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Best place to buy fresh and good tasting/healthy fish?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,766 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Make them yourself. Real easy. With none of the extra added shite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    That article is 5 years old and it specifically mentions "off bottom" caught/farmed scallops. The vast majority of fresh scallops sold in Ireland are dredged, to my knowledge. Unless you know for sure that they're farmed (and are happy to eat farmed seafood), I'd be staying away.



  • Administrators Posts: 55,009 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Pretty much all prawns you buy in supermarkets are farmed in Asia.

    I am fairly sure that the only prawns you can buy fresh in Ireland that are Irish and not farmed are Dublin Bay Prawns, which aren't actually prawns at all. But I don't think I have ever seen these in a supermarket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,340 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Occasionally, I've seen Dublin Bay Prawns (actually langoustines or small lobsters) at Dunnes fish counter, but it is not regularly stocked.

    Dunnes at fish counter sell prawns described as "wild atlantic prawns".
    "Caught using gillnets or similar nets in the SW Atlantic."https://www.dunnesstoresgrocery.com/sm/pickup/rsid/231/product/dunnes-stores-fishmonger-wild-atlantic-prawns-220g-id-100228676

    LIDL have these in sometimes, frozen.

    Argentinian prawns, wild caught in the SW Atlantic:

    https://groceries.aldi.ie/en-GB/ALDIIE/p-raw-peeled-argentinian-prawns-250g-specially-selected/4088600277233

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    Any thoughts on these links, 2nd opinions?

    Legit non-farmed prawns?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭tamara25


    interesting topic, what about the likes of John West wild salmon that comes in tins? There is pink & red salmon. Is this really wild?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Like “Kitchen Nightmares”…..

    ……..is it fresh, ask the chef?

    ……..yes, fresh…….fresh frozen……😀😀😀



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Hake bought yesterday…….

    IMG_1646.jpeg IMG_1647.jpeg

    it’s great……



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭feckwunker


    A lot of half truths and misunderstandings being posted here.

    1. You need an angling licence depending on what species you intend to target. Salmon and sea trout require licenses and local waters will have some restrictions also. Typically you do not need a license for sea angling but there is a closed season on bass, there are some species which you cannot keep (e.g. angel shark, white and flapper skate) and there are some species which you cannot even target without authorised skippers e.g. bluefin tuna.
    2. Trawling does indeed cause disturbance on the seabed but the extent of it depends on the nature of the ground being trawled. Fish caught over rough bottoms (such as monkfish) are fished for using larger bobbins on the net foot rope which allow the net to skip over the bottom easier. Dredging for scallops is probably the most impactful method of fishing, short of dynamite and cyanide on a reef. The most efficient and "environmentally friendly" methods of commercial capture of fish/shellfish are pots, pelagic trawls (not without its issues mind you) but what you should be looking for is fish caught using a Danish/Scottish seine. This method eliminates trawl doors, reduces fuel consumption on the boat and results in much better quality catch and reduced bycatch. Some trawlers also employ the use of specially designed nets employing escape panels or Swedish grids to reduce bycatch but as far as I am aware, there is no way of knowing this based on the packaging (this is an issue which should be addressed as you could attach a premium to fish caught using these methods which would encourage others to follow suit).
    3. Sea bass, bream and 99% of salmon sold here is farmed, typically outside the country. This is due to the fishes biology, national measures in place to protect the stocks (bass and salmon) and low native stock levels.
    4. Wild fish are indeed caught and used in feed for farmed fish. However, the conversion factor is much, much better these days. It used to be 1 to 2kg of wild fish required to grow 1kg of farmed but that is now under a ratio of 1:1 as the science has got better and alternative like soy are used to bulk out the feed.
    5. Like it or not, farmed fish are here to stay with global demand constantly rising.
    6. "Fresh" fish may have been sitting on ice for up to 10 to 14 days before you buy it from your local fish monger.
    7. The laws on packaging here need to be revisited - much of the hake sold in Lidl/Aldi is sourced in South Africa but is packaged in Ireland so can therefore be packaged with the label "Produced in Ireland" on it. People see this and assume it is Irish fish when it's really from the other side of the world.

    Your best fish is going to be local but make sure you ask the questions. The best stuff is expensive but worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,416 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Some cracking advice here.

    … to add… there can be good deals in the Asian markets too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,340 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Alaskan Pollock seems to be caught at sea, not farmed, and is commonly used in (frozen) fish fingers. Check out Dunnes own brand ones, a fraction of price of branded ones like Birdseye.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,090 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Yes it's sourced mostly from Alaska and caught wild. Pretty much zero bycatch due to the way the fish are caught by purse seiners targeting specific shoals of salmon, usually within bays. Fish farming is illegal in Alaska.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    Looks good.

    Did you use a steamer for the potatoes, sprouts and fish?

    I assume the slaw was store bought?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Coleslaw was home made. Spuds boiled and mashed. Fish pan fried. Sprouts boiled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    Mind me asking the recipe for the coleslaw?

    Did you use a mandolin?

    How long would that typically stay good for once made?

    I freaking love coleslaw, but wonder whether the calories make it worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    lol, my mind automatically defaults to, "how was this done as quick and easily as possible".

    But there was a good amount of elbow grease behind that meal.

    Wondering does anyone use steamers now-a-days also?

    Knew a dude who made all his meals in a steamer, just cooked the different parts in layers, it was like a "tower" steamer.

    Tasted great and super easy to cook, and super healthy.

    That coleslaw though……… great addition.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Carrot/white cabbage, chopped with a knife. Home made mayo, salt n pepper. Good for up to a week I reckon? There is a tablespoon of Hoisin sauce in that mix (Chef from a Dublin 5 🌟 hotel told me to try it) 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    Farmed vs wild salmon, benefits, drawbacks.

    Good perspective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    When you say home made, did you prepared the dressing/mayonnaise yourself too?

    I don't like the idea of ingesting all that rapeseed oil so wanted to prepare some mayo with olive oil.

    Is it really just a raw egg blended with some oil, a little sugar, spice and mustard?



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Made the mayo.

    Egg yolk. Vinegar, Dijon, lemon juice, salt, pepper, veg oil. On YouTube everywhere. I used a hand whisk. 2/3 minutes. Gratifying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Why are you avoiding rapeseed oil? If you've bought into that whole "seed oils are toxic"stuff, the evidence has shown that largely to be untrue and it was only ever really a concern with regards to superheated (like, commercial/catering temps) oils anyway.

    I know you're very new to the whole "food as a lifestyle thing", so here's a bit of friendly advice: interrogate your sources thoroughly when you're doing any reading, particularly online, and be very scooby dubious about anything written from a US perspective - their entire food system, from farm/field to fork, is vastly different to ours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Lots of wannabe influencers seem to enjoy having a go at Rapeseed oil. I think they're copying each other, you see them walking isles of supermarkets on sociaks. There are some excellent Irish rapeseed oils out there which I'd rather use than EV olive oil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    I'll always have a good EVOO in the cupboard, but from a food miles perspective alone, I'll always go for Irish rapeseed as my everyday oil.



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