Squire (All Possible Futures/Devolver)

    Best Mobile Game
    AFK Journey (FARLIGHT/Lilith Games)
    Balatro (LocalThunk/Playstack)
    Pokémon Trading Card Game Pocket (Creatures Inc/TPCI)
    Wuthering Waves (Kuro Games)
    Zenless Zone Zero (miHoYo)

    Best VR/AR Game
    Arizona Sunshine Remake (Vertigo Games)
    Asgard's Wrath 2 (Sanzaru Games/Oculus Studios)
    Batman: Arkham Shadow (Camouflaj/Oculus Studios)
    Metal: Hellsinger VR (Lab 42/The Outsiders/Funcom)
    Metro Awakening (Vertigo Games)

    Best Action Game
    Black Myth: Wukong (Game Science)
    Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Treyarch/Raven/Activision/Xbox)
    Helldivers 2 (Arrowhead Game Studios/SIE)
    Stellar Blade (Shift Up/SIE)
    Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 (Saber Interactive/Focus Entertainment)

    Best Action/Adventure Game
    ASTRO BOT (Team Asobi/SIE)
    Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown (Ubisoft Montpellier/Ubisoft)
    Silent Hill 2 (Bloober Team/Konami)
    Star Wars Outlaws (Massive Entertainment/Ubisoft)
    The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom (Grezzo/Nintendo)

    Best RPG
    Dragon's Dogma 2 (Capcom)
    Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree (FromSoftware/Bandai Namco)
    Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (Square Enix)
    Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth (Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio/Sega)
    Metaphor: ReFantazio (Studio Zero/Atlus/Sega)

    Best Fighting Game
    Dragon Ball: Sparking! ZERO (Spike Chunsoft/Bandai Namco)
    Granblue Fantasy Versus: Rising (Arc System Works/Cygames)
    Marvel vs Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics (Capcom)
    MultiVersus (Player First Games/WB Games)
    Tekken 8 (Bandai Namco)

    Best Family Game
    ASTRO BOT (Team Asobi/SIE)
    Princess Peach: Showtime! (Good-Feel/Nintendo)
    Super Mario Party Jamboree (Nintendo Cube/Nintendo)
    The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom (Grezzo/Nintendo)
    The Plucky Squire (All Possible Futures/Devolver)

    Best Sim/Strategy Game
    Age of Mythology: Retold (World's Edge/Forgotten Empires/Xbox Game Studios)
    Frostpunk 2 (11 Bit Studios)
    Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess (Capcom)
    Manor Lords (Slavic Magic/Hooded Horse)
    Unicorn Overlord (Vanillaware/Sega/Atlus)

    Best Sports/Racing Game
    F1 24 (Codemasters/EA Sports)
    EA Sports FC 25 (EA Vancouver/EA Romania/EA Sports)
    NBA 2K25 (Visual Concepts/2K)
    Top Spin 2K25 (Hangar 13/2K)
    WWE 2K24 (Visual Concepts/2K)

    Best Multiplayer Game
    Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Treyarch/Raven/Activision/Xbox)
    Helldivers 2 (Arrow Game Studios/SIE)
    Super Mario Party Jamboree (Nintendo Cube/Nintendo)
    Tekken 8 (Bandai Namco)
    Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 (Saber Interactive/Focus Entertainment)

    Best Adaptation
    Arcane (Riot/Fortiche/Netflix)
    Fallout (Bethesda/Kilter Films/Amazon MGM Studios)
    Knuckles (Sega/Paramount)
    Like a Dragon: Yakuza (Sega/Amazon MGM Studios)
    Tomb Raider: The Legend of Lara Croft (Crystal Dynamics/Legendary/Netflix)

    Most Anticipated Game
    Death Stranding 2: On the Beach (Kojima Productions/SIE)
    Ghost of Yōtei (Sucker Punch Productions/SIE)
    Grand Theft Auto VI (Rockstar Games)
    Metroid Prime 4: Beyond (Retro Studios/Nintendo)
    Monster Hunter Wilds (Capcom)

    Content Creator of the Year
    CaseOh
    IlloJuan
    Techno Gamerz
    TypicalGamer
    Usada Pekora

