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All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2025 (Munster And Leinster Championships,Liam McCarthy Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭JoyceDavenport


    Mod Edit

    Warning issued.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,911 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Mod Note

    2 posters banned, one permanently.

    Try to keep it civil.

    Back to hurling please.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    As a Cork fan can I disown about 90% of the stuff posted by one particular poster today?! Just because your team used to be good doesn’t really mean a whole hill of beans 20+ years later. Each generation must make their own history and have their own successes.

    Clare and Limerick have enjoyed great success these last few years, they’ve earned their bragging rights.

    Only thing he did post about, which I would echo, is distaste for Clare’s shithousery. A brilliant hurling team but they are like Atletico Madrid with their off the ball nonsense, baiting and then diving. It’s effective though - see the red card today. Loads of other players could have gone down holding their faces in either match today but Clare would be the ones to do it. When it’s not called out, and its so effective, expect to see more, not less, in our game.

    And yes, ultimately Barrett should have known better…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,449 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    given the intensity of games now the skill levels are suffering, I feel our hurling was brutal today at times in Ennis but the comeback might look impressive, the worry is , it's papering over cracks

    there looked to be a more sustained level of intensity in year game which probably answers your question, that and 3 or 4 changes to the normal starting lineup



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Cork are the Arsenal of the GAA, living on past glory but done nothing for 20 years. Like Arsenal they might actually win this season though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I agree with you but there are so many other counties in the same boat. All is this is irrelevant afterwards if Cork win All Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Those counties don't have the same arrogance as Cork fans. See it on this thread, dismissing Clare for lack of success, when In the last 30 years they've been as successful as Cork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I disagree with you there. All counties have their fair share of "arrogant" supporters. Part of life. Most of the Cork fan base know where we stand and what we need to do to become successful going forward. Cork fans get labelled as arrogant because of their massive fan base which is unfair imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    100%. 99%+ of Cork fans are more hopeful than we have been for a good few years of winning the AI - but just that, hopeful. I know no one I talk to about hurling here in Cork who expects to win. I think most Cork fans give us about a 30% to 35% chance of winning, which is pretty good really. But it’s still easily more likely than not that we won’t.


    This bollox of Cork fans all thinking we would win this year is a notion from people who have never been to Cork, or certainly haven’t been there talking hurling any time recently. The likes of Dalo are putting it out there to help their own counties.


    and after today, Corks odd should definitely lengthen….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    think you are letting one poster tar the rest of us.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    It was one Cork fan who has now been banned that was saying that but do keep on gathering some more tar for your brush!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    We've achieved a lot of unique feats in the GAA all Ireland and league doubles, Teddy Mac and his two all Ireland senior medals in the one year, Brian Murphy the only man to win all Ireland medals in senior, minor and u21 hurling and football, Kevin Hennessy scoring the fastest goal in all Ireland hurling final history etc. We're not an arrogant county imo we're a proud county that has hit a barren spell, but the same thing happened to Tipperary in the years from 1971 to 1987 as well.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Krazy gang


    Correct. I have no idea why people go on about who won what or didn't win 40 or 50 years ago. As if the current day players give a sh**é about that 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Krazy gang


    In fairness that was mainly one poster on here. Most cork fans have been saying that winning munster or the all ireland will be difficult. I fact it's mostly people from other counties hyping the up, Eg Mullane and daly.

    Separately the Indiscipline of the cork and clare players was disappointing, especially the second half. Like immature teenagers. Made refs job very difficult. A lot of needle between the 2. On the other hand tipp and limerick much easier to ref. Players here just got on with it.

    Fair dues to young mccarthy. Delighted he got the equaliser after missing a few. Tipp impressed me, played with pace and hunger and are building a nice squad with a good range of young, old and lads somewhere in between.

    They'll go to cork in a confident mood after that performance especially with corks struggles yesterday. Cork will be down Barrett and o brien from the league final and probably rob downey. Ciarán Joyce played with a strapped hamstring. So what will cork half back line be? Mellerick, Joyce possibly and Coleman. Dalton or Healy to start instead of Barrett



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,643 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    The only people saying Cork were hot favourites for the all ireland were people not from Cork including a Clareman on commentary yesterday.

    If my mother tongue is shaking the foundations of your state, it probably means you built your state on my land.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭caddy16


    This sanctimonious crap about diving from Cork fans is hilarious given your own teams tendency to do it over the years.

    There is an element of it that has crept in in recent years and yes Clare players have been guilty of it but are by no mean the worst culprits.

    The facts are, in the last 2 years Clare have had 2 red cards overturned at u20 both involving Cork players for acting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    You make my point for me. It’s becoming endemic. Cork had two sending offs in the same u20 game this year through Clare diving (though as an aside the draw Cork got in that u20 match was as flukey a draw as any team ever got, Clare much much better…)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Was at the match in Ennis, raucous atmosphere. Cork have great pace and athleticism and always look on the verge of blowing a team away. To get goals they attempt intricate football type overlapping moves to create space but because it is so intricate it can easily break down. Clare got 3 goals from lumping balls down on a big man in front of the goals, simple and way less energy expended. It is impossible for one man to reff an inter county hurling match. The ball is travelling too far, too fast for one man to police the whole pitch. The amount of pulling and dragging and shaping and arsing that went on in the second half of that game yesterday was ridiculous. Fastest game in the world, meh. Most of the second half seemed to be the ref going to his umpires and lines men while the big children in jerseys were pulling and dragging our of each other



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭caddy16


    Clares best forward missed the next u20 game with concussion from one of those reds but he dived....

    Not sure how I'm making your point, your pointing the finger at Clare but Cork as as bad if not worse than any county.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭New Scottman


    Clare and Limerick threw it away yesterday.

    Reason: they both conceded the equalising score.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    while I’m still really pissed if that Cork threw away a 12 point lead, having slept on it and watched TSG, I’m coming around to your way of thinking. Clare went a point up in the 7th minute of 6 added. They had scored 1-6 without reply. They won the puck out. Cork getting a point at that stage was a less than 10 percent shot. If Cork lost it wasn’t just two points to Clare and none to Cork, but they had Cork on the head to head also. All in all, I maybe should be more relieved than I was yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,408 ✭✭✭endainoz


    You'd imagine Waterford are happy enough with yesterdays results, four other teams in Munster dropping points. Statistically they should have a better chance of going through now.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,911 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Or if they lose their first game, Every other team in Munster will be ahead of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Vinnie222


    True, yesterday’s results definitely worked in Waterford’s favour, but let’s not get carried away. One good weekend doesn’t rewrite years of underperformance. They’ve been the weakest Munster side for a reason , it'll take more than dropped points elsewhere to change that narrative



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,408 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Yes, but in terms of statistics Waterford have more points to gain than the rest of the teams in Munster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Vinnie222


    Sure, the results went their way and they’ve technically more points to play for, but let’s be honest, Waterford having an opportunity and actually doing something with it are two very different things. They’ve made a habit of bottling it in Munster, and I’ve seen nothing to suggest this year will be any different



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,408 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Well yeah we still have to see where they are this year, also they were very close last year to going through, not getting carried away but youd never know. The beauty of the Munster championship



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,643 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    If my mother tongue is shaking the foundations of your state, it probably means you built your state on my land.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭French Toast


    Can anyone remember seeing a yellow card being given for diving? Or simulation, play-acting, whatever you call it. It has crept in to the game big-time in recent years. I don’t think any one county is uniquely guilty.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,442 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    It's across both codes and you see it at underage level as well. It's a blight on the game but not sure there's anything being done about it. Players and teams will see it as a way of gaining an advantage as long as they get away with it.



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