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Gerry Hutch TD?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,858 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Which is Gannon, who got re-elected. Despite the assumption there were two SF seats or an FF seat and Gannon vs Hutch for the last seat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,016 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    What do you think needs done for the inner city?

    As several posters have stated, the inner city gets plenty of cash thrown at it, perhaps you just can't help those who don't wanna help themselves?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,454 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    the state of hutch on the news, surrounded by his henchmen and blanking the journalists who asked him very civil and simple questions… “ will you run again next time ? “…. He does a sort of comedy ‘run’ in response and refuses to utter a word in reply to the very straightforward questions…. If he can’t stand the heat…..

    If he ever did run again, and I was against him I’d be spamming the internet with him there in the news clip acting completely like a child.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,224 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    He is the Trump of Irish politics except here in Ireland that does not get you far if him thankfully. It's also good to see them other two lonies Clair Daly and Mick Wallace not get in either.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Jim Sheridan is a dose also. He's living in an imaginary world.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,846 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Honestly, large parts of it need to be razed. The deep seated social issues are embedded in the fabric of the city there so it needs a complete overhaul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,633 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    He'd have reseived feck all votes if polling was between 8am and midday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,088 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    From what I can see many areas of deprivation have had lots of investment in community stuff. Far more facilities there than in many a leafier area. I can't help but think that nothing will ever satisfy them, or indeed a lot of the new stuff provided will be wrecked overnight etc.

    I am going to be flamed for saying that I know. But when I look at the social housing down by Grand Canal Dock for example and elsewhere in that area, I would love for my kids to get one of them in such a prime area. But that won't happen because we pay for everything ourselves, and pay for others too.

    No problem contributing to society and to bring things up to a decent level, but I am heartily sick of the constant moaning about the lack of facilities and so on. There are plenty, but they seem to prefer jumping off the bridge into the Liffey at the Central Bank as a pastime in the Summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,969 ✭✭✭✭walshb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,969 ✭✭✭✭walshb




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭This is it


    Couldn't believe I saw Jim Sheridan promoting him yesterday, wtf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,969 ✭✭✭✭walshb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,378 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Young people in these areas need encouragement, they need to see and hear people from their areas that have done well in life, that prove work is worth it.

    If you're a kid in these areas and all you see are local drug dealers and criminals, having the best gear, laughing at the law and being the king of the area, it's hard to see another way. Particularly if there is no encouragement at home, studying can be seen as weakness and something to joke about.

    I honestly believe that people who have done well in life from these areas should go back and try to show young people that there are choices. Not voting for the local crime boss, for the craic. 🙄

    And I say this as a person who grew up in one of these areas, with separated parents, one of them worse then useless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭jsd1004


    Hutch i think was genuinely relieved. He ran out of that polling station like a March Hare. I think the idea of a structured position in society had his head spinning. He might have had to work and be accountable for once in his life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,633 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    He couldn't even explain what he was going to do to improve lives in his area if he was elected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭This is it


    What are you going to do

    Change things

    Change what

    Things

    Any specifics

    Just things

    What a clown. You'd think he'd have something rehearsed, came across incredibly thick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭hamburgham


    You will never see a community clean up day organised by residents of social housing.



  • Posts: 133 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes he did....it was whatever they wanted 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,378 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Total discriminatory nonsense, plenty of social housing estates all over the country are well kept. This type of rhetoric is what makes those people living there vote for the likes of Hutch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,831 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,715 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,016 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    He could barely form a sentence. Came across as thick as pig sh1t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,808 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,378 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I loved the bit where he had a go at Paul Reynolds for being paid “by the state”

    Where did he think his TD salary would be coming from?

    I presume he was doing all of this for the craic, as a two fingers to everyone stupid enough to live by the rules of society.

    His statement of members interests to the Dail would have been interesting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Decent people shouldn’t live there. They’d be happier someplace else.


    (Sorry, couldn’t resist the Jack Nicholson/Joker quote. 😊)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,419 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Paul Raynolds ran up to him like a mad man while at an election station and started asking irrelevant questions about court.

    It says more about Paul than Gerry as he did podcast with other journalists.

    And yes RTE Paul is only there because of RTE €750m bail out by the government. Do you think they are impartial.?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,715 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    He asked him valid questions at the opportunity that was available to him.

    And of course rte are impartial. Explain to me how they're not? At various stages of the election both sinn fein and fine gael were at rte about coverage, so that's a broad spectrum who got annoyed at some point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭Seadin


    What made people vote for this man? He couldn't answer a question.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭fiveleavesleft


    Not a fan of her but I thought Ivana Bacik's joke early in the day that "Sherlock is on the case" was cute.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    The report on the news with Paul Reynolds was gas. You're like a dying wasp you are. I'll do whatever the people want me to do. I'm going to an election, go down to the central criminal court then and talk to them about it.😂

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Not made with hands


    I hate to break it to ye but Sheridan is doing a documentary on Hutch's election bid.

    With Charlie Haugheys son.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Disagree. Some of them are gangsters. McDonald isn't. I wouldn't vote for her though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭BarryNumber1


    It's a wonder he didn't burst into song…
    "What are you going to do Gerry?
    Ah you know, things.
    What kind of things?
    Things, like a walk in the park
    Things, like a kiss in the dark
    Things, like a sailboat ride
    Yeah yeah, what about the night we cried.
    Everybody…"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,401 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I'm sure it's been discussed earlier in the thread, but what on earth was his rationale for standing in the first place? Did he think it would stop the Spanish from re-extraditing him, or keep CAB off his back, or the Kinahans from taking a shot at him? The responses from him to any questions put during the campaign or at the count would make Danny Healy-Rae look eloquent.