    Best Esports Game
    Counter-Strike 2 (Valve)
    DOTA 2 (Valve)
    League of Legends (Riot Games)
    Mobile Legends: Bang Bang (Moonton)
    Valorant (Riot Games)

    Best Esports Athlete
    33 – Neta Shapira
    Aleksib – Aleksi Virolainen
    Chovy – Jeong Ji-hoon
    Faker – Lee Sang-hyeok
    ZyWoO – Mathieu Herbaut
    ZmjjKk – Zheng Yongkang

    Best Esports Team
    Bilibili Gaming (League of Legends)
    Gen.G (League of Legends)
    NAVI (Counter-Strike)
    T1 (League of Legends)
    Team Liquid (DOTA 2)



Comments

  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,247 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I wish these 'awards' didn't have so much mind share online as they mean absolutely nothing. It's a popularity contest so the best game won't win, the best game most journalists have played will win. This year at least a genuine game of the year contender will run away with it, or at least should. The snubbing of most indie games really shows how shallow it is, I mean Wu Kong over UFO 50 or other better Indies?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,258 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Nice to see Balatro got a nomination for GOTY. The time I've spent on the toilet has increased to dangerous levels because of that game.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,958 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    And [ad break] the [ad break] winner [ad break] is…

    [cuts to ad while winners are giving their speech]



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭Spooch


    Very weird for a DLC that's not even a standalone expansion to be nominated as GOTY.

    Geoff Keighley rubs me the wrong way. There's something off about him I can't quite put my finger on



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,958 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The man is the epitome of blandness. He spends virtually his entire public life presenting video game ads at overproduced corporate showcases and having no interesting opinions about anything because he’s so devoted to securing more ads. Very easy to dislike him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,649 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    In fairness, it's a DLC that's probably longer than a lot of other games that get nominated. It's substantial enough to warrant it imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭Spooch


    You're probably right, but at the end of the day it's not a "game" as such. It's by very definition an extension of the base game, regardless of how big the content is.

    I'm just a bit miffed that so many good games this year could have done with the spotlight. Elden Ring had its time. It's fantastic sure, but it's a shame another game had to miss out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,495 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Seems this year remakes and remasters were also eligible alongside DLC and expansions.

    So in theory, the GotY contenders could've been Last of Us Part 2, Luigi's Mansion 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Until Dawn, Dead Rising and Braid as the indie contender.

    But out of all the games nominated in all the categories, I've only played Animal Well. So safe to say I won't be voting for any in the Boards awards. 😀

    I could nearly vote in the Adaptation category though since I've seen all but Like a Dragon.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,247 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    And frustrating because before he decided to run his videogame advert show he was one of the better videogame journalists that wrote some really great long form essays.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,958 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    He still occasionally shows up with his ‘final hours’ documentaries which seem well made and researched, but alas he also seems to be trying to fill the yearly calendar with as many ad-fests as possible



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭nix


    ads? are they not reveals mostly? I've watched them for the last few years and what i can recall of them is its cringe awards ceremonies weaved around first look/reveal trailers for new games or a new trailer for an upcoming already revealed game. I hate traditional ads myself and would never sit through them so i dont know what you guys are talking about 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,649 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The ads are less "commercial break" and more "this company paid us money to integrate their sh*t into the event". So while there might be a few movie/tv trailer spots, a good bit of it will be presenters or guests who are there to promote things.

    Like The Rock with his "Enjoy your gaming!" a few years ago at Summer Games Fest



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,958 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Also: the ‘reveals’ and trailers are very much ads that companies are paying Keighley an awful lot of money to show :)

    It’s a marketing reel with a half-assed awards show tacked on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,649 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah I would have loved it if Animal Well had gotten a GOTY nomination, but ultimately I think "Game of the Year" is more about what got the most people talking about it, enthused about it, took over the gaming landscape for a few weeks, showcased excellent design and craft etc. In that regard I do think its fair that (substantial) DLCs and remakes can and should be in the discussion for GOTY.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,247 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Animal Well deserves to be there more than FFVII and Wu Kong. Both decent games but hardly goty material.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,649 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    BM Wukong definitely feels like the outlier. I know it had a lot of buzz on release, but it was only generally well-received and felt like a bit of a flash in the pan, and a lot of that felt like it was down to how heavily it was being pushed in terms of marketing rather than actual love for the game.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,247 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    If I was being cynical I'd say it's being included to appeal to the Chinese audience and get them interested in the event.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭SomeSayKos


    I had to google 'Metaphor ReFantazio' as I had not heard of it, and I just copped it's directed by Katsura Hashino?!

