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Would you go on a J1 visa now?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭beachhead


    Depends on how dense or provocative they are. I don't think even a maga supporter would raise their flag in Ireland.Unless after 2 pints of Guinness and being .....ed in temple bar.Some of them might be on a "our beer is the greatest " when they reach 4 pints and then get stoopid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Well, if you're an EU citizen, a professor, heading to a scientific conference in the US to present a paper… apparently having posted messages somewhat critical of Trump is enough to mean you've broken the rules, will get detained, and won't be admitted to the U.S.? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/trump-musk-french-scientist-detained

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭beachhead


    Good to remind people posting of the facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,319 ✭✭✭SeanW


    The advice I've seen is that they're mainly interested in people who may be travelling to the US with the intention of stirring the pot, so to speak, while there.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,150 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    In other words, thoughtcrime

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭beachhead


    Yes,thought crime is now illegal in yankeeland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭yagan


    I guess the only way to be assured safe entry is carry a bible to passport control while wearing a maga hat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,531 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    What exactly do you think is happening that's making it like 1930's Germany?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Well, apart from things like the rollback of DEI initiatives? Instructions to literally remove unapproved words from scientific papers? The pardoning of insurrectionists who were literally responsible for serious injuries and deaths? Well apart from all that, there'd be the concentration camps:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Such mad hyperbole. irish funders do similar things to sciencists, speaking as a recipeient of their funding. I'd tell people go on a J1 if you want. Social media world is not the real world.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Yes because not having some DEI nonsense is the same as Nazi Germany. Mother of God the pearl clutching nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    "Not having some DEI nonsense" - I've a friend who's a teacher in the US. Not allowed have a photo of his husband on his desk. Straight colleagues can and do have photos of spouses and partners. It started small in 1930s Germany, too. I mean, there was loads I could have put in there - the stuffing of the Supreme Court, the blatant gerrymandering, the removal of the right to vote (technically still allowed, but making it really hard to hard to register), the withdrawal of funding from education… but it was early.

    And you seem to have missed the bit about pardoning people who literally caused serious injuries and deaths, and, well, the whole concentration camp thing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭yagan


    A for profit jail system is effectively labour camp stuff rather than correctional for the benefit of society.

    All that's happened with this presidency is that the mask has slipped.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭Merrion


    It is also worth noting that the ICE agents have a quota of detentions that is the basis of their performance related pay and employment review so they are financially motivated to be over prescriptive when judging the guilt or innocence of any given student.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭beachhead


    and moustachioed too but neatly trimmed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    I would definitely do it again. I went in 99 to the Outer Banks in North Carolina, great experience. Weather was amazing. People were great. It was a different world back then though as it was before the twin towers and any of the extreme MAGA stuff.

    Thinking about it I don’t think I’d be treated much differently by the people of North Carolina in 2025. As an Irish person I was made very welcome there. As it was a tourist resort I worked in there were a lot of US students working there here for the summer too. One thing that stood out to me about them was how focused they were on being cool. The way they dressed, the way the talked and even the way some of them swaggered about. A little bit cringe tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    I was in NC last summer. It was… odd. Out of the cities, there were MAGA and 'Blue Lives Matter' flags all over the place. I'm just not used to seeing loads of flags like that, literally one outside every house in the suburbs. People were friendly, at least, but we never discussed politics when we were out.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭NSAman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭engineerws


    That's pretty troubling to have such a policy against gay people but tbh, I can't understand why a teacher would have a picture of their spouse of a desk in their classroom. I can't remember a single teacher in primary/ secondary that had a picture of a spouse in their classroom. Maybe it would be just to have a no spouse pictures in class policy for heterosexual and homosexual people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Nor can I, but it's a different culture there. And maybe it's a perfectly harmless practice to have such photos, that makes no difference whatsoever to anyone else?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Nope, and to clarify, it was American flags that were everywhere, literally almost every house, and then a significant number with MAGA/Trump signs or flags. The flags are, apparently, the norm there, not just election years.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Flags are the norm everywhere. Where I live i am the only house without them. I also do not put signs up in my yard. But every other house has either Maga or Harris during election years.

    Personally, I'm not into flying flags of any type. Nor the endless bumper stickers you see here also. (most of which, in my opinion, hold many of the cars together 😀)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,606 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Its normal for people to fly American flags, irrespective of their politics, especially around 4th July. Not sure why you would feel threatened by that? When we bought our new build house it came with a flagpole and a "free" American flag lol. Most people on my street use it for sports teams. Americans just love a good flag



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,244 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Wouldn't the Nazis themselves have described DEI as "nonsense"? Their whole society was anti-diversity, equality and inclusion…..it was all about survival of the fittest, a mono-ethnic state (Aryans) and exclusion of all types of minorities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭engineerws


    A friend of mine living in the US was complaining about a friend who was descended from Nazis that move to South America. Because her Nazi German grandparents moved to South America, she was termed Latinx and therefore her children would get into college ahead of his.

    At the other end on the spectrum from Nazism is Mao, who loved dei and locked up talented academics. Somewhere in the middle is the answer and it may have been that the USA was becoming DEI heavy. Hopefully the reaction will not be too bad and a workable middle ground discovered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭yagan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭yagan


    When I lived there it actually wasn't that common, someone told me it was mostly veterans of WWII who'd hang flags as the sour taste of Vietnam was still around.

    It probably took on a renewed importance after 9/11.

    Honestly I thought the 4th of July was just a really trashy holiday, kinda of like how Patrick's Day can be really rough once the parades finish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    ICE drunk on power, arresting people waiting in car for their lawyer to come.

    Using a citizenship/ naturalization meeting as pretext to get somebody to come in and arrets them. Didn’t Saudi do that to a journalist? At least they didn’t murder them and cut up the body this time.

    Defying a court order and shipping a guy out to an offshore out of jurisdiction detention prison. And say sorry, didn’t meant to nothing we can do now.

    Attacking any judge that rules against them, so that the next one will be afraid to do so.

    Banning any media who is critical of them or ask hard questions from White house press room.

    Trying to take control of universities that they don’t agree with.

    Trying to shut down their department of education so they each state can teach their own agenda.

    Ambushing the leader of Ukraine in public to help their enemy.

    Demanding Greenland because they “have to have it”.

    Approving the destruction and ethnic cleansing of Gaza so that it can be turned into a tourist resort.

    Calling the bombing on a town and death of 32 civilians a mistake and not a war crime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭beachhead


    Not necessarily veterans from any war.You often see the tricolour alongside.

    Right about 4th of July



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,531 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    The DEI initiatives that result in the best people for the job not being hired?

    By "unapproved words" you mean unscientific words describing gender which are unrelated to biology but instead ideology?

    The pardoning is a grey area when video evidence shows they were invited and escorted into the capital by the police and guards of the building. Those who were convicted of assault served their time. None of the people on that day caused death. Police however did shoot one person.

    And by concentration camps you mean regular prisons?



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