Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

The Spectrum - reproduction ZX 48K Spectrum

  • 24-08-2024 3:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭


    https://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/gaming-and-tech/retro-gaming/the-spectrum/p/243333

    I have my order in



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,864 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Definitely the coolest 8 bit home computer of all time. It was punk/indie/fun/hackable/alternative/cheap while C64/Amstrad ... were corporate snores. 😁

    Includes a copy of Crash magazine ❤️

    I wonder is it a compilation issue that reviews the games that come built in with this thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭deadl0ck


    I'd say it will be just a copy of the latest edition of the new version that Fusion Retro Books do: https://fusionretrobooks.com/collections/crash-magazine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Do I need it? No. Do I have room for it? Arguably not. Can I afford it? ngh.. probably. Do I want it? Hell yeah!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭SteM


    Went from a ZX81 to a Spectrum back in the day, it has Manic Miner pre installed so I'll probably pick one up.



  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I want one, as an owner of the machine back in the day.

    The option to play your own stuff from a USB isn't new, and the full collection of Speccy games has a lot of lousy awful efforts.

    But, with a well curated list, there's more than enough great games to get stuck into.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,696 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Would be an expensive buy for a bit of nostalgia, but will you really play it?

    I mean, most folk who are still into gaming and had one of these when they were a teen, more than likely have a gaming PC or a ps5?

    When you see games on those, why would you wanna play incredibly simple games from the 80s and 90s? You might for a day or two, but you'll get bored quickly and it'll lie in a cupboard surely?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,581 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Tbh the first thing I thought of when I saw it was the thoughts of playing around with basic again. I reckon a lot of people will look at it that way rather than the games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,696 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Ah right, I misunderstood what it was. I didn't realise it was a full Spectrum replica. I thought it was a new box loaded with old Spectrum games, made to look like a Spectrum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,581 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Well I don't know myself but I'd assume it comes with basic!



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭SteM


    The description says emulates 16k/48k/128k so I'd imagine it has basic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,544 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Official vid......your BASIC is at the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    The one I had I couldn't get new games for it at the time so with it connected to the TV I recorded it on vcr while stopped the games loading. And it would list from the start incode what went wrong.

    Then I learnt what the code meant and could ad edit code my own code to the game to change it.

    I even wrote code for my own games with this that included adding my kids name when something happened . Gas times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭Inviere


    You say that as if fancy graphics equate to great games. They don't. Many of the greatest games of all time are from the 80s and 90s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭SteM


    Remember typing game code printed in magazines to play them, and then save them to cassette.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Sid 1984


    And not working because you missed a colon on line 68……. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭SteM


    Think that was bad? Typing on the ZX81 was worse and sometimes the (16k!) ram expansion pack on the back would wobble and come loose meaning you'd loose all of the work if you hadn't saved it!

    That thought me the meaning of patience when I was a kid at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Funnily enough thats my main interest too. I can emulate every game ever made for it on a Raspberry Pi, but when I had access to a Commodore 64 and later an Amstrad 464, I was too young to start BASIC, and I got access too late, and living in rural Galway didnt help. So yeah, coding something in BASIC is an aspiration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,544 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    TBH, there's a decent physical template already there for a proper reproduction of the Spectrum with the Recreated Spectrum from a few years ago. Knocked together for Elite, it was in the end, just a Bluetooth keyboard for hooking up your iPad and whatnot, but it had a decent feel, even for the keys which this version will hopefully end up with. Agree about the RETRO embossed on the front, which is unfortunate, but there's probably some wariness or lack of will dealing with the Sinclair trademark - think Sky still hold that, certainly the Next developers had to get permission for their design from them.

    Like many of the 'mini-consoles' it's ultimately destined for the shelf after a little tinkering about with, but at least this time around they had the sense to just go for the 'full thing' first as opposed to the 64 and Amiga minis ahead of full size versions - hard to see an appetite for a tiny fake keyboard especially when it's more or less required as the 'main controller'. These days most retro Spectrum users will either be using an original, some clone like a Harlequin, MiSTer or a Next in any case, so it's little more than a curiousity for those users, but it's nice to see any new product with a retro angle, and if it opens a door for anyone looking for some nostalgia it's all good.

    Elite's Recreated Spectrum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Yeah, me too. I'm obviously a bit older then you - I learned BASIC on the Speccy when I was 17!

    If this properly emulates it'll be amazing fun. 128k - imagine!



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I'm just wondering, would I not be better off buying a dead Spectrum(For about a tenner), take out the internals, add in a raspberry Pi, and go from there. Would it not be a similar user experience?

    Theres nothing stopping me learning BASIC now on one of my systems.

