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Photo Challenge 9: Judging Round 1

  • 19-01-2006 12:13PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭


    Given the huge amount of entries for this months extended challenge, there's going to be 2 rounds of judging. First round will contain all 36 entries and the second will consist of the top 5 and any entries that are tied. Round 1 will run for approx. one week, followed immediately by round 2.

    Photos in round 1 are available for viewing here -> http://photos.rymus.net/thumbnails.php?album=10

    Round 1, pick a finalist 96 votes

    Captain P
    0% 0 votes
    Mantel
    2% 2 votes
    rymus
    1% 1 vote
    rabbitinlights
    7% 7 votes
    440Hz
    0% 0 votes
    dalk
    13% 13 votes
    laura
    12% 12 votes
    Fajitas!
    1% 1 vote
    Diarmsquid
    2% 2 votes
    Carrigman
    1% 1 vote
    flipflip
    8% 8 votes
    cianclarke
    2% 2 votes
    Cork_girl
    6% 6 votes
    Oakers
    4% 4 votes
    Bilbao - klingklang
    0% 0 votes
    Jonny
    5% 5 votes
    Edser
    1% 1 vote
    John W
    0% 0 votes
    Jaqian
    1% 1 vote
    alisonb
    0% 0 votes
    Kelly
    4% 4 votes
    1013
    2% 2 votes
    mbf
    1% 1 vote
    bp_me
    6% 6 votes
    nagero
    0% 0 votes
    Leche Solara
    1% 1 vote
    cambogueno
    2% 2 votes
    roo_photo
    0% 0 votes
    Rojo
    1% 1 vote
    slumped
    1% 1 vote
    evilhomer
    0% 0 votes
    esavoie
    3% 3 votes
    Winds
    5% 5 votes
    Shrimp
    0% 0 votes
    Enygma
    1% 1 vote
    Merrion
    3% 3 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭klingklang


    Hi rymus.

    I'm in the list of photographers as Bilbao instead of klingklang my username.
    Can you change the caption to Bilbao - klingklang? which I should have done instead of the double barrel title that's there at the moment.

    If not I don't mind being Bilbao for a couple of weeks!
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭eas


    very tough choice, some very good shots there.

    this should be interesting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭Enygma


    Very high quality again, should we advertise on some other boards again? Get a few extra voters in?

    [edit] I posted a thread on the AH board [/edit]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    go forth and pimp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭Flipflip


    Good luck to all.

    the choice is brilliant, some great shots!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    "builderettes arse" has got to win


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭captain P


    It was a tough choice but i think i chose well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Good luck all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    I am very surprised at the current voting. Very.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭440Hz


    Shrimp wrote:
    I am very surprised at the current voting. Very.

    Can't say I understand it either. Im not going to interpret the 'very' in the way it sounds. Maybe its a noobie vote. :confused: Nice that some people like it though. Even if that sentiment is not shared by all.

    Best of luck to everyone. Really great work up there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Enygma wrote:
    [edit] I posted a thread on the AH board [/edit]
    rymus wrote:
    go forth and pimp

    Eh, no. Guys, don't start threads in AH pimping this... Make a banner advertising it and put it in your sigs, or similar. Or whatever. Don't start threads in AH simply to promote another forum's competition please. I know you only had the best of intentions etc etc.

    As I said in that thread, put in in your sig in an attractive fashion and start responding to popular threads on AH with decent replies/readable replies. People will notice it a lot faster with you doing so...



    Oh and Carrigman ftw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    People should keep in mind the appropriateness of choosing B&W for their entries. Many of the photos look as if they were just desaturated for the sake of the competition. I wonder how many were actually taken with the intention of being B&W. From a quick glance I'd say only about 9-10 of them look as though they were intended to be black & white for the below reasons.

    Create a sense of timelessness.
    Good contrast.
    Patterns as a result of B&W.
    Etc..

    What was your reasoning behind making it B&W?

    Don't reply with, "Because it's a B&W comp", because if that's the case you shouldn't have entered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Shrimp wrote:
    Don't reply with, "Because it's a B&W comp", because if that's the case you shouldn't have entered.

    If it's someone's first competition then I think that's perfectly valid. What's important is that they come out of this with an appreciation for what makes a "good" B&W composition.

    The idea that knowing that already is somehow a pre-requisite of entering a competition such as this is pointless elitism imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Tiriel


    I think that there are some brilliant shots there, I think it's interesting to see what people use as subjects. Broadens the mind a bit:D well good luck people!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    nesf wrote:
    pointless elitism imho.

    Em no... You don't seem to know where to draw the line, there is a difference between what you speak of and give proper photographic comments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭JackKelly


    Shrimp wrote:
    People should keep in mind the appropriateness of choosing B&W for their entries. Many of the photos look as if they were just desaturated for the sake of the competition. I wonder how many were actually taken with the intention of being B&W. From a quick glance I'd say only about 9-10 of them look as though they were intended to be black & white for the below reasons.

    Create a sense of timelessness.
    Good contrast.
    Patterns as a result of B&W.
    Etc..

    What was your reasoning behind making it B&W?

