Buying new desktop pc

John Kelly of · 18-01-2025 04:48PM #1

Hi guys I want to buy a new pc

I have been looking on paradigit but I don't really understand the specs.

Is paradigit good value? open to suggestions

I want it to be able to play any game available well for the next 10 years.

Also use it for my business, emails.

My budget is up to 2000 but if I can get the above done cheaper then great

suggestions would be welcome thanks

Coyler · 20-01-2025 11:53AM

Wait until next week. New GPUs dropping.

Also, to be able to play any game well in 10 years is not realistic. 10 years ago was 6700k and 980ti's and you'd struggle to play some AAA titles today with that hardware. ESports titles would be possible but even then you'd be hitting some limits.

John Kelly of · 20-01-2025 07:17PM

Which gpss should I be looking out for?

Coyler · 20-01-2025 10:54PM

Funny, AMD and Nvidia are playing chicken with the release date and are now into Feb/Mar. But given your price range I’d start with the 5080/5070ti card from Nvidia or the 9070 XT from AMD. We’ll post the news in the relevant threads but also present the options come the time.

Your CPU is going to be a 9800X3D if we can find one for a normal price. Let me throw together a system that will leave you room for a GPU in the budget.

John Kelly of · 29-01-2025 09:55AM

Any advice at all would be appreciated , which is the best value place to buy a ready made pc?

thanks

Coyler · 31-01-2025 12:37AM

Ah, a pre-built? Didn't quite catch that. Caseking is one option but Paradigit isn't bad either. And you can take it back with a whole lot less hassle.

I'd still hang on for the 9070XT/9070.

rob808 · 31-01-2025 01:45AM

What your budget there was rtx 5080 build for €2499 with 32 GB of DDR 5 and 7800x3d CPU on very.ie.

Gerard93 · 31-01-2025 08:03AM

Is Dell an option ??
A range of Desktops that can be configured or are they regarded here as poor value ??

2ndcoming · 31-01-2025 11:55AM

Buying pre-built PCs is generally poor value. You're in a PC Building forum at the end of the day.

Your goal to be able to play any game for the next 10 years is the issue. This is a frankly terrible time to be buying a GPU. The high end ones are monstrously expensive - your €2000 budget wouldn't even cover Nvidia's latest and greatest graphics card alone.

The only people who need to consider this kind of expense are those who want to only play games at 1440p or 4k at over 100 frames per second. If you only have a 1080p monitor - which is still the standard resolution - you have many more options. Buying a 1440p monitor is one of the biggest cost factors in building a gaming PC. They only cost a little more than 1080 ones but they require much more expensive components to run games on well.

If I was you I would look into building an AM5 based PC. This is AMD's latest platform and it will most likely be their platform for the next 4 or 5 years. An affordable CPU like the Ryzen 5 7500F is perfect to get you going. Then if you want you can upgrade your CPU in 4 or 5 years without having to get a whole new PC.

For the graphics card you will find something totally capable of playing current games at high settings at 1080p for €300-400. And like the CPU, you will be able to swap that out to a newer, more powerful one in 4 or 5 years.

All in this should cost you in or around €1000.

It's a far cheaper and more fun way of getting into PC gaming, and it's a lot easier to do than it sounds.

Coyler · 31-01-2025 12:02PM

For Gaming? Not usually. Lenovo is usually better than Dell but you'd have to grab a deal to get good value. A big problem will Dell is that the seem quite tied to Intel CPUs (probably a deal where Intel offers a discount but in return don't sell AMD CPUs) and that is far from ideal. Also, any decent GPU seems to be reserved from the Alienware builds which are very expensive if improving.

And another common problem with the big names is that they use parts built for them specifically making any upgrades or repairs a pain. Lenovo isn't too bad for this but Dell are well known to be dreadful at it right down to non-standard screw heads. But given the right price these issues can be overlooked.

