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Im paying crazy tax every month on my wages

  • 04-02-2025 3:04pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭


    Im a single person and I pay crazy taxes each month on my wages. Taxes are ranging from 2.5k to 4.5k a month. People tell me 'oh because you are single you are getting taxed a lot'!! Thats just bull, because I'm single Im penalised. Its not fair. Is there any way I can pay less tax?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    You could marry a stay-at-home partner or work fewer hours! Or both.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭boosabum


    AVCs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭pjdarcy


    Welcome to Ireland. Maximise your pension contributions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭JamBur


    Are you saying the amount of deductions is 2.5 to 4.5k, or that your income is that range?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,402 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,286 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Good. My Ozempic and PrEP drugs don't pay for themselves. Also, I need a new washing machine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭JamBur


    This seems like either a Walter Mitty or a humblebrag. Looking at your post history, you seem to have had a remarkable turnaround in your circumstances. Fair dues to you if you have.

    As others have said, pension AVCs are a readymade vehicle for you to minimise tax liability. At your claimed income level, you should consult a professional.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Allinall




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,864 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Pensions are the best way to reduce taxable income. You can buy property with your gross income through a pension fund.

    Alternatively moving out of PAYE and becoming a contractor where you can write off certain expenses at gross deduction is the most beneficial but may not be viable depending on industry



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭AnnieinDundrum


    high earners pay a lot of tax.

    Being married doesn’t change that. There isn’t an automatic tax saving by being married. That only happens where one earns less (or indeed zero ) and you allocate the lowers bands and TFA across the two of you.

    AVCs so you can retire early are your best bet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,166 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    But you shouldn't be paying 2.5k one month and 4.5k the next. For that to happen, your wages one month would have to double from another.

    I'm suspecting not everything in this thread is true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭pjdarcy


    You could get married but you might find that spouses can be expensive too 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,476 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Welcome to Ireland! You're deemed rich here over 44k... now, I'd say at 44k in this country you're a poverty case, but we have a welcome the world policy, world's best welfare state... the office of public waste. Someone has to pay for the **** show. Hey, at least we have world class infrastructure and health service funded by high earners like yourself and the tax haven we are..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭AnnieinDundrum


    your earnings must vary a lot.


    you can pay less by earning less but it’s worth checking that it’s calculated correctly

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/jobs-and-pensions/calculating-your-income-tax/tax-rate-band.aspx



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,476 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Whack up your payslip there (identifying details redacted, of course) and I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of this in no time…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,933 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Subscribing to this thread after this comment.

    👀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,933 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Oh and to answer the OP - if you pay that much tax you earn a good salary. Your tax is the cost of being a member of society, be happy you are paid enough that this is your tax contribution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne


    Would love for them to do this, but it's hard to upload imaginary payslips.

    No one is paying the disparity each month in tax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    switch to the black economy and you will be sorted



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,183 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666


    why would I lie on an anonymous forum, what nutcase would do that! Im a contractor so I dont get paid for holidays so Im guessing the big change is when I had my summer hols and xmas hols. Also I submit expenses such as new phones, ipads, laptops etc to bring my tax down ( not by much ).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    No one will be able to assist you in any real manner without more information. Namely what is your gross salary? Do your earnings keep fluctuating? Did you recently start the job? Have you other sources of income? Have you reviewed your latest tax credit certificate to see how your tax credits and rate band are allocated?

    I'm assuming at the deduction levels you are talking about, you are on nearly €100k annually assuming your tax credits and rate band are allocated correctly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666


    im not disputing my payslips are wrong, I checked with my accountant last year and they are correct he said. I was only wondering if I could pay less in some way… as someone said pensions which may help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666


    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666


    imaginary payslips… you boards people are gas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666


    you looked at my post history?? You have too much time on your hands lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    If you have an accountant then I'm assuming you aren't just a standard PAYE employee. If you wish assistance of any real value, you are going to have to provide more details of your circumstances as everyone's tax position is unique to them. What has your accountant said about reducing your tax liability?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,286 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    If you have an accountant then they should be able to advise on your circumstances and needs. I only know about PAYE ... and with that myaccount (revenue online) let's me check I'm getting all my deductions I can. Citizens Advise has a load of help here too, a more friendly version of revenue docs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666


    they told me to claim more expenses but once you claim a new phone, laptop etc etc there isnt much left to expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭JamBur


