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Setting up a webserver

NotMe · 2005-03-20 19:22:44

Hi. I want to set up a web server at home mainly as an experiment. BTW I saw Guru Maith Aguts thread but I didn't want to hijack it :) I've installed Apache on a Windows XP machine and when I type 127.0.0.1 into a webbrowser I get the Apache test page. Ok but when I type in my external IP address I get my modem setup page…

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Hi. I want to set up a web server at home mainly as an experiment. BTW I saw Guru Maith Aguts thread but I didn't want to hijack it

I've installed Apache on a Windows XP machine and when I type 127.0.0.1 into a webbrowser I get the Apache test page. Ok but when I type in my external IP address I get my modem setup page Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

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#2 20-03-2005 7:46pm

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You have to forward port 80 externally to port 80 on the web server machine. Its done in your modem config.

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#3 20-03-2005 9:44pm

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Best to move apache to port 81 till you are sure what you are doing - you don't want to lock yourself out of the modem. Also opening an XP machine to the internet, not a good idea unless you have all the usual patches and firewall, also you will need to set the firewall wall to allow apache out. Also you will need a full backup of your system in case it gets hijacked and also you want to be sure there is no information on the machine in case it leaks out on to the internet..

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#4 20-03-2005 10:16pm

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He's alright (generally) as long as its just Apache he exposes. Alot of routers will let you assign the managment interface to another port to avoide the conflict. Im surprised your getting the router managmnet page on its external IP most dont alow that (at least not by default).

Def make sure you patched and Firewalled whether your exposed to the net directly or not.

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#5 20-03-2005 10:28pm

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ok I changed apache to port 81 and I port forwarded it int the modem and router settings but I'm just getting "connection refused". I have it set up in Zonealarm aswell.

I think I'm getting the modem setup page on port 80 because I'm accessing it from the lan. I would hope that people on the internet can't see that page. :eek:
Actually will someone click here and tell me: http://194.46.79.162/

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#6 20-03-2005 10:31pm

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You can see it at http://194.46.79.162:81/

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#7 20-03-2005 10:33pm

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paddy wrote:

You can see it at http://194.46.79.162:81/

What the apache test page?

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#8 20-03-2005 10:36pm

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You can see this

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#9 20-03-2005 10:47pm

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Excellent! Thanks a lot. That means it is working so. I wonder why I can't see it.

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#10 20-03-2005 10:50pm

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NotMe wrote:

Hi. I want to set up a web server at home mainly as an experiment. BTW I saw Guru Maith Aguts thread but I didn't want to hijack it

I wouldn't have minded NotMe Its a Jesus thing! LOL

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#11 20-03-2005 10:51pm

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When you have it hanging in the wild consider doing an online port scan of your box...

https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

www.unixcircle.org has a nice scanner but I believe they are re-constructing their site

osmethod

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#12 20-03-2005 11:04pm

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Guru Maith Agut wrote:

I wouldn't have minded NotMe Its a Jesus thing! LOL

Heh heh

osmethod wrote:

When you have it hanging in the wild consider doing an online port scan of your box...

https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Cool I'll do that.

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#13 21-03-2005 4:08am

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NotMe wrote:

Excellent! Thanks a lot. That means it is working so. I wonder why I can't see it.

Some NAT routers do not correctly handle traffic coming from the LAN to the router's public ip address - to access from the LAN you need to use the server's LAN ip address.

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#14 21-03-2005 10:19am

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Only ones to make a mess of that that Iv have seen are expensive Cisco ones, coz Cisco think they know better... :rolleyes:

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#15 21-03-2005 11:56am

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I'm using a Binatone modem/router plugged into a Linksys wireless router.

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#16 21-03-2005 1:01pm

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let me get this...

you have a modem/router plugged into your phone line for your BB connection and then you have that plugged into the WAN port on your wireless router, then your machines are plugged into the wireless one or connect wirelessly?

I've seen stuff connected like this before and it's a bit a headache setting up the ports etc to pass the traffic from one router to the other, they loose packets between them etc.

Have i got your setup right in my head? maybe you could describe it a bit more?

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#17 21-03-2005 1:07pm

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Raideneire wrote:

let me get this...

you have a modem/router plugged into your phone line for your BB connection and then you have that plugged into the WAN port on your wireless router, then your machines are plugged into the wireless one or connect wirelessly?

I've seen stuff connected like this before and it's a bit a headache setting up the ports etc to pass the traffic from one router to the other, they loose packets between them etc.

Have i got your setup right in my head? maybe you could describe it a bit more?

The "modem" may not actually be a router, but just an ethernet access device, capable of serving one system. Otherwise, tho, yep, unpleasant mess. You should set the modem to forward to the router's IP and the router to forward to the computer.

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#18 21-03-2005 1:33pm

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rsynnott wrote:

The "modem" may not actually be a router, but just an ethernet access device, capable of serving one system. Otherwise, tho, yep, unpleasant mess. You should set the modem to forward to the router's IP and the router to forward to the computer.

true, it may or may not be a router but unless we know exactly whats connected to what then it'll be a tricky one to pin point where it falls down.

You mentioned about forwarding the traffic on, so to speak. Again i've tried this before and it was still a bit of a nightmare, had DMZ and NAT settings all over the place to get it do what was required

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#19 21-03-2005 1:39pm

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Raideneire wrote:

let me get this...

you have a modem/router plugged into your phone line for your BB connection and then you have that plugged into the WAN port on your wireless router, then your machines are plugged into the wireless one or connect wirelessly?

I've seen stuff connected like this before and it's a bit a headache setting up the ports etc to pass the traffic from one router to the other, they loose packets between them etc.

Have i got your setup right in my head? maybe you could describe it a bit more?

Yeah when I was getting started with broadband I accidently bought a modem/router instead of just a modem. I have the modem/router plugged into one of the computer ports on the wireless router. I couldn't get it to work by plugging it into the WAN port. So the wireless router is 192.168.1.1 and the modem is 192.168.1.2 and the computers on the lan use 192.168.1.2 as the gateway. I suppose they would see the modem as a computer with internet access? Anyway it works.

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#20 21-03-2005 2:09pm

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That setup is grand the router part of your wireless router isn't being used basicly.

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#21 21-03-2005 5:41pm

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NotMe I don't want to hijack your thread, but I need help trying to close Port 515 (printer/spooler), so if anyone can help please check the new thread I started here .

thanks,
causal

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