Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

Clegg · 08-05-2021 7:54pm

ongarite wrote: »

Is Ross gone off injured?

Yep.

Ringrose has gone to 10.

Squidgy Black · 08-05-2021 7:54pm

ongarite wrote: »

Is Ross gone off injured?

Seems so, unless the coaches figure we're ahead here so take him off

Clegg · 08-05-2021 7:59pm

What

A

Try

Edit: may have been knocked out of Kearney's hand.

Clegg · 08-05-2021 8:00pm

Ringrose has played 13, 10 and now 9 in this game.

ongarite · 08-05-2021 8:00pm

No try, he dropped it under pressure from tackler

KaneToad · 08-05-2021 8:01pm

Clegg wrote: »

What

A

Try

Edit: may have been knocked out of Kearney's hand.

Almost

Faugheen · 08-05-2021 8:01pm

Sean O’Brien has done excellently there

sydthebeat · 08-05-2021 8:01pm

Great defense by SOB 15.8866.86500

Clegg · 08-05-2021 8:04pm

Tbh I'm a bit perplexed at our continued insistence of using Baird as a blindside. I've yet to see him have an effective game there.

stephen_n · 08-05-2021 8:07pm

Clegg wrote: »

Tbh I'm a bit perplexed at our continued insistence of using Baird as a blindside. I've yet to see him have an effective game there.

Murphy was injured, no choice.

Clegg · 08-05-2021 8:08pm

stephen_n wrote: »

Murphy was injured, no choice.

Fair enough. Thought it was purely tactical.

Although we're now really scraping the bottom of the barrel for fit players. Ruddock did his hamstring last week.

stephen_n · 08-05-2021 8:09pm

Clegg wrote: »

Fair enough. Thought it was purely tactical.

Although we're now really scraping the bottom of the barrel for fit players. Ruddock did his hamstring last week.

Losing Conan early didn’t help. I would imagine he was supposed to come on in the row.

08-05-2021 8:12pm

you'd expect Baird to do better in that tackle

acer911 · 08-05-2021 8:17pm

Diving over the ruck? Is that right from Murphy, ball was picked and therefore out so the ruck was over so then it shouldn’t be a penalty?

Buer · 08-05-2021 8:18pm

Alexander Unsightly Tightrope wrote: »

you'd expect Baird to do better in that tackle

Since the 6N, he has been poor. He'd be doing well to make the Irish squad let alone the 23 in this form.

Faugheen · 08-05-2021 8:19pm

Ringrose has had a fantastic game. Definitely out to make a point tonight.

Clegg · 08-05-2021 8:21pm

Buer wrote: »

Since the 6N, he has been poor. He'd be doing well to make the Irish squad let alone the 23 in this form.

He's barely played since the Six Nations. Just cameos off the bench. Can't get into form with limited game time.

thegreycity · 08-05-2021 8:21pm

I love Hugo

Clegg · 08-05-2021 8:21pm

VDF just burst through Papali'i with his carry.

ongarite · 08-05-2021 8:22pm

Keenan's ability to get his hands free from tacker is superb.
Able to stretch in for 2 trys even though he was being tackled.

08-05-2021 8:22pm

Clegg wrote: »

VDF just burst through Papali'i with his carry.

Papali'i just tried to tickle him

Faugheen · 08-05-2021 8:23pm

ongarite wrote: »

Keenan's ability to get his hands free from tacker is superb.
Able to stretch in for 2 trys even though he was being tackled.

The year he spent with the 7s has worked wonders for him. Really improved his skill set.

Squidgy Black · 08-05-2021 8:24pm

Weird aul game. 8 tries but it didn't feel like we played well really outside of our maul and Dave and Keenan running riot.

Buer · 08-05-2021 8:25pm

Clegg wrote: »

He's barely played since the Six Nations. Just cameos off the bench. Can't get into form with limited game time.

Had 70 minutes against Munster, 55 against La Rochelle and 20 minutes a couple of times off the bench. Not a massive amount but enough to judge his form over that period. Even tonight in an utter drubbing, he didn't have a very positive impact.

