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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,969 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I disagree. Posters should be aware Twitter\X is a non-moderated social media source rather than equivalent to a 'proper' source such as BBC or whatever. It should be considered a "non reputable" source, but that doesn't mean it should be banned entirely.

    Embedding \ unfurling does seem to be slow so perhaps should be looked at on technical grounds?
    But I don't see major issues with linking to Twitter\X with a summary of the content - with above caveat it is a non reputable source.

    Even if banned direct linking, would be very hard to enforce someone posting…

    I'm reading that <something something something> on social media.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    The problem with linking to Twitter isn't so much questions about the reliability of the information. The problem is that every link is supporting a literal Nazi.

    With apologies to Mr Godwin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Seattle


    There’s still a wealth of valuable information and useful legacy content on X, particularly in areas like gaming, where the platform remains popular. Unlike political spheres, which often descend into toxicity due to polarising opinions and heated debates, gaming communities tend to focus on shared interests, collaboration, and updates about games. That's just one example but there are others. I feel banning it whole would be throwing the baby out with the bath water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    Edit: - Decide against running a poll on another platform!

    ⓘ Please stop jumping to false assumptions about me!



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,308 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I'm not sure what your Edit is in reference to. I don't have a Reddit account. And have no interaction with moderators from there, that I am aware of.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    The mod of r/ireland message me on the platform and said he had not positive interactions on here with you? And was banned! And to be careful about advertising him here?

    ⓘ Please stop jumping to false assumptions about me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    there wont be as much legacy content soon as hordes of real (not bots) users are deleting accounts. with that deletion goes any of their useful content. i should know i deleted mine a week before the nazi salut.

    +1 for any ban on any forum anywhere for X/Twitter and throw in grok as well



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,308 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I did not ban him, so can't comment on that. Any interactions I have in my capacity as moderator or Admin are public and viewable by all. I'm generally fair and willing to engage with posters who post in good faith. I'm sure some decisions I make annoy some people but I'm sure that's the same for every moderator on every site!

    Again, I'm not really sure what this is in reference to, or it's relevance to your OP!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Hilarious. People don't like the owner of a platform, so want to ban useful links to content on that platform which may be relevant to contributions being made here.

    I don't use X. I don't use reddit. But to suggest banning links to these sites is petty and weak minded. What next? Ban links to articles by the likes of Gript, or Rebel News, because you don't like them?

    I often use screenshots to post content, so I would be against that.

    If the mods want an easier life, then ban the CA forum. Absolute joke over there.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,969 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Its not just Musk's political actions.

    It is what he has done with the platform... gutted moderation, making a joke of the blue tick verified accounts so now you cant trust an account is actually for the named known person, allowed bots free reign.

    Disabling the unfurl / embedding should be considered in light of that and also it can slow down boards page loadings.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    i dont know him as a person so thats not my reason.

    personally I delted my account there becuase it became an unusable rubbish platform. took way too long for me to delete my account, hoped it would improve, but eventually gave up. dont see the point of linking to anything there unless u are pointing out how bad it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    Sorry @Big Bag of Chips I was probably trolled by that mod, and he sought me out from the link to the post above. I hadn't even posted on r/ireland. Just someone trying to create problems across the platforms. That's what I get from sharing my socials I guess.

    ⓘ Please stop jumping to false assumptions about me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Seattle


    Most people with valuable content aren’t deleting their accounts. Who cares if random, nobody users drop off?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    losing 2million plus random nobody users in 2 months https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/dec/11/from-x-to-bluesky-why-are-people-abandoning-twitter-digital-town-square



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Seattle


    Out of how many millions?

    Do the Irish government for example still make announcements on the platform? Do respected publications still have a presence there?

    If so (and they do), then banning it on forums is way too premature. Maybe down the line, but not now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    @Seattle Do the Irish government for example still make announcements on the platform? Do respected publications still have a presence there?

    Unfortunately they still do! But it is a 'catch-22' situation, politicians and media are still there in the belief of getting their message across to a large audience, and user's are drawn to it because they still post there. But there is a shift on both fronts to 'Bluesky'!

