Anyone think the game would be better without "Scan"?

GreeBo · 18-11-2005 03:59PM #1

It makes it very unrealistic because no matter how well you hide for example you can be found in one click of a button.
Means when one team has no flags the game is pretty much over without a chance...

Is it configurable?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 18-11-2005 04:05PM

Eh... if the team has all the flags and there is someone alive, it is only fair that he can be found fast. Especially on larger servers. I think it's grand the way it is. I don't know if it's configurable.

jaggeh · 18-11-2005 04:26PM

its an essential tool, if your so unhappy about it go blow the trailer

GreeBo · 18-11-2005 04:44PM

jaggeh wrote:

its an essential tool

Yeah, a magical mystical James Bond type of tool

jaggeh · 18-11-2005 04:47PM

you know a sattelite can do a thermal scan that can pick up your heat signature through several feet of concrete.....

its not exactly james bond stuff.

stop crying about it and throw some C4 on the sattelite uplink trailer.

GreeBo · 18-11-2005 04:52PM

jaggeh wrote:

stop crying about it and throw some C4 on the sattelite uplink trailer.

Its an opinion, stop attacking it and go sit on some C4.

KdjaCL · 19-11-2005 11:10AM

Sucks when your a sniper in a good position and your busted by scan and not by someone copping.

Useful when advancing in large numbers tho.

kdjac

d22ontour · 19-11-2005 12:15PM

Does the game need commanders at all never mind scans ?

I would rather if there was none and it was up individuals to find the last remaining players alive on the other team.

Shiny · 19-11-2005 12:38PM

But aren't spec ops invisible to the scan feature?

KdjaCL · 19-11-2005 12:57PM

d22ontour wrote:

Does the game need commanders at all never mind scans ?

I would rather if there was none and it was up individuals to find the last remaining players alive on the other team.

Would be better if Squad leaders used binos to spot targets, like in Bf42 rather than the just blowing up areas for the sake of it.

kdjac

Agent47 · 19-11-2005 10:13PM

its annoyuing wen ur last guy(s) and ur team has no flags and u get busted by scan, id prob prefer it if it just gave the commander the ability to zoom right in on map, at least then they'll hav to seaerch for u!

IG-Calibre · 20-11-2005 01:04AM

I think 16 player servers would be fantastic if there were no commanders tbh..

TheHairyFairy · 20-11-2005 07:17AM

Well we regurarly play Inf only, no vehicles and no commanders on our 20 man server and it is mental fun. Great on Masthur, Sharaqui, Oman and Karkand 16 player maps.

Fairy

Airblazer · 20-11-2005 07:03PM

yep spec ops are invisible on scan..very handy when you're the last guy and you need to cap a flag....just find the farest away flag and cap it..(in theory...but as we all know the last guy just stays where he is like a big fvcking gimp)

jonski · 20-11-2005 07:08PM

Airblazer wrote:

yep spec ops are invisible on scan..

I believe you are mistaken there as spec ops are as visible as any other class .

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 21-11-2005 02:09AM

they are invisible on something... it must be UAV then... I am not sure...

jonski · 21-11-2005 11:32AM

Trey Quick Recorder wrote:

they are invisible on something... it must be UAV then... I am not sure...

Nope . They are visible on both uav and scan .

Silverfish · 21-11-2005 12:54PM

Eh, no Jonski, I think you'll find Spec Ops are completely invisible to UAV when wearing the unlockable Marshmallow Suit ( must have 15697751 points) which also makes you invisible to tanks, other players, very small kittens, and eggplants.
It also means you can not only remain undetected on UAV and scans, but can run up and punch the commander repeatedly in the back of the head while remaining totally invisible.

(Translation: Spec Ops are visible on UAV and scans - Sarcasm factor : 5)

Instant Karma · 21-11-2005 01:44PM

the game would be 1000 times better if there....

a) were no commanders, no artillery and no scans
b) no snipers
c) adjustments made to the nade launcher

^^and thats only for gameplay

theres tons of other bugs both in game play and other features of teh game which EA/Dice need to sort out asap. chat while paused anyone??

Crazy that they have an expansion out already(soon) and we are still stranded on 1.03 which isnt even a real patch.

the_syco · 21-11-2005 02:04PM

Instant Karma wrote:

a) were no commanders, no artillery and no scans
b) no snipers

Crazy that they have an expansion out already(soon) and we are still stranded on 1.03 which isnt even a real patch.

1.04 will be coming out soon. I snipe with the heavy machine gun. Without the scans, it'd be pretty much BF42, tbh.

jonski · 21-11-2005 02:15PM

Silverfish wrote:

Eh, no Jonski, I think you'll find Spec Ops are completely invisible to UAV when wearing the unlockable Marshmallow Suit ( must have 15697751 points) which also makes you invisible to tanks, other players, very small kittens, and eggplants.
It also means you can not only remain undetected on UAV and scans, but can run up and punch the commander repeatedly in the back of the head while remaining totally invisible.

