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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Seems to be a shady character who hung around with gang members

    That is why this is an extremely important test case for everyone; The GOP administration are coming under some questioning and scrutiny on this but nothing the usual bluffing and Trumps use of a photoshopped image can't handle.

    The "seems to be a shady character" is enough of a pill to swallow for some to justify this and that's all the administration need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭Economics101


    You are talking total MAGA bo**ox. You don't have to look very far for mud which should rightfully stick to Trump. His incitement of the January 6th mob is there for all to see. His call to Brad Raffensberger to find him a few thousand votes in Georgia is also there for all to hear. The real evidence against this dangerous, vindictive clown is overwhelming. Of course the Trump administration has attempted to suppress the evidence produced by Jack Smith, which you cannot undo just by putting someone like Kash Patel in charge of the FBI.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,679 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    If it was sufficient grounds to be put in a prison, then there's more than enough evidence against Trump that he should be languishing in a jail cell right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,746 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    The administration literally said they deported him in error



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    Or you could say their policies have been completely exposed for the failures they are and they have no clue what to do now. Their main policies - Open borders and globalisation have been completely exposed by Trump. It will be fascinating now as they won't change and accept the vote of democracy, and just like this thread call people stupid and try change them without realising many reject their vision.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,661 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT HE ALLEGEDLY DID (see, I can do capslock too), what matters is that everyone is entitled to due process. It doesn't matter if he is a piece of ****. It doesn't matter what he is alleged to have done. If people can get not only deported but thrown into a permanent jail - yes its permanent, the people in that jail do not get out - just because he doesn't 'seem like' a good person, then where will it stop?

    I gather he is in a different jail now, but it is only assumed that the rest of the people rounded up were guilty of gang membership and crimes. Bring them back, try them, then if they are guilty, deport or imprison them (or both). But they can't go around gathering up random people and exporting them with no due process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭threeball


    He became President by talking shìt which i already gave him credit for. He's useless at it like everything else he's ever done but he's a world class waffler.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,019 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Not necessarily.

    4 years of being proven correct is how I'm looking at it.

    An easy approach given the performance of the administration.

    How're you dealing with having been wrong?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,560 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    He's not though. He even had to have English translated recently. His base are just that stupid and hateful that he gets away with it.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭threeball


    Maybe we have different definitions of waffling but to me it would be talking forever without ever making a point or any sense. I think he does that pretty well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    A moderator calling 49.8% of the American electorate stupid and hateful is disappointing if not alarming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,158 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    It has nothing to do with the tariffs; it relates to a change in the threshold above which imports have to be declared and have duties applied (or not, depending on the product). In this regard, the US is following in the EU's footsteps - we imposed more or less the same conditions on our non-EU trading partners four years ago and guess what: they all fell into line with barely a ripple felt by those of us who prefer to buy our cheap Chinese crap directly from the Chinese instead of Jeff Bezos.

    As far as Temu, Shein, Alibaba/express are concerned, because they already had to modify their platforms to sell into the EU, it'll cost them nothing to include the US … but I'm sure the timing of the annoucement and the price rises will have been carefully planned to make sure their American customers make a connection with Trump's carry-on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,746 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    But still, the importer pays the duty

    If I order something above the threshold from China I'll get a charge from the courier

    They don't increase the price as well!

    Unless it means they're collecting the duty and paying it on the consumer's behalf? In which case its not a price increase its a separate charge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,866 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You're the importer though. Dunno how they'll sell anything if there's a 125% tariff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Bit premature to be saying that you will be proven correct especially when you were wrong on pretty much everything in your election predictions.

    Trump has barely served 1/16th of his tenure, its very early days yet.

    Its been a very volatile 3 months, errors were made lessons learned.