    Meanwhile, the vast majority of poll respondents (66pc) believe politicians should stop publishing posts on X, formerly Twitter. Only 26pc don’t think politicians should stop using the platform and 8pts don’t know.

    The vast majority (80pc) believe X and Tesla owner Elon Musk - and other social media bosses like him - are a threat to democracy ~ https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/post-election-bounce-for-fianna-fail-and-fine-gael-but-support-for-independents-falls/a828658163.html

    Edit: -

    "We have to be there where people go for information," government spokesperson Steffen Hebestreit told reporters. "But, of course, you always have to ask yourself if the environment for it is still sustainable, and we are asking ourselves this question. So far, we have answered this by saying that the damage of withdrawing from this platform would be greater than the benefits."

    https://www.dw.com/en/as-musk-pushes-afd-german-officials-consider-ditching-x/a-71257278

    Post edited by corkie on

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,243 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Twitter was never a reputable source. In fact it's not a source at all it's a medium, big difference. And like with everything you read it's up to you to decide whether it's reputable or not. Its called media competence.

    As for he Nazi thing I 'm not so sure. Twitter used to control - heavily so according to some - what was allowed being posted. Now they do less so. How that alone makes them a Nazi thing I have no idea.

    And for the record Musk worries me. I used to think he was odd but probably alright, now I'm not so sure. But I dont think that warrants banning Twitter/X. In fact I think unless something is against the law it should not be banned. Banning is never good and achieves nothing anyway only more polarisation and less listening to each other. Look at where that got us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    What makes them a Nazi thing is Musk doing his Nazi thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,243 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    What Nazi thing is he doing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    Start from this post on this 'X' Thread and scan the last four pages of the thread!

    What Planet do you live on, that you haven't heard it been mentioned in the media?

    ⓘ Please stop jumping to false assumptions about me!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,243 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I have heard of this I've seen it and I dont like the look of it. But I need more than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,471 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    never heard of it either until this thread, not everyone is getting sucked into that American rep v dems crap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    The Musk 'Salute' is only a recent reason for people leaving the platform.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/2003157/elon-musk-inauguration-gesture

    Many people have voiced opinions on the decline of the platform and other reasons for leaving. Not going to rehash them here, but someone else might like to? Is not all just because of US politics, but a factor for some.

    As for media still using the platform, The Guardian has left, IrishExaminer post's more content on bluesky than there as well. And today:-

    Spain's most popular satirical online publication (similar to The Onion), El Mundo Today, quits Twitter and is now on Bluesky

    High ranking EU Politicians and our own President have accounts on bluesky now.

    https://bsky.app/profile/fiannafailparty.bsky.social

    See the 'eXodus/bluesky' thread for more examples.

    Edit: Was shared by me on the 'X' Thread!

    Now a >NeoNazi< platform!

    Post edited by corkie on

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭archfi


    This is a pathetic attempt to deplatform links from a platform with one of the highest engagement. I watched as the 'organic campaign' began on r/ireland (not a poster there and most definitely not a reader now) and to say it was deranged and was brigaded is to put it mildly but reddit has massive problems with this attitude. It merely cuts off one of the biggest worldwide platforms as a reference point for views and opinions and news.

    Hopefully, boards.ie won't be brigaded over the most stupid reason ever manufactured or at least this month's most stupid manufactured reason.

    Nobody reasonable wants to go back to the days of the censor like it's 2020 and nobody reasonable would be pushing for it.

    <I don't want to be bombarded with ELoN iS a NaAZziI rubbish either, I've read too much and seen too much of the current anti-whatever campaign rubbish, thank you>

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭Tork


    I don't think X links should be banned, because there are still many reputable contributors there. What I would like to see less of is link dumping from all sites. If somebody just posts a link to an article and doesn't take the time to explain why somebody should read it, I scroll on by. Bombarding a thread with half a dozen articles from everywhere does not an argument make.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭archfi


    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭TokTik


    I don’t like it so let’s ban it is a pretty weak argument.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭Tork


    I know but it still happens. Or someone posts half a dozen of them in their post and 2 lines of text.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 18,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Twitter/X is a huge medium in relation to football and Gaming (as said above) and banning this from Boards would hinder discussion on those forum. Maybe certain forums may like to ban it for various reasons but a blanket ban wouldn't work. The Soccer forum in particular is one of the more used forums on Boards and I would say the posters there would be against any such ban

    Moderator: Forum Games



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭archfi


    There should be no link ban on one worldwide platform without banning all worldwide platforms.