    It would be a pure nostalgia purchase, but where does it stop. There's no end of stuff I had and want again, or didn't have and did want, which inevitably will end up on a shelf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    That's where self-control comes in…

    (says the guy who excitedly bought gig tickets a few weeks ago, then couldn't be arsed to go)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    By the time you buy a non working Spectrum and perform the surgery needed to revive it, you may well end up spending quite a bit more in time and money compared with simply picking up this new Spectrum device.

    I have a feeling that there will be those driven because they owned one back in the day, such as myself.

    And there will be those who also own at least one ZX Spectrum of some hue, and want this device as it is, itself, an interesting artifact.

    It's much like the logic in owning a PC Engine Mini, you can emulate these titles on almost anything with a screen, but then there's the joy at a tangible device, which brings back not only the games but the experience of playing them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭Inviere


    The UI also, if done tastefully, can add to the experience with these things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Boxman


    Edit:

    Perhaps try before you buy..

    https://torinak.com/qaop/play

    I love Commando

    https://torinak.com/qaop/play/commando

    Post edited by Boxman on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭mm_surf


    Sigh. Pre-ordered.

    M.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,761 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Am not a gamer at all but i would buy this for Manic Minor alone....presumably there's no other way of playing it anywhere else.

    I think we had a tape machine beside our spectrum?

    Closest I've seen to it is a YouTube video…

    Can see me caving to buy it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭SteM


    Just Google 'manic miner online' and you'll see websites to play it on. Quicker than loading it by tape 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Boxman


    https://torinak.com/qaop/play/manicminer



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭mm_surf


    And I'm sure speccy fans already know, but for the zx-curious, the website "world of spectrum" has a massive archive of software. They secured permission to distribute for almost everything ("ultimate" software a notable exception)

    https://worldofspectrum.org/

    M.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭SteM


    Thanks for that. Ant Attack drove me crazy when I was a kid. I see the same level of frustration in my son when he plays Fortnite that caused my Dad to confiscate that tape from me when I was young.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭Inviere




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Yeah, me too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭Quigs Snr


    on the one hand… even though I was a C64 guy, there has always been a small shelf in my game room dedicated to Spectrum. So there’s no reason for me to buy this…


    ….. but on the other hand there was also no need for me to buy any of these either since I have in many cases vastly larger physical collections of each.

    It’s a form of mental illness I expect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    I'd suggest Spectrum Computing as well, personally I find it far better experience for browsing and downloading games these days. Codemasters, Melbourne House a couple of other big hitters distribution denied on WoS and Spectrum Computing but still very easy to find.

    Lady Eklipse revision of the Spectrum TOSEC on archive.org is a brilliant resource too, and if pokes work on this emulator (I'm sure they probably do) she has a brilliant collection of those too.

    For things a bit more left field and demos, music etc. I'd recommend ZXArt

    A Portuguese site called Planeta Sinclair gives lots of news and reviews of modern games, Google translate required obviously!

    Talking of modern games Itch.io has lots (and lots) of modern Spectrum games, some of which are fantastic and well worth trying out to see just how much modern programmers can squeeze out of the Spectrum. Pat Morita Team from Spain and Sinc Lair and Zosya Entertainment from Ukraine/Russia are teams well worth checking out.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭Dublinandy3


    I have just caved in and ordered it. You don't often find things cheaper in Smyth's than Amazon.

    It's a shame I couldn't order the gamepad in the same order as free delivery is from 25 Euro and above and the gamepad is 24.99. I'll just wait for it to come back in stock on Amazon and get the gamepad from there.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,761 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    I ordered something from Smiths recently that was €24.99 and surprisingly it automatically applied free delivery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭Dublinandy3


    That's good to know, I'll give it a try, cheers.

    Edit: You are right, gr at spot and nice to see a company be decent with these things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,335 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Noel from Noel's Retro Lab has a review



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,544 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Dropped in the door this morning. Hope to get a look over the weekend, but after a number of these kind of devices, we kind of know what to expect. That said, the unit itself feels nice and solid (obviously has a couple weights in there), keys feel a little stiff, but to be fair, the original new from the box was probably similar from the off. Logo isn't too bad in the flesh, but obviously won't be a problem when it's back in the box and sitting on the shelf. 😂



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,555 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'd be mad to buy one of these, wouldn't I? I use FUSE on my laptop and have a couple of spare Raspberry Pis I've been threatening to put Recalbox or Retropie on for a long time… but still… I'm tempted!

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭SteM


    Ah the reviews look great. I'm going to pick one up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I could emulate it on a Pi, of which I have a couple spares too. I'll most likely have a great weekend of Spectrum geekdom and then stick it on a shelf. At least a Pi I can repurpose for something else. Maybe this is me being mature and sensible, but I'm holding off.

    (Not really in keeping with the vibe of the thread I know)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Got a .tap file for Elite. Forgotten how difficult it is with a speccy keyboard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭Quigs Snr


    .. for my part I decided to get a rom for my favourite game of that era, Turrican C64 to see how it played on the Spectrum. Grim. Very grim.



Advertisement