    Still along way to go, its hard to see the wood for the trees with the flooding of the zone, its overwhelming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Suckler




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,519 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    We're only into the start of his tenure and he's collapsed the US economy,collapsed 401ks, destroyed relationships with allies and destroyed the global standing of the US. It's not a sign of a master strategy, it's making the US irrelevant on a global scale. The fact this is how his term has started is a sign of things to come, not some anomaly. Labeling leveling the US economy as errors is ignoring stupidity and insider trading on the back of it for that matter. At what point is he gonna start doing a good job? How high will the cost of living be at that point? It's so very telling that you and others have chosen to avoid this thread. Iirc within a few days you were pretty happy to claim he was doing great, just cause he signed some executive orders but it doesn't count when he does atrociously? I'm also pretty confident if Biden was making such a mess, you wouldn't be so silent. You'll probably blame Biden for a recession or claim it's some genius move on Trump's part.

    It's a little over 32% of the US population that voted for Trump, I'd say a substantial portion of them were voting for him based on hatred, stupidity or self interest to the point of missing the fact they'd be a victim of his policies. The relevance of Capaill being a moderator is pretty beside the point. Also just a reminder, plenty of his base are going "oh ****" after realizing the consequences of his policies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Suckler


    I'd be more alarmed by you're misunderstanding and misrepresentation of their post to be honest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,045 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    So you think Trump will accept his mistakes and change course?

    Based on what? There is nothing in Trumps history to bade this on. It's nothing more than hope.

    But is it telling that you acknowledge how awful Trumps performance has been to date.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I have avoided the thread recently for a number of reasons. Work commitments being the primary one.

    I havent had the time to keep up with even a fraction of all of the developments in Trumpworld. Its pretty much a full time job keeping up to date with what Trump has been doing since he took office. Despite what you and others believe I am not following everything Trump does 24/7.

    I've largely tuned out as the flooding of the zone is overwhelming by design and has had the desired effect of causing perpetual outrage in the media and online.

    Any time I have looked at the thread, there were hundreds of new posts, and I neither had the time nor interest to be honest to get up to speed.

    I need to catch up on with whats been going on, but its early days yet in the term of office, I think 6 months is probably the earliest I would evaluate the performance, but so far it hasnt been good from what I can see. Trying to do too many things too quickly and its been chaotic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,519 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Him collapsing the US economy is flooding the zone? That's absolute nonsense and trying to blame it on the media just sounds like you dodging how terribly he's handling things at the moment. If the markets were doing great, you'd be marking it as a success but since they're not, you're avoiding even mentioning them...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,045 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    You can't keep up with what is going on in worldwide politics but an AG being potentially commiting fraud and you not only are on top that but felt it was worth posting to a thread you are not reading?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭yagan


    It's not hard to keep up as "every day is table flip day" in the White House.

    The only certainty is that whatever any previous US government supported Trump is against it, except of course genocide in Gaza.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,560 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Where did I mention half the electorate? I was talking specifically about Trump's base.

    The determination of some to get slighted on behalf of MAGA is not something I understand to be honest.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    It appeared in my news feed and I deemed it worthy of interest.

    As I previously said, it was James's and Braggs obsession with trying to pin something on Trump and taking the flawed cases that was a huge catalyst for Trumps election campaign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,019 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I said I thought Harris would win, but wouldn't be surprised given 2016 if she didn't. How what was that wrong?

    I listed ten examples of how Trumps admin has been a disaster yesterday, all things you accused Biden of being guilty of for the last 4 years.

    By all means, respond to that post and tell me which of the things I'm wrong about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,015 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Cherry picking "stories" while using the Wenger defence of "I didn't see the tackle" when questioned about a penalty.

    It's very clear what's going on.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    It is hard to keep up as there is so much going on.

    Sure you can keep up by turning on the radio or tv and listening to the anti Trump propaganda being spewed out on a daily basis.

    But to actually study these issues in detail is time consuming and complicated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,519 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The global economy collapsing because of Trump flipping day to day on tariffs isn't worthy of your interest? Honestly for a guy supposedly interested in global politics, you only seem to be interested in Trump's enemies... It's pretty clear you've simply avoided what reflects terribly in Trump.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭yagan


    There's no point in trying to understand detail as guaranteed Trump hasn't spent any time really understanding his whims, which he is as likely to reverse or doubledown on the next day.

    The worlds markets drew a line under this admin once they saw in White House print that Trump was tariffing penguins.

    This is real Mugabe territory.



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