    It's such a redditiculous thing and it would be a pity to see it taking shape on here.

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Raichų


    generally I would say that doing the exact opposite of what Reddit (and especially r/ireland) is doing can only be a positive for boards.

    I really don’t understand why some people want boards to be more like it. It’s a shite place. You either agree with the mass opinion or you get banned— at least with boards no one’s getting banned without a generally good reason

    Edit: just to add as well; even if you’re banned here for an unfair reason you can appeal it!! They ban you on r/Ireland there’s no comeback- you’re just gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    On mobile.

    It is bigger than just r/Ireland on Reddit. Don't know where it first began. Only used that as an example.

    I'm glad I put the title as a suggestion and question and not a statement.

    I have been reluctant to post embeds from 'Xitter' for awhile. Didn't want to give more traffic. There is viable alternative for people to switch to than depending on the 'X'!

    As a 'Free Speech' advocate, I'm against banning a platform. Think I mentioned it before. Will share previous posts, when on laptop.

    Sorry on mobile, and had the sad news of my younger female first cousin (52) passing unexpectedly this morning . Still in shock, so not really in the mood to discuss this more today.

    Latest edit was to correct spellings and spacing from mobile posting.

    Post edited by corkie on

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,243 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Not too much more but tbh I dont really trawl the web for American politics snippets like some people do. So you may forgive me for not being up-to-date on every tweet Musk likes or doesnt like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Honestly I think sharing Twitter links is on a downward decline on its own so doesn't really need any intervention.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    It's OK, he visited Auschwitz to make amends for his anti-semitic tweets.

    No one expects you or anyone to keep up on every development. But if you know you're not keeping up, then maybe you're not the best person to be expressing views on this important topic.

    Like, do we really want to keep funding a Nazi?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    @CalamariFritti I don't really trawl the web for American politics snippets like some people do.

    That is the beauty of social media (not just 'X'), you don't have to be trawling the web yourself, when others do so and share the different view points. It is about being tuned in to the world that matters!

    Just for the record. Other than a few posts starting 2 months ago, I had not posted on reddit for 3 years. But still got some interesting content notifications on my phone. Check my profile, if you need to.

    ⓘ Please stop jumping to false assumptions about me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,243 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Dont get me wrong, Elon Musk should be nowhere near any station of power. Its scandalous.

    We've long since become an open oligarchy. Our politicians no longer make policies for the people. Money rules and they dont even try to hide it anymore. Democracy is becoming a farce and censorship - sorry fighting 'misinformation' - is just one angle of it. Democrats or Republicans, EPP or S&D it makes no difference, things are only going into one direction anyway. Unbridled capitalism, imperialism and sure enough fascism. Its just that one side tries a little fig leaf still while the other side doesnt even care anymore what it looks like.

    At least here in Ireland they're not the worst. The general direction is the same nothing they can do about it but at least our guys are just chancers and not out and out cvnts. Sad state of affairs when you have to take solace in that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Raichų


    damn straight Andrew. A tiny internet site that no one outside this country knows or can give two fcuks about (with the majority IN Ireland falling into that bracket) are funding NAZIS by not banning TWITTER links.

    You know what my friend- you ought to work the daily mail or similar. You’re very good at making something out of nothing.

    Let’s stop for a moment and realise one thing:

    Twitter isn’t what makes Elon rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    @Harika Where did you get that news from?