Strumms · 08-05-2021 8:31pm

Only real negative of that match was the refereeing in the second half.. had a hard on for giving penalties against Leinster... whistle constantly to his lips and hand itching to give the advantage or penalty...the late disallowed try by Kearney , hmmmm was it not ripped forward or back by the Connaght player? ?

Clegg · 08-05-2021 8:35pm

Keenan is comfortably the best 15 in the country now. Maybe Addison could challenge if he remains fit. But that's a big if.

thegreycity · 08-05-2021 8:38pm

What's the name of the woman on the panel? Haven't seen her before and she seems like a natural at it.

Buer · 08-05-2021 8:40pm

thegreycity wrote: »

What's the name of the woman on the panel? Haven't seen her before and she seems like a natural at it.

Louise Galvin and she has been extremely articulate and given some good insight.

TRC10 · 08-05-2021 8:41pm

Clegg wrote: »

Keenan is comfortably the best 15 in the country now. Maybe Addison could challenge if he remains fit. But that's a big if.

Has been for a while now. So underrated. Cracking player with very few weaknesses.

thegreycity · 08-05-2021 8:42pm

Buer wrote: »

Louise Galvin and she has been extremely articulate and given some good insight.

Yea agreed, been really enjoying her analysis.

molloyjh · 08-05-2021 8:53pm

stephen_n wrote: »

Losing Conan early didn’t help. I would imagine he was supposed to come on in the row.

Possibly, but it was VDF who came on for him. Murphy wasn't injured was he? So it was a tactical decision to play him at 6. The back row injuries are obviously a big part of the problem, but he'd be better served focusing on second row play. Move Fardy back to 6 if required.

Dubinusa · 08-05-2021 8:54pm

theVersatile wrote: »

Well that's one way of replying.

Abuses Toilets will be **** to that Keenan line for a month

Me too!

salmocab · 08-05-2021 8:56pm

Strumms wrote: »

Only real negative of that match was the refereeing in the second half.. had a hard on for giving penalties against Leinster... whistle constantly to his lips and hand itching to give the advantage or penalty...the late disallowed try by Kearney , hmmmm was it not ripped forward or back by the Connaght player? ?

I’d say the biggest negative was injuries. Probably won’t matter as the season is all but finished though.

stephen_n · 08-05-2021 9:00pm

molloyjh wrote: »

Possibly, but it was VDF who came on for him. Murphy wasn't injured was he? So it was a tactical decision to play him at 6. The back row injuries are obviously a big part of the problem, but he'd be better served focusing on second row play. Move Fardy back to 6 if required.

Murphy was injured just prior to being removed. I assume that was the reason for the switch. Having VDF to cover the backrow would suggest Baird was likely covering second row. Though with Fardy there it’s hard to know what they intended.

Rugby4568 · 08-05-2021 9:03pm

Clegg wrote: »

Keenan is comfortably the best 15 in the country now. Maybe Addison could challenge if he remains fit. But that's a big if.

Lowry is the second best I think. He’s not far off Keenan imo. Lowry is a really exciting player to watch

Dubinusa · 08-05-2021 9:04pm

I'll probably watch this later. On Frawley, why was he not given the remaining few games off. We could have played Hawkshaw? Now, if RB is hurt who comes in next week? Sexton? It's weird to me that Leo is not playing the younger lads. It's the ideal no one gives a rat's ass competition to blood these lads.

Buer · 08-05-2021 9:05pm

Murphy was limping heavily and getting treatment minutes before he was removed. I'd imagine the plan was to take Fardy off for Baird rather than have the old legs play 80.

molloyjh · 08-05-2021 9:18pm

Buer wrote: »

Murphy was limping heavily and getting treatment minutes before he was removed. I'd imagine the plan was to take Fardy off for Baird rather than have the old legs play 80.

But once Murphy came off then Fardy was always going to play the 80. So why not move him back to 6 and put Baird into the row?

sebdavis · 08-05-2021 10:31pm

Buer wrote: »

Had 70 minutes against Munster, 55 against La Rochelle and 20 minutes a couple of times off the bench. Not a massive amount but enough to judge his form over that period. Even tonight in an utter drubbing, he didn't have a very positive impact.