Genernally for good value gaming builds Paradigit, Caseking and AWD-IT (forgot them) are all reasonable and also do stock clearance often enough on very capable machines. Also, they tend to be built from off the shelf parts making them a lot simipler to deal with and makes it easier to know exactly what you are getting.

KilOit · 31-01-2025 02:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123118916#Comment_123118916

This legit? that's insane value. I have everything for new build without GPU and parts came close to 2k that's with best of everything but OP this machine is perfect for the budget

https://www.very.ie/stormforce-crystal-gaming-desktop-geforce-rtx-5080-intel-core-i7-12700f-32gb-ram-2tb-ssdnbspmontech-king-95-case/1601132616.prd

Coyler · 31-01-2025 02:28PM

Jesus, that is crazy good value. Didn't see that above. Note one in the Intel 12 gen and one is the better 7800X3D. But not like the i7-12700 wouldnt serve you very well for years.

Sorry, didn't notice earlier @rob808. Our similar love for Grimlock threw me off :). Don't want to nit pick but I'd be with KilOit about how legit it would be.

https://www.very.ie/stormforce-crystal-gaming-desktop-geforce-rtx-5080-amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-32gb-ram-2tb-ssdnbspmontech-king-95-case/1601132615.prd

Coyler · 31-01-2025 02:53PM

Price now change dto €3,724.99. Something odd there.

K.O.Kiki · 31-01-2025 05:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123120382#Comment_123120382

Hope anyone who bought it at the original price still gets their order honoured.

But as we've seen in the past few years, retailers are chancers.

rob808 · 31-01-2025 05:07PM

it more likely it sold out think there was 3 stormfont pc the price might also just went up since there charging mad money for a RTX 5080 that just 8% faster than a RTX 4080 super.

Prisoner6409 · 01-02-2025 01:01PM

I am also in the first stages of building a new PC, my biggest issue has been getting the components I want or if they are available the components I want have shot up in price in the last few months, it's a nightmare.

John Kelly of · 01-02-2025 02:53PM

Thanks, is this a good option?

Paradigit Gaming Advanced AMD

Expected delivery: 4 - 5 working days

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
32 GB DDR5 RAM
1 TB NVMe SSD
Windows 11 Home
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti - 8 GB

3 year warranty + free Paradigit mousepad

1,399

coolguyrko · 02-02-2025 10:39AM

I know youre looking at pre built but buying separately and assembling yourself is the way to go. I just finished up my first build in 10 years last night. Cost around €2k. A few minor hiccups in the build process but nothing you tube or reddit couldnt fix. Even asking on here youll get a lot of helpful advice.

I dont have much experience pre built but it is really worth trying to build yourself. I was hesitant but not so bad in the end.

I wouldnt recommend the 4060 purely on the 8GB VRAM. Just going to get dated pretty quickly. I think 16GB is starting to nearly become standard now

Coyler · 02-02-2025 05:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123123442#Comment_123123442

Compare it to this build I threw together

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/7FFH8Q

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€209.65 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (€153.89 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€127.89 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€65.85 @ reichelt elektronik)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (€541.37 @ Caseking)
Case: Montech XR ATX Mid Tower Case (€68.89 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€63.89 @ Caseking)
Total: €1231.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-02-02 17:32 CET+0100

Throw in delievery and a Windows key from a some after market store and you are getting close to €1.3k so I suppose a 10% markup isn't dreadful when you consider opportunity costs invovled with building.

However, for €1.4k I'd go for this model all day log -

https://www.paradigit.ie/paradigit-x-msi-gamer-apollo/80065853/product/9462

CPU is slightly older but 8 cores, which is going to become important, and high L3 cache for gaming. And the 4070 Super is significanlty better than the 4060ti.

It's all moot as I'd do neither and wait for the 9070XT launch. Could be a disaster but Nvidia dropped their prices right before launch of the 5070/5060 model and we are all waiting to see what AMD will do. Your money could very well be going a lot farther come mid March.

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