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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 MrMusician18
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    He's just another grifter that happens to lean the same way as I do on DJT.

    Churning out the 10min vids several times a day, all with less depth than a puddle is simply monetising frustration for his own benefit. Trump I suspect has been very profitable for them.

    Nothing against online commentary but when it consists of a NYT headline followed by effectively the same rant to fill the ten minutes, doesn't make you feel informed or further opposition which he ostensibly supports. All the while doing so on a platform whose CEO backed Trump.

    But got to get to 5m subscribers. Don't forget to like and comment and of course check out the merch store.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    I reckon that's the way to go for governments now, private meetings as the Trump team can't be trusted not to make any meeting an ambush to sate the rabid true believers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,889 aloyisious
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    I can put my Euros to better use, even with the exchange rate, than buying US related EU tariffed electioneering material. We do have similar "churn out the video" people here in Ireland, though they haven't got to the merchandising yet. I might look at the exchange rate US$ V the Euro though to see if I can profit in buying some $ and selling them on again at a profit when the 48th is elected and Trump has been "de-selected" again by the US public.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,736 looksee
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    Anyone who can claim that the SC decision 9 - 0 against was a win is not going to be argued with. And the cult will believe it was a win. There is no way to prove anything to people who do not want to know.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,396 PropJoe10
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    It's a cult, plain and simple. Not unlike Jim Jones and the People's Temple, or David Koresh in Waco Texas that time. The worst thing is that the cult now seems to involve over half of the US voting population. It's incredibly disturbing and saddening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,349 Strazdas
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    One possibly encouraging thing is that Trump is an old man. If he was 45 or 50, he would arguably be much more dangerous as we could be facing into 30+ plus years of Trumpism.

    I'm not sure I buy the idea that Vance will be Trump 2. He clearly is a personality vacuum and is uncharismatic - hard to see how he could ever have a cult like following.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    It's still less than half the electorate, more people didn't vote than voted for Trump.

    No doubt many now rue not voting.

    It does feel full cult this around as there isn't as many actual Republicans around him as in the first term.

    It's still hard to gauge how many are full personality cultists and how many are just full maga, or how many are both.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 Leroy42
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    It won't matter. Once Trump has effectively crossed the line of democracy the next leader is whomever the party decides it will be and the people will be told to like him. The likes of Fox etc will then flood the zone with stories about how amazing and normal Vance actually is and anyone that says otherwise is part of the Fake News.

    Popularity or charisma has nothing to do with, apart from allowing one to climb the ranks within the party.

    Trump has crossed that line. He is ruling without any input from Congress or the Senate and is ignoring SCOTUS. Nothing now to stop him for calling an emergency and doing an executive order to postpone the elections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 BP_RS3813
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    Jaysus you have my deepest sympathies.

    They can't even pick a sacraficial lamb right. If I was the trump team looking at someone who people would not object to being sent away without due process then I'd pick someone with a bit more then two criteria in mind (in this case, just some small tattoos and being mexican) - he also has kids and a family??. Could easily find some gangbanger who is a convicted murder who looks like those twin salamanca brothers in breaking bad and has no family but they choose Garcia?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 extra gravy
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    Hope he wore his best eyeliner for the occasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,349 Strazdas
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    I'm not convinced Vance could command anywhere near the level of cult like status Trump has. He's just a boring politician, nothing out of the ordinary about him, not a particularly interesting orator or interviewee.

    Notice how support for the Tories in the UK totally fell away once their hero Boris Johnson faded from view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 bog master
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    I know the feeling. Brother in US since late teens-now a citizen, retired law enforcement. As different in all aspects to me as can be imagined. When I visit,NO politics discussed and have to watch Fox News.

    What floored me,on a FBook discussion my sister sent on to me—I am not on FB. Himself and his partner trashing DEI with all the usual lies, people should get jobs only on merit. Their daughter is mmm, I would say is mildly autistic. Has a part-time job bagging groceries at a local supermarket. Most certainly a candidate for a DEI hire and I applaud the supermarket, but Bro cannot see this. Does me head in!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    Will MAGA be gone even if the 48th isn't Trump?