While I commend you for finding this out ( and I wasn't aware that everyone knew it ) , I laugh in your general direction for not realizing ( is that with an S or a z , cba running it through spellchecker ) , that Spec ops spend most of their time crawling around on the ground . Now , I can see some wondering why this is significant . Well if you have ever noticed while your are flying at high altitude in a plane or chopper and you look down at the ground , you can see ants running around like headless chickens , or is it the other way round , no matter . These ants , in latin antuspunishisus Forownusfaultus are well known for their addiction to sugar and would pick a marshmellow incased spec ops clean within a matter of seconds , rendering him invisible to one and all , scan , uav , binoculars , naked eye ( huh huh , I said naked ) and even microscope .
Is this a chance you are willing to take to blow up gun or two , rob a tank and base rape until you are kicked from the server ? I think not ! .....oh wait , if this thread is being read by the general BF2 population then maybe the answer is yes .

Therefore I believe the best way to become invisible is ...to blow up the uav and scan trailer first , rob the tank , base rape , then sit back and eat the marshmellows ( toasted on the fire of your burning enemies ) and watch those kick votes come rolling in .

John

jaggeh · 21-11-2005 04:24PM

here here jonski, nothing says 'good job' like the enemy team attempting to kick you.

but seriously, if you have a problem with the commanders assets
GO BLOW THEM UP!!!!
score some points, steal some tanks and escape. just for heavens sake stop whinging about it, without the commander+assets we would be playing a prettier BF1942 and as much as i like the older BF games, i LOVE bf2.

Silverfish · 21-11-2005 05:39PM

Instant Karma wrote:

the game would be 1000 times better if there....

a) were no commanders, no artillery and no scans
b) no snipers
c) adjustments made to the nade launcher

^^and thats only for gameplay

theres tons of other bugs both in game play and other features of teh game which EA/Dice need to sort out asap. chat while paused anyone??

Crazy that they have an expansion out already(soon) and we are still stranded on 1.03 which isnt even a real patch.

In my opinion, I think the following things should be dropped:

UAV
Scan
Artillery
Commanders
Choppers
Tanks
Weapons

I also think the size of the maps are unneccessary, they should be more linear. In order to destroy the enemy you should have to jump on his/her head twice.

(Translation: Got a better idea for a game? Go make it. Someone else designed this, and lo, it was created, and they deemed it good. And it was good. And then, they created the 1.03 patch. And this was also good. And the people did rejoice, and were happy. For five minutes. Then due to the low attention span created by too much gaming, sought to sully that which was good, by planting unease in the hearts of the people. And Silverfish did say unto these: Go, forth, to Game or HMV and buy thyselves another game where thou wilt bitch and complain less, I do not like the game they call 'Championship Manager' and my solution to this was not to go forth and complain on every forum, server and toilet wall in the country, in the hopes that the gods would smile, and hire me unto their design team, whereupon I would redesign the game and release another wave of people complaining about the changes, and thus and thus forth for eternity in a never ending loop of complaints, but instead took my free choice of not playing the game, and in this day of money and choice there are other games available in which you may play, free from artillery, commanders, UAV and scans.........go play them, lest I call upon EA to release the 'Smite the Muppet' patch.)

GreeBo · 21-11-2005 05:44PM

Silverfish wrote:

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Yunno if that was only 100 times funnier it would be funny.
...:v: ...:eek: ...

jonski · 21-11-2005 06:12PM

Silverfish wrote:

Someone else designed this, and lo, it was created, and they deemed it good. And it was good. And then, they created the 1.03 patch. And this was also good.<snip>

What about the begot'en part , I like the begot part ie: EA begot dice and dice begot BF2 , the begot'en part is the only good part of the 'good book' .

Why is it that the women always forget/neglect the begot part ? pfffff

jonski · 21-11-2005 06:14PM

GreeBo wrote:

Yunno if that was only 100 times funnier it would be funny.
...:v: ...:eek: ...

Bambi's friend thumper's mom says , if you can't say something nice don't say nothin at all .

Silverfish · 21-11-2005 06:15PM

jonski wrote:

Why is it that the women always forget/neglect the begot part ? pfffff

Because we usually have to do the begetting, and the bringing forth, and would prefer not to think about it.

Or, optional answer two:

I'll beget you*

*copyright Irish Mammies 2000BC

Jim · 21-11-2005 06:38PM

Guys....stfu.

Silverfish · 21-11-2005 06:47PM

Jimeatsmenu wrote:

Guys....stfu.

Well okay, I'll put it simply then.

I think if you take out commander, artillery, scans, snipers and nade launchers, you've just got a game similar to a few others out there, and if they want BF2 to change to that, why not just buy another game in the first place?

