Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

The altering of posts AGAIN

you’re suggesting it’s so bad Irish people are leaving in droves

Where did I say this????

Incorrigible and scurrilous.

You are having to lie about what has been said.
Where did I say people were leaving in droves?

You are making an ass of any credibility you had. Another departure incoming no doubt.

Fook me.

I said housing is a part of the reason people are not inclined to come here. And backed it up.

You altered that to indulge your ill judged superiority complex and decided to lecture me on something I never said.
Away up the yard and patronise somone else.

You responded with lies about what was actually said.

Scurrilous behaviour on any forum.

You said:

1. That I said people were leaving in droves.
   2. That I claimed doctors were leaving because of housing.

I said neither. You lied.
Now go read the thread properly and then comment.

if you really want to play that game,go look up the difference between’saying’ and ‘suggesting’,then re read the thread yourself if you are one bit interested in divesting yourself of trope,which I doubt

Let me add,I will not respond to trope but I will respond with fact

Fact is ,the trope you’re currently engaged in posting is your method of burying the ass handed to you on a plate today

Speaks volumes for a lack of discussion sincerity

Trope that can’t even quote me correctly too

It’s kinda funny to be given out to for mar dhea changing their words by someone who changes mine (fact)in order to accuse me of changing theirs (not fact)

Goes to insincerity and trope

Here’s the summary of today so far,that the trope being posted is trying to hide btw,in the unlikely event someone new is reading 👇

There is nothing imaginary unfortunately about the lived experience of people 50 and older who were around during the troubles

Nothing imaginary at all about the almost constant harassment of one side of the troubles by the RUC,UDR etc and listening to pompous unionist politicians like box car Willie McCrea day in day out on tv belittling the papists

To be fair,you don’t know anything about the poster in question but as a former mod of politics and as someone who knows the founders of this site,I can categorically state that the poster in question is not lying

Difficult as it is,it would be better if posts here were about the posts and not the posters and everyone here including me is inclined to fall fowl of this

It’s in the rules for a reason

I’ve said enough

https://sluggerotoole.com/2024/12/17/belfasts-transport-system-is-currently-flat-on-its-face-with-acute-congestion/

This is a good example of Sinn Fein "leadership". Belfast is a mess, they have done nothing to promote active travel.

There isn't a single example anywhere, not even a parish council, where Sinn Fein have ever been in charge, control or government, and the place has improved. Thankfully the Irish people are beginning to see the light and 22% of their voters deserted them in the most recent election.

"Nobody’s buying what he’s selling." That's what the author is saying about the SF Minister.

"It’s not helped that public faith in the Stormont institutions are rock bottom – faith in the Department of Infrastructure is in the underground car park."

This is all happening on Sinn Fein's watch. Oh I am sure that @FrancieBrady will throw his hands in the air and blame it on themuns, while @maccored will tell us it is somehow FG's fault for not pushing for a united Ireland, but this is one example of many of Sinn Fein's incompetence when they are let have a go.

The Downing Street Declaration (initiated by the Hume/Adams Initiative) paved the way for the GFA, which was the two responsible governments coming together and finally taking actual responsibility for the jurisdictions they had power in and creating the environment where an agreement could be reached.*
This involved all those (bar the DUP) taking responsibility for their parts in the conflict…all of them, not just the side you hate.

Nobody, for a second at that table, tried to make it one sides fault and that is why it succeeded.

We got lucky that a set of leaders (from PUP to UUP to SDLP to SF to the British and Irish governments) were around that table intent on ending the violence that affected BOTH sides and beyond.

It is notable that there are 2 factions not happy with the GFA as is, The DUP never endorsed the agreement and have since tried to take down the GFA. Partitionists, fearful of giving SF and nationalists any credit whatsoever have tried to parse and alter the actual history of what happened, and constantly reveal that they had fingers crossed behind their backs when voting for it's terms, but the GFA prevails above them all.

*They could have done this in 1969 and at any time in between, but that is another story.

The PIRA and their lackeys in Sinn Fein did not stop with the Downing Street Declaration. They had no part in that peace as they continued their terrorist campaign, despite their false promises of peace.

Again altering what was posted. Nobody claimed the above blanch. Nobody stopped their violence as a result of the DSD = Fact. Also a fact, Loyalists engaged in a concerted violent campaign to bring the talks and the GFA down.
The violence has still not stopped BTW.

This site lays out in easy to understand (and difficult to deny facts) steps, the roadmap to the Downing Street Declaration and what it was based on. Compromise and attitude change on ALL sides.
You will see there the massive movements made by all sides to bring about the circumstances where an Agreement could be reached.

In December 1993, the British and Irish governments produced the Downing Street Declaration which outlined their approach to peace. - BBC Bitesize

Oh nobody is trying to get you to change that view - my own stated opinion is that the violence was wrong from the very begining of it.

What you are being asked to revise is your factually wrong opinion that SF had nothing to do with the GFA. They were, as the Irish government say in the link to facts provided earlier - 'key players' and joint 'architects' of the GFA.

I condemn ALL the violence from the beginning.
Wars/conflict happen because those with the power to prevent them renege on their responsibilities and are never justifiable.
I know of no war/conflict that could not have been prevented had those with the power acted properly.
Where you are factually wrong in your post;

I have never said that I:

think the violence came from only one side

That's just another pathetic lie.

I have said, war/conflict was 'inevitable' because of what was allowed happen after partition. Which does not in any way, either 'justify' Unionist bigotry and their one party gerrymandered state or the violence that inevitably sprung from it.