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/elon-musk-appears-video-german-far-right-campaign-event-2025-01-25/

    My source, and been feed to me on my followings:-

    ^^ Father of Matias • Soap opera fan • Reader of the Official Gazette of the Union • Human Rights Lawyer • PhD in International Law from USP • Programmer •

    "It's good to be proud of German culture, German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything," Musk said.
    Last week, the U.S. billionaire caused uproar after he made a gesture that drew online comparisons to a Nazi salute during U.S. President Donald Trump's inauguration festivities.
    On Saturday, he said "children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents, let alone their great grandparents," apparently referring to Germany's Nazi past.


    Musk spoke in favour of voting for the far right party, saying: "I'm very excited for the AfD, I think you're really the best hope for Germany ... fight for a great future for Germany," he told onlookers.
    Weidel thanked him, said the Republicans were making America great again, and called on her supporters to make Germany great again.

    Was able to understand the skeet thanks to google translate. Didn't need to trawl the web. As the saying goes '**** sinks'. But good content gets promoted!

    ⓘ Please stop jumping to false assumptions about me!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Seattle


    Not that simple really given he's pro Israeli and popular with Israeli leadership. If he was an actual Nazi then he wouldn't be pals with Jews. As ever it's more complicated. He's clearly promoted elements of the far right and he's obviously very problematic but it's hyperbolic to suggest he's an actual Nazi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    @AndrewJRenko Shared the full video of it on the 'X' Thread! <see foot comment on reason to share full clip>

    ^^ Source: - Reddit.

    I wonder will there be another spike/wave because of the 'Reddit Ban'?

    ⓘ Please stop jumping to false assumptions about me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 GAA_2025


    If Musk is a literal Nazi, then why aren't all these people proclaiming he is a Nazi, taking up arms and trying to shoot him?

    Would they have let Hitler go free aswell?

    The reality is that left wing simps always have to go with exaggerated claims.

    It was the same during covid when it was officially an endemic. The left wing simps were bullying and desperate for the WHO to call is a pandemic.

    It's never just assault, it's attempted murder.

    It's never murder, it's genocide.

    It's never right wing, it's fascism.

    As for redditors all being sheep, they won't look at their own site which is part owned by China..a bastion of human rights. No child labor or concentration camps in China, no way!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,372 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Macron did the same gesture and AOC gave a speak and had her arm out stretched but that doesn't make them a nazi. Musk is a complete odd ball and as much as I don't like him calling him a nazi is over the top, everyone knows he completely right but he'll do anything just to piss off the left. Casually calling people a nazi that clearly aren't completely diminishes the meaning of a nazi



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 GAA_2025


    They know he's not a nazi, but they also know they can try break Elon down by making stuff up.

    Truth doesn't matter.

    The left does not learn. They spent the last year saying Trump was a fascist and like Hitler yet sleepy Joe was all smiles welcoming him to the white house the other day.

    I saw some tweet with thousands of likes the other day saying Elon chose X because it's just a few modifications away from being a swastika.

    They spent the last year saying Trump was going to abandon Ukraine and hand it to Putin.

    Now that doesn't look likely and now they're saying Trump is done with Putin because he doesn't need to be re-elected and that Zelensky licked his arse and that's the only reason Trump is siding with Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,150 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Another low post new account with the Andrew Tate lingo.

    Why don't you 'simp' off back to 4chan and leave the real discussions to the adults?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 GAA_2025


    It must eat up the likes of you to know Trump is back and for the next 4 years it will be glorious. To see the heads of left wing simpletons spinning is music to my ears.

    Ban what you like. You can't ban Trump from being the headline for the next 4 years.

    I love to open the news and see Trumps picture. I am content in the knowledge that it makes people like you despair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,150 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭corkie


    I have yet to use the 'IGNORE' button on here. But if he keeps up this kind of content. I soon will!

    I hope I haven't dragged people over from reddit, to cause havoc here. By linking content!

    As mentioned earlier in thread, I believe I was trolled by the mod of r/Ireland!

    It got me curious to what the search engine put up for the tittle here, leaving out boards.ie!

    Got my attention, because sport was a mentioned by people not in favour of a Ban!

    ⓘ Please stop jumping to false assumptions about me!



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