    I remember being very surprised that Biden upon taking office straight away continued pushing Trump Covid lab conspiracy which is in stark contrast to the science led warnings of Bush Jr about the inevitability of another spanish flu pandemic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 greenfield21
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    What a load of nonsense, millions of Americans who voted for Trump are not a cult. How about his policies actually resonate with people. His message has been clear for decades, every speech has basically been about trade and immigration. These two issues are now front and center. This is why people voted for Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    What policies? Tariffing penguins, cosying up with Putin, getting Mexico to build a wall etc…

    Trump is a cult.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,915 Seth Brundle
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    He doesn’t have any policies. Even in his election campaign he only had a concept of a plan. He is a massive bluffer and will be quick to do a u-turn when it is not going his way although he will still attempt to claim it as a success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 greenfield21
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    Border crossings grind to halt.

    Since taking office, Trump has delivered on his pledge as encounters have since fallen further to their lowest levels since the 1960s.

    Illegal border crossings declined significantly in the final year of the Biden administration, from a period of record highs that at one point saw 250,000 Border Patrol arrests in a single month. That number dropped to around 48,000 in December, the last full month of former President Joe Biden’s term, and to just over 7,000 in March.

    experts say the current reversal at the border is startling.

    https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/mexico-border-crossing-numbers-6b2ddf34?mod=mhp



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    If that's true then why didn't it happen during his first term?

    We know his hotels are entirely dependent on irregular immigrants.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 everlast75
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    MAGA repeating The White House claim that

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    Is that so?

    Okay then...

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 everlast75
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    He ran on building a wall and making Mexico pay for it?

    How much do you know about his success with that policy?

    Do you know that it didn't happen.

    Do you know Mexico told him to **** off when he embarrassing asked the Mexican government to not publicly admit that it wasn't going to happen?

    Do you know about Steve Bannon, and how he committed fraud by getting people to donate to build the wall, only for him to later misappropriate the money?

    Do you know that he pardoned Steve Bannon for defrauding MAGA supporters?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    Trump supporters are just stupid. They wanted chaos, they don't believe in government and are entirely comfortable with convicted sex offenders crashing their economy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 8mv
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    Yeah - sounds very similar to an encounter I had with my cousin last year. It's actually quite disturbing to have someone you grew up with and thought you knew well come out with this nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,044 Tell me how
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    Apparently Iran has gained the upper arms in negotiations with the US and the best the US can hope to get out of the talks is possibly the same as the nuclear deal that was in force since 2015 until Trump pulled out of it.

    All the things that Trump apparently wanted (destruction of nuclear program and enrichment programs) are off the table.

    The great negotiator, emboldening his opponents once again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    Of course Trump supporters and apologists on this thread will hape this as a beautiful deal, the best, wonderfully etc.…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,194 CelticRambler
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    Well … yeah. Even legal border crossings are well down, especially on the northern border, and in absolute terms, by a massively greater number than those illegal entries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,406 Oscar_Madison
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    Whilst I don’t support illegal crossings (but do support a fair system for immigration to USA) - in my own view, it’s not that the border is better protected (albeit it probably is)- it’s because a lot fewer people are willing to experience the wrath of ICE and MAGA combined- something that the democrats could also have achieved when in power if they so wished - you don’t have to stop all immigration - you just need to stop the undesirables - and treat them harshly - Democrats didn’t do that so whilst I despise the current regime I do criticise the previous one on illegal crossings - it was simply bizarre what they allowed.

    But- agriculture no less many other industries still need immigrants - it’s that simple- so what’s the MAGA view and when will they implement it? Great no one wants to travel to America in case their pecker gets chopped off by an overzealous border guard- fine, message understood- but what about letting in the people who keep the economy going and doing the jobs Americans don’t want to do, but need to be done in order to keep the wheels going around?

    I’ll be listening to the farmers in the coming months - they should be a vocal bunch if they’re not finding the labour they need



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,396 PropJoe10
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    He doesn't have policies. He preys on people's fears and insecurities, says what people want to hear, and they fall for it. The very definition of a cult. All he's done since he got into office is destroy America's soft power in the world and alienate America's allies, while cosying up to Putin and selling Ukraine off down the river. He's an idiot and so is anyone that defends him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,260 My name is URL
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    Looks like they made the right call in not grovelling to Trump like Micheal Martin.



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