    I loved Persona 5, so I'm tempted to give it a go, but also kinda wary of the time commitment.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,958 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Yes, it’s basically Persona 6, in almost every sense other than setting.

    But yes, do put time aside: I’m 30 hours in and a lot more to go.

    Also: the demo is very expansive and the data carries over, so would certainly recommend giving it a go.

    Post edited by johnny_ultimate on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Actually the outlier is that feking poker-with-a-twist card game, I know it's addictive (I mean, it is gambling) but that doesn't make it GoTY material. There, rant over. Black Myth: Wukong is a great game, better than a lot of AAA slop we got this year, hugely popular and 100% deserving the nomination.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,958 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Balatro is absolutely GOTY material. One of the most ingeniously designed video games I've played in a minute. Much more to love rather than it just being addictive. Of the four games I've played on the GOTY list, it'd be my winner.

    I wouldn't trust any GOTY 2024 list that only contains one small-scale indie game, as it's been a year of endlessly excellent indie bangers. But of course The Game Awards has a heavy AAA and popularity bias.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,247 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    To everyone saying Balatro isn't GotY material I just say play it. It really is that good.

    Wu Kong doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the best 5 games in any year let alone a year stacked with incredible games. It's decent enough but hardly the top of the pile. I suspect it's there to get more Chinese people watching.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭Cordell


    No matter how good or addictive a card playing game is it's still a card playing game and honestly the praise I'm hearing makes me reluctant to even try it, simply because I can't see anyone saying what exactly is good about it other than it being addictive. I have enough vices as it is, I don't need a new one…

    As for Black Myth:Wukong in my opinion is the second best game of 2024 after Shadow of the Erdtree so I'm delighted to see it getting the recognition it deserves, even if it is for the, let's say, wrong reasons.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,958 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    So in other words you're insistent that Balatro is absolutely not GOTY material, despite not having even played it?

    The game takes familiar game concepts and completely upends them. The language of poker makes the game accessible, but Localthunk has no interest in making a faithful adaptation of the game. Instead, it's a game that gives you an overwhelming amount of delightful tools to completely break apart the basics of card games and create absurd decks, builds and combos. It's a game of constant meaningful decision making, where every upgrade or purchase with your limited currency could be the difference between early failure or statrospheric success. It is a game loaded with pure, brilliant game design, but also iconic art and a wonderfully atmospheric, hynotic score.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭McFly85


    It’s genius because it’s poker but it isn’t, so everyone has a good starting point and can basically jump right in. It’s not gambling because you’re not trying to win money as you are trying to complete a run. Each completed hand gives the opportunity for you to buy special cards, level up hands or get multipliers by buying certain jokers. The fun is in experimenting with what bonuses work best with each other to see how effective a run you can put together.

    I’ve been travelling recently and it’s the perfect mobile game imo. Easy to get into, endlessly replayable and no microtransactions. Makes plane journeys literally fly by!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I hear ya, I mean I won't play it but I hear ya. It's a good game. Fine.

    I still hope the award will go to either Shadow of the Erdtree or Black Myth:Wukong and I still maintain my opinion that a card game can't be GoTY no matter how good it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,649 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    It's easy to break down any game to its most base-level concept and say it's bad. Balatro is more than just a "card playing game" because the rogue-like elements, the variety of different cards which change your playstyle, and how you mess with the formula of what a standard poker-type game is gives it a level of strategy and enjoyment beyond just "three-of-a-kind beats a pair" card playing game. There are layers of risk & reward built in, randomised elements and so many different ways to approach things to build your own strategy. With the right combination of modifier cards, a 2 of clubs will beat four aces.