Baird is very young and his first real season. Knocking young lads who are trying their best is not really something I like to see

Lost Ormond · 08-05-2021 10:35pm

sebdavis wrote: »

Baird is very young and his first real season. Knocking young lads who are trying their best is not really something I like to see

At the same time we have to stop and shouldnt be completely over hyping these very young players in there first seasons/first real seasons as well as that happens far too much....

aloooof · 08-05-2021 10:44pm

sebdavis wrote: »

Baird is very young and his first real season. Knocking young lads who are trying their best is not really something I like to see

And yet you recently said this about Gav Coombes:

sebdavis wrote: »

The hype around Coombes is a bit of the top from my point of view. The Pro14 website done a comparison with Penny and to be honest Penny is ahead.

Would he be as hyped if he came from the Leinster academy?

thomond2006 · 08-05-2021 10:47pm

Gavin Coombes is a good example of more of a slow burn development bearing fruit. It took him until around his 23rd birthday to become a regular starter.

2018/19: 2 starts + 6 bench
2019/20: 1 start + 6 bench
2020/21: 16 starts + 4 bench

No two players are the same and those stats ignore any injuries over that period, but it could take Baird another season or two to push on.

accensi0n · 08-05-2021 10:48pm

Clegg wrote: »

Keenan is comfortably the best 15 in the country now. Maybe Addison could challenge if he remains fit. But that's a big if.

What's mad about Keenan is he just seems to play well at every level he moves up to, doesn't seemed to get fazed at all. Also get the impression that it's not a first season form bump, that he'll just be playing this well for years.

sebdavis · 09-05-2021 5:53am

aloooof wrote: »

And yet you recently said this about Gav Coombes:

Really little bee in your bonnet about that post.

Yes I did post that and I explained multiple times to you what the post meant and it wasn’t knocking Coombes. It ain’t my fault you can’t understand and continue to misquote it.

Move on mate, you got a couple of likes so you should be happy.

Buer · 09-05-2021 7:50am

sebdavis wrote: »

Baird is very young and his first real season. Knocking young lads who are trying their best is not really something I like to see

I withdraw my comment. Saying that a player has been in poor form in recent weeks was completely over the top. I should have paused before I gave him both barrels.

Mods, can you please delete my post to prevent any potential libel cases?

sebdavis · 09-05-2021 7:53am

Buer wrote: »

I withdraw my comment. Saying that a player has been in poor form in recent weeks was completely over the top. I should have paused before I gave him both barrels.

Mods, can you please delete my post to prevent any potential libel cases?

You can remove it yourself, no need for mods

sydthebeat · 09-05-2021 7:54am

Sooner de fcuk this pandemic is over the better... Cos we've all turned into cranky feckers over the last year

Faugheen · 09-05-2021 8:01am

sebdavis wrote: »

Baird is very young and his first real season. Knocking young lads who are trying their best is not really something I like to see

He is very young but he has also played poorly since the Six Nations.

He’s going through a bad run of form. It happens but it doesn’t mean he can’t be criticised for it just because he’s young. He’s an Ireland international at the end of the day and I think it’s fair to expect more from your internationals.

aloooof · 09-05-2021 8:32am

sebdavis wrote: »

Really little bee in your bonnet about that post.

Yes I did post that and I explained multiple times to you what the post meant and it wasn’t knocking Coombes. It ain’t my fault you can’t understand and continue to misquote it.
Move on mate, you got a couple of likes so you should be happy.

Just pointing out your hypocrisy and continued tendency to be extremely lenient on Leinster players while not offering the same to other players.

There is room for reasonable criticism, while not over-hyping players on the other end of the spectrum. Saying “Baird has been poor” is hardly pasting the guy.

(As for the mis-quoting comment... :rolleyes: I could list off 3 or 4 times where you’ve done just that to me in the recent past, but you’d probably have an issue with that too).

VANG1 · 09-05-2021 8:35am

Can you remember when you were 21? He’s trying his best

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