BMW i4

Nothing at all wrong with Toyo tyres.

3 sets worn in 40k km is serious. Toyo probably not too long lasting but couldn't be alot worse that what you have had.

yes I can’t understand it as normally I’m not hard on tyres.

Are you still in an i4?

yes

I’ve had the tracking done after every tyre change. If these don’t last I’ll maybe see if there’s something up in the car itself. You all seem to be getting much longer out of tyres.

I was in local BMW dealer today and had an interesting chat with sales manager.
He said there’s virtually no new market for the i4 and i5. Only Ev’s they are selling are those eligible for grant.

People are buying phev at the upper end. Best seller this year is the X5 50e followed by 530e.

330e not selling in any great numbers as when you add a few extras it’s too close in price to the base 530e. He said they have lobbied BMW to bring down the price of i5 but they’re not interested.

They have two 231 i4 m50’s so not interested in my car as a trade in at the moment unless I’m prepared to take bottom money for it.

A bit depressing as an i4 owner but I really wouldn’t go back to a phev or combustion unless a very special car.

I’m thinking though my next car will be a used EV

Your car is beautiful colour combo. Would fly out of dealer I'd say but they want it all their own way on trade in prices.

Are you stuck on the premium brands for your next car? I've always had bmw mainly and then my last ice car was an Audi so I was really interested in where thet were going with ev but they're not really offering much above other brands. I liked my etron but i wanted something with more spec, the stuff it was missing is criminal, but I wouldn't blame anyone new for not extensively ticking the options boxes.

I'm happy now with my 2 cupras, to buy now brand new they would be about 90k, 53k for the tavascan and 37k for the born, tavascan is absolute top spec at that price. Another 5k gets you a born vz now. 326bhp for 42k.

And I could do the same with a vw id3 and id4, even an id7, a skoda elroq and enyaq, a kia ev6 and an ev3, 2 cars from other brands too, byd seal and an atto, all for the price of a single i5 or a6 etron etc which probably would still be missing a lot. And chasing bmw and Audi up the years was looking like it was going to be just far too expensive.

What I'm saying is there's still really good cars available outside of where I would have usually shopped. If you'd told me 5 years ago I'd be genuinely interested in a kia or would actually be driving 2 tarted up SEAT cars I'd have laughed at you. But here I am!

I think it’s hard to move away from the i4 m50, I’m not seeing much else out there that would tempt me. I was also watching some videos on the S6 etron and if it didn’t cost €130k to spec up it would be a lovely car. But then an M5 touring doesn’t cost much extra. I don’t see myself buying brand new next time anyway, depreciation is a total killer on the brand new cars and I’ll just wait till my PCP is up in two years and pick up the €130k cars someone is buying new today for a lot less.

I put rear tyres on mine recently as one of the rears blew out, I didn’t realise how bad it had worn on the insides, was lucky I was driving in the city when it happened and not on motorway. I put back on the same P Zeros again, ended up at €370/tyre but I had no choice as tyre was totally flat and the sealant kit was losing pressure very quickly so would have had to get it towed if I didn’t change them at the nearest tyre place. Also got her first service after two years old which was about €370 so definitely keeping her another while now 😜

This was where the conversation went in BMW dealer yesterday. There is no comparable car out there that combines the performance, grip, comfort and practicality of the i4 for reasonable money. I always get itchy feet after a couple of years with a car but can't see anything that does much better in the EV world.

The sales manager said they feel values of i4 will not go down much in the next year or two so advised holding on.

I have driven the polestar 2 performance model and it is not a match for the i4 in any department it opinion.

same here, €370/corner - i got four branded tyres on my sons fiesta a few weeks ago for €375 🙄 (which made me spend an evening looking at ST3 prices and wondering why I don’t have one)

370 a corner? I put 4 oem replacement Bridgestone altenzas on our Etron, 21 inches, for just over 1k incl 4 wheel alignment a few weeks back!

me neither. They are now very bad value when you look at the current price list and they have removed a lot of what was standard kit from them.

With so few i4’s sold after a peak in 2023 I suppose they should retain most of their value going forward.