    I assume he's not actually an idiot given his success in his particular field but he's no politician and it's hard to see what he would gain from being a TD.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Aurelian


    According to Nicola Talent he just wanted to be a big figure in the area again, and that's as far as it went.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,242 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Here's the thing. You can be sure the Spaniards would have been reluctant to extradite and member of the Irish parliament. Just a headache they wouldn't need. They'd leave him for us to deal with happily enough.

    Also the Kinahans wouldn't go near him as a TD. I think they are reluctant enough at the moment to go after him. Christy Senior has probably reeled in Daniel and told him to stay away from publicity.

    He's not an idiot. No. He has been extremely lucky though. We shouldn't forget the heinous stuff he is linked with. It's not good enough to turn around and say "Well he hasn't been convicted".

    He'd have gained protection as a TD and you can be guaranteed he wouldn't have lifted a finger in return for the muppets who voted for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭aero2k


    It's not too many years since we had a TD collecting a convicted Garda killer from jail as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Agreed, but it's only a small % of the people that are the problem. Others are unable or unwilling to stand up to them.

    I grew up in an area similar to the north inner city but the other side of the Liffey, a stone's throw from St Teresa's Gardens (literally, on many occasions😀) and it was full of decent people. But the row of retail units facing the street were more or less barricaded, and miserable places to visit. The chemist shop effectively had no windows after multiple burglaries - this was 70's/80's. There weren't a lot of facilities in D8 (and recent Pat Kenny programs have confirmed that this is still the case, but some enthusiastic priests managed to fundraise for a youth centre which was built beside the church. It was subject to multiple arson attacks. By the time we left the area in '82 the church was closed outside mass hours - the carpet had been stolen off the alter and the donation boxes were constantly being raided.

    I'm no fan of Bertie Ahern but I heard him on Sat annunciating a list of the facilities in Dublin Central - it was a long list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    I used to work in this area. Sean McDermott St was referred to as a the Golden Mile because there was so much money being pumped into the agencies working there. That was a long time ago and my observation over a lot of years is that state funds have been poured into the area. Often locals don't want or bother to avail of the substantial facilities on their doorstep.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,969 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I disagree that it is a small percentage.

    Yes, a small amount may be involved in actual criminal acts, but a lot of the time, these same people are being encouraged, ignored, lied for, hidden, excused etc by a lot more people in these communities. It's like a team effort, and then when society (AGS) intervene they are met with hostility and resistance by plenty of people in these communities

    So it's not just the actual people who are committing crime and being anti-social: it's their friends, relatives, acquaintances that really add to, and magnify these issues, and prolong them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭aero2k


    You're absolutely right about the importance of education. I have 7 siblings, and it certainly was the way out for us. We were lucky - crammed into approx 500 sq ft, and no cash to spare, but if there was anything to do with school happening money was magically found. And, despite an understandably chaotic environment (inside and outside the house), my parents both spent time with us for educational purposes. My dad taught me to read using newspaper headlines - I was the only one of my family that couldn't write by the time I started school - my poor ma had tried to entice me with all sorts of crayons and coloured pencils, but I turned my nose up at them.

    Others weren't / aren't so lucky - it really is an accident of birth.

    What role do you think there is for policing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Agreed, I was referring to the direct trouble makers. The supporters/enablers are another problem. I do think a lot of the problem is the low-level stuff like minor vandalism not being stamped out, then it escalates, and people lose respect for law and order. But throwing money at facilities on it's own certainly won't improve matters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,969 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Was it normal for 4/5 year olds to be able to readbefore starting school? I don’t think I could read. And I don’t ever recalling my parents teaching me to before school.

    edit: you said write… not sure I could before starting school



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Edit: My da taught us our letters, my Ma did the handwriting.

    No, I don't think it was normal at all. And, while my mother had finished school, my father left around 13 or 14 and might not have gone much before that. But he was an intelligent man, he worked with educated people and he appreciated the value of education. I don't mean I was reading War and Peace or anything, but I do remember sitting on my father's knee and him getting me to point out the initial letters for me and my siblings. The writing as taught by my mother was probably just being able to write our names, but that was some achievement given she was washing clothes by hand for 10 people and cooking meals in a few shifts (we hadn't space for a table that could fit more than 4 of us, and with a wide range of ages we were coming and going at different times. Christmas Day was the only time we ate together).

    I do think though that among the majority of my schoolmates the value of education was appreciated and supported at home. Not so for the residents of St Teresa's Gardens, Fatima Mansions, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    That's a load of snobby bollocks, spoken out of pure ignorance.

    You obviously haven't the foggiest what you're talking about. Look up "Ballybough pride of place" on instagram or YT. A volunteer community group comprised almost exclusively of people living in social and affordable housing, who go around every couple of weekends tidying the place up, including after big matches and concerts in Croke Park where you end up having to deal with people pissing in your garden or puking into your planters. Just because you've never heard of them doesn't mean they don't exist.

    The rest of the bowsies give the place a bad enough name without you (and ignorant people like you), crapping all over everyone from Dublin 1 or 3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭thehairygrape




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭hamburgham




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,016 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    He was discussed on the Last Word tonight and one of the contributors said, when referencing the inner city, that several hundred people die from drug related deaths every year and if that was on the roads there'd be an uproar about it.

    Noone said who was a major supplier of the drugs though. Missed opportunity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Imaging whinging about having nothing while living in literally the centre of the city close to all and any available amenities.

    Gobsh1tes getting a bus down from Cavan every morning to pass your door to get into work for 8am. And you rolling out of bed in the afternoon and waddling down to the chipper in your pyjamas for your breakfast, moaning about how deprived you are.



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