    Factfinding and verifying online is essential these days. 2 minutes to click on a profile and look at titles of previous threads gives big insight into a posters plausibility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    BS thread really

    2k of a difference say for 3 months so that 6k of tax or 12k of earnings that are absorbed by laptops and phones.

    Nice work if you can get it.

    Over and out

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,424 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    In fairness, some top salespeople who get big commissions may have disparities like that, when they have a particularly good month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    The flip side of that is perks that sometimes come with employment (i.e. employer contributions to salary - I've had as little as 3% to as much as 16%) and insecurity of working as a contractor. I found it was easier to find things to write off (eg monthly or 10 journey tickets for transport rather than having to tie in for the entire year) as a contractor. But in the end I ended up paying as much tax because I was earning about 30-40% more anyway.

    Go with AVCs or lump sum into pension, it will reduce your tax liability and you pay less tax once you're over 65.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    So you are self employed then with varying income each month it would appear. So given the likely product you are selling is yourself, then you have very little in the way of business expenses for deductions. You are back to ensuring you are maxing out your pension contributions as a tax deferral mechanism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Allinall


    If the OP is self employed, why are they paying tax every month?

    An awful lot doesn't add up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne


    But we know that this is not the case for the OP. As mentioned previously by another poster and a quick look yourself you will see that they have had a remarkable turnaround in your circumstances for this to be in anyway true.

    They say they've an accountant but decide to ask random people on the internet for financial advice that they're already paying someone for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,297 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Get a PRSA.

    As a contractor the tax you pay is about a third of your income. That is a fact of life unfortunately.

    Coming on here and saying "I pay crazy tax" is a bit of a humble brag.

    If you console yourself with the fact you will always pay about a third of your income in tax, you get over it quicker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,297 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Perfectly plausible, just poorly worded in his opening post.

    600 daily rate = 3k a week = 12k a month. 33% of tax is 4k.

    If he goes on holiday for 2 weeks, he doesnt get paid for holidays, so his payslip is 6 k gross, tax is 2k. Net is 4K.

    OP should go talk to his financial advisor, not humblebrag on boards.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    Exactly. I do my taxes once a year, summing up all the income and deducing all the expenses as needed. The OP may be saying that if the taxes were paid monthly, then the amounts would vary?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,297 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    No, the OP is a contractor with an umbrella company and pays PRSI and income tax every month. He is not self employed as in his own company. He is looking at his pay slip seeing the disparity in tax but doesnt seem to understand why the context is important.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,166 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    He's paying a crazy amount of tax because he's earning a crazy amount of money.

    In the great scheme of things, he is paying the equivalent tax as someone earning half of what he is. It's all relevant.

    Unfortunately we all have to pay tax. Earn more, pay more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    This place is full of people lying about incomes. You should see any threads about income levels and you'd estimate the average boards user earns in around 200k a year. But vast majority is spoofs.

    Why did you post you're paying crazy tax if you already pay an accountant you could ask and then refuse any further info for people to give you an answer apart from bragging about big income.

    Give an example there....redacted payslip, even just some income figures and deductions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    loads of people pay that disparity in tax, mainly commission based, especially in companies where commission is paid bi monthly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666


    true, i should not have posted here. Thanks for confirming that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    You don't spent much time around here do you? There's more bullshit here than on a farm. You said you have an accountant so what does asking a bunch of strangers online tell you that the accountant cant?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666


    Im not humble bragging, im anonymous, what have I to gain here?? Weird people think Im bragging when no one knows me. Also not sure why everyone assumed Im a he, Im a she actually.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666


    my wages

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Slick666


    i was asking for ways to pay less tax, bloody hell. wish i never bloody asked now.



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