Instant Karma · 21-11-2005 07:19PM

commanders? with the assets at their fingertips its just like turning on a multihack and having the ability to rain death the size of a football pitch down.

As a result its now harder to catch hackers, because in previous games all you needed was a well timed pb screenshot, what does a screenshot tell anyone now.

Snipers? does anyone not hate these idiots?

nade launchers? Don't get me wrong I have no qualms about using them and all my time is spent as assault, but the fact of the matter is they are too powerful and need toned down, and thats not just my opinion.

BF2 never needed half thes features and the best games Ive played have been without commanders.

Agent47 · 21-11-2005 09:45PM

assets wud be ok if they cud only be repaired by engineers, that way the team will be more involved where as all the commander has to do is drop supplies at each point and hes bk to norm and if u hang around the assets wen uve blown then up u get swarmed by enemies, if it was up to engineers to fix them then opposing teams can hav snipers scoping the assets to prevent them being fixed.

Evd-Burner · 21-11-2005 10:37PM

Get over it its war, u dont see an iraq guy jump up in the middle of war saying that american should be kicked he scanned me its not fair....

Dice/ea developed a game that is realistic in modern warfar not another version of cs where people just go around killing people, theres an objective involved, and ya need a commander to tell ya where to go and attack/defend....

AnCapaillMor · 21-11-2005 11:20PM

I think they should do something about bunny hoppers before they tackle the scans etc. Scans are handy in particular for snipers or campers. nothing worse than capturing all flags and waiting for the tickets to count down because someones hiding.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 22-11-2005 12:40AM

I only skimmed trough some of the sh!t that is posted above and I must say this... IT'S A FUKING GAME...

Since when do you lesser beings know how powerful a gernade launcher is? The splash damage is already turned down way low.

What's wrong with the snipers? They are also turned down way low. A .50 cal will cut ya in half for christ sakes, whatever about a 2 hit kill. This is one of the best balanced games in a long time...

Karma, all in all you havn't a fecking clue, why don't you go back to playing CS. The whole point of the commander and the other functions is to make BF2 differant from all the other crappy click 'n kill games...

Jim · 22-11-2005 09:16AM

Lads, keep the belligerent comments to a minimum.

Instant Karma · 22-11-2005 09:26AM

Trey Quick Recorder wrote:

I only skimmed trough some of the sh!t that is posted above and I must say this... IT'S A FUKING GAME...

Since when do you lesser beings know how powerful a gernade launcher is? The splash damage is already turned down way low.

What's wrong with the snipers? They are also turned down way low. A .50 cal will cut ya in half for christ sakes, whatever about a 2 hit kill. This is one of the best balanced games in a long time...

Karma, all in all you havn't a fecking clue, why don't you go back to playing CS. The whole point of the commander and the other functions is to make BF2 differant from all the other crappy click 'n kill games...

I've played teh BF series from 42, I have enough understanding of the game and the series to have my own opinion. I'll concede my sniper gripe is a personal one but regarding the nade launchers, well.......

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 22-11-2005 03:38PM

I have played them all too, expansions included. It was a great idea to bring in commanders and assets. They are used in real time situations, so why not here?

The snipers are perfect, only one hit kill is a head-shot. The worst thing about the game is all the crappy bugs.

jaggeh · 24-11-2005 09:53AM

honestly guys

there is nothing wrong with the balance of the game.

their commander has assets, yours has assets. get him to use them.

want to deny them use? go hunt the commander and/or blow them up.

see a supply crate falling down to repair stuff?
reload off it and blow stuff up again.

still have a problem with the game? go play another.

Big Nelly · 24-11-2005 11:04AM

Have played a few hours of this game....why everyone crying so much??? not that many bugs!! remember BFV when it came out???? it was brutal...until the last update it had alot of problems!! but I still loved the game!! must reinstall and have a lash some day soon!!

Anyway if you remove commander and everything then it will be the same as DoD with vehicles....needs something differnet....everyone that is complaining here is prob cause they have played on a team with a crap commander while the other commander(prob me:D ) was whopping ass!! then its all "oh its not fair cause he killed me!"

This is the same as the post about the choppers!! it seems to be people who dont seem the best at the game that have a gripe!! not everyone but the few posts on read on here thats what stands out to me!!

Anyway get back to playing and having a laugh!! thats the whole point of the game!!

Jim · 24-11-2005 11:12AM

Heh, TiG have often fired back up 'nam every now and again but we can't function without a sprint key.

Big Nelly · 24-11-2005 11:18AM

Jimeatsmenu wrote:

Heh, TiG have often fired back up 'nam every now and again but we can't function without a sprint key.

Thats one thing that I would really miss!! can see myself hitting the sprint key every 2-3 mins!!!

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