    There's both an incredible simplicity to it but also substantial depth. The more you play the more you unlock different types of modifiers, learn different strategies, and how to adapt to what cards you're getting and how to abuse/maximise them. And a big part of the joy of the game is the simplicity of the design.

    It's not good because it's addictive; it's addictive because it's good. But, if you go into it with the mindset of "It's just an addictive card playing game", it's likely that's all you're going to see.

    It is definitely GOTY material though. No reason why it shouldn't be.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,958 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Absolutely any new good game should qualify for GOTY, regardless of genre, budget, scale or other arbitary declarations of worth. If anything, one of the major systemic problems with **** like The Game Awards is how they constantly overemphasise big budget blockbusters and popular hits over smaller, niche indie titles, creating false narratives of which games are 'worthy' of accolades and which ones aren't.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I would say GoTY must go to games that are big in terms of popularity, games that will be remembered years after their launch, and games that positively make an impact on the gaming industry. So that would exclude small niche titles, I mean, "game of the year" must be a game everyone playing games at least know, right?

    And fine, Balantro seems hugely popular and probably will create a series of other classic-with-a-twist card games, so, I reluctantly accept that it's deserving the nomination.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,247 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    In that case only the most popular games should be GotY contenders? So that means Fortnite and Roblox?

    Popularity is not a measure of quality. But you just don't get that do you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭Cordell


    No, not by popularity alone, but it's can't be some niche obscure game either. Popularity is (and it should be) a criteria, but being popular is not enough.

    And popularity is an objectively measurable quality, and the awards can't ignore what people like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,649 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Ultimately for these Game Awards, the nominees are based on a selected panel of 100+ games journalists, outlets etc, and then the winner from the top 5-6 in each category are selected on a mix of votes from those journalists/outlets and public vote.

    https://thegameawards.com/faq

    So it's unlikely that a game which isn't somewhat popular will get the votes to become a nominee. At the same time though, popularity even among the wider public doesn't mean a game will get the votes to become one of the top nominees. It's not a case of "ignoring what people like", but popularity alone isn't enough to carry a game. Even if say CoD fans were saying this year's CoD is the best it's been in years, huge praise for it and CoD became more popular than it's been in years etc, if it hasn't done anything innovative or interesting enough to be more than just "a good CoD", why should it be considered as a possible Game of the Year?

    Popularity gets the game noticed by more people, but it's similar to what I said about Balatro not being good because it's addictive but rather being addictive because it's good. A game might become popular because it's good, but that doesn't mean a game is good just because it's popular or worthy of being a GOTY contender.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭Cordell


    popularity alone isn't enough to carry a game

    I never said otherwise, so I don't understand why we're debating it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,649 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    And I never said you said that. My full quote was in response to this line of yours:

    "And popularity is an objectively measurable quality, and the awards can't ignore what people like."

    The point I was making was that the awards absolutely can ignore what people like because "popularity alone isn't enough to carry a game".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭Cordell


    In the same post you extracted that line I literally said exactly that popularity alone isn't enough. Good games will be popular, and that doesn't necessarily mean all popular games are good. But if they nominate or award games that no one like then what's the point?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,649 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The point is that in their opinion, under that category, they think it was one of the best games of the year. I mean you say popularity is an objectively measurable quality, but what bar does a game have to reach for one of the voting panel to decide "Actually, not enough people played that game so I'll nominate a game that I don't think was as good"?

    If 5 out of the 100 jury panel nominated a game that didn't sell that well, isn't that well known, it's not going to be one of the top 5/6 games up for voting anyway. But if 25 of them do then it might, and at that stage even though the game might be more of an obscure, niche title, if they thought it was the best game in that category this year, it deserves to be nominated. Might not win, but deserves to be nominated. And the game being a nominee might then bring more attention to it, make people give it a shot, and it could even become retrospectively popular and well-regarded.

    On a weighted list of metrics to judge a game on, popularity is so far down the list you'd have to turn the page over to see it on the back. I'm not saying it's not a factor, but a very popular game not being nominated while a more obscure game is wouldn't be a case of the awards ignoring what people like, it's just a case that more of the voting panel thought the obscure game was a better game.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,958 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Quality is the overwhelming criteria for a 'game of the year' award IMO, and everything else pales in comparison.

    Not all great games will be 'popular'. Games like The Crimson Diamond, UFO 50, Lorelei and the Laser Eyes, 1000xRESIST and Arco have been critically acclaimed and warmly received by their audience, yet have a mere fraction of the playerbase of some better known titles - quite publicly in Arco's case. One of my favourites of the year, the new Shiren the Wanderer, probably sold a couple of thousand copies in the West, given it's fairly niche even in Japan. I see no good reason why they should be disqualified or relegated to 'indie' categories simply because they don't have the player counts of better known titles.

    Obviously, evidence dictates that any awards decided by a panel or (heaven forbid) audience vote will skew towards popularity and what has been played widely. But any truly serious or thorough 'best of the year' list should be inclusive of the whole breadth of great games released that year. Awards and accolades at their best also bring a big benefit in terms of discoverability to standout titles - you're already seeing people discover Balatro due to its nomination here, even if was already a massive success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Bit of a sh*t year, it seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭nix


    To me what would make game of the year would be a breakdown of:

    Gameplay

    Graphics

    Story/Writing

    Sound design

    Presentation/controls

    You could get away with being weak in probably graphics and sound, depending on the type/style of game.

    That's pretty much how most would factor it also, its just mainstream media/influencers tend to also include popularity/sales/bribes/whatever else bullsh!t. Which is what takes the sport out of it and makes most people mock them or not take them serious. And rightly so, most of them are compromised.

    However, Geoff Keighley's game awards I myself kinda like, because looking back over the history of it, i cant see a case of the winner of the game of the year being a biased pick in any of its history. Now there haven't been many close calls so thats likely why, the only years with a load of great games were 2015 and 2018.

    In 2015 it was won by Witcher 3, while if it was given to Bloodborne I wouldn't have had an issue..

    And 2018 is the only year i can see where pretty much, nearly every game had the potential to win over the other, crazy year for gaming.

    So I'm all for the way Geoff is doing it.. so far.. You complain of ads? Money needs to be made as people need to get paid, be thankful its at least gaming related and the potential for excitement :D



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭nix


    However I will say, the Harry Potter game being excluded last year was a bunch of bullshit, if i see any **** like that happen again, ill be dunking on the Geoff awards with the rest of yiz..

    Has anything else like that happened before? I've only been watching it a few years on and off, i usually just skim the results on a page if i see them..



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,247 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The Harry Potter game was a mid as **** Ubisoft game. I mean the dragon quest hero in smash bros can use more spells than you get in Harry Potter.

    And I'll say again, story isn't essential. See Balatro.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,649 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The Harry Potter game was about as clear an example of popularity not being a big factor as you can get. It was a popular game, but by most reviews, it was generally well received as decent but not really anything special. Decent wasn't enough in a year like 2023 where there were some amazing games which blew Hogwarts Legacy out of the water in most categories.

    Not saying some of the judges who vote on what games are nominated may not have had personal biases against the game, but at the same time, the game came and went like a fart in the wind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭nix


    Oh im not suggesting it should have been nominated for the GOTY award itself because it was great or anything, i havent actually played it myself, but it wasn't included in any award nomination at all. And not because it was bad, it was well received by pretty much everybody that played it, it wasn't put in for political reasons apparently.

    I mean ****, it was one of the highest rated games of 2023 and sold the most copies, 22 million. And not in one category at the game awards? not saying those should be factors but games that popular usually get thrown into at least some categories, its insane!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,649 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    That's what I mean though; the fact there were so many huge games last year was enough to put it out of the top 5 in pretty much all categories, especially since most of those huge games did what HL did, but better.

    Every member of the voting jury (100+ people) vote for their top picks in each category, and the top 5 from all of those become the nominees for the Game Awards. So it's not like they try to find one or two categories to put a game that popular in. It most likely just didn't get enough votes to make it into any category. It was an okay adventure/rpg game in a year of amazing adventure/rpg games.

    In terms of critical reception (and the voting jury are people in the industry, journalists etc), the game was received well but not special by most. Whereas looking at all the categories and nominees, it's hard to see what HL could reasonably have replaced.



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