    Don't reply with, "Because it's a B&W comp", because if that's the case you shouldn't have entered.

    A photo can still turn out fantastic in black and white, even if you didn't oringinally intend for it to be so. Tune down the artisté outlook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭evilhomer


    nesf wrote:
    If it's someone's first competition then I think that's perfectly valid. What's important is that they come out of this with an appreciation for what makes a "good" B&W composition.

    The idea that knowing that already is somehow a pre-requisite of entering a competition such as this is pointless elitism imho.

    I have to admit that when I was choosing a photo for this I realised just how few of the photos I had taken made good B&W ones. If I have learned anything from this competition it is that.

    Oh, I would just like to say that I think the standard is brilliant in this competition and I wish everyone good luck. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Tiriel


    yeah I agree, some can work really well in black and white, depends on the textures, light etc. depends on the individual photo really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    oh dont get me wrong of course it can, but it can also turn out weak and stale. Like many of the above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Tiriel


    Shrimp wrote:
    oh dont get me wrong of course it can, but it can also turn out weak and stale. Like many of the above.
    there's no need to sound so critical, it's as if the competition is just annoying you looking at the comments you've been posting! relax, enjoy it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Shrimp wrote:
    Em no... You don't seem to know where to draw the line, there is a difference between what you speak of and give proper photographic comments.

    *raises an eyebrow*

    Entry to an open competition should not have "knowledge prerequisites". By it's very nature it will have people entering who don't know what they are doing. To state that someone who doesn't know what a B&W comp entails should not enter is not constructive imho. It's simply an attack on said people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    I wasn't referring to your comment on the people entering, it was in reference to "elitism"...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Shrimp wrote:
    I wasn't referring to your comment on the people entering, it was in reference to "elitism"...

    Eh.... what? You want to argue about a single word in a post of mine? Is this word in the context of my post or are your responces objections to said word's existence? Or is it the application of said word to something that you have said?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    It's what you were implying, you were trying to imply that I was just being elitist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭evilhomer


    Shrimp: I would have to say that your post did have an "elitist" tone to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Shrimp wrote:
    It's what you were implying, you were trying to imply that I was just being elitist.

    No it was my explicit statement that someone holding that "one must know these things before daring to enter this competition" view is elitist.

    There was no implying going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    dont misquote me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Shrimp wrote:
    dont misquote me

    Did I say I was directly quoting you there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭jlang


    Damn, forgot to submit my pic in time. I thought we had till the 20th.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,936 ✭✭✭fade2black


    Great pics all. Particularly like Cork_girl's and Rymus'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 mbf


    Shrimp wrote:
    What was your reasoning behind making it B&W?

    Shrimp, I'll answer your question without trying to read anything into how you phrased the rest of the post.

    I saw the tree in question while walking in a dark section of woods. These woods don't really have any paths and it's very easy to get lost in them. The tree itself looks old and gnarled so the overall atmosphere to me was quite spooky. I really like old B&W horror movies as I think they get across a sense of darkness and dread that colour doesn't, so I wanted this photo to be in B&W.

    I also chose this one in particular because it has both high-contrast and some graduated textures lower down, giving an overall lighter/higher contrast at the top to darker/lower contrast at the bottom.

    I took the photo in colour and made it greyscale in software later. The tree was almost completely moss-covered, so it was essentially a monochromatic picture to begin with. It was just a matter of changing green to grey.

    If you look at the url in my sig, you'll see a few shots I took which are almost B&W (below the very colourful ones), but the colour was more important in them as it added to the textures particularly the blue sheen on the rook's feathers.

    If I decide to shoot a B&W shot, I'll still grab it in colour as there's more options to mess with it later. If you simply desaturate you may not get the same effect as weighting the different colour channels seperately yourself - it depends on the temperature(colour) of the lighting in the scene. Sometimes you'll find it looks better in colour anyway and keep it that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    in the words of Dr. Evil... "ZIP IT"; "www dot zip it dot com, dot org".

    If you want to debate on elitism, take it to the debate board. As you can see, this is the photo challenge board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭Shrimp


    rymus wrote:
    in the words of Dr. Evil... "ZIP IT"; "www dot zip it dot com, dot org".

    If you want to debate on elitism, take it to the debate board. As you can see, this is the photo challenge board.

    To be honest boards is quite bad as far as advanced critique is concerned. One cant express an opinion without been slatted.

    I could list at least 10 photos which are pretty bad, and not because I don't like them, but because they aren't deserving praise or approval for there photographic "quality".

    Some shambolic entries to say the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭captain P


    you can express your opinion without being rude though Shrimp.

    I think that the general quality of whats up here for this B&W comp is very good.
    And if there are some weak ones, it doesnt matter, thats what competitions are about.
    Why do they have any less right to put their pictures up than you.
    My picture did not have the intention of being b&w when taken, but it was a dull photo and when i adjusted it in photoshop it looked alot better. I like it. I like alot of the photos in this. I had trouble picking my favourite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭eas


    Shrimp wrote:
    To be honest boards is quite bad as far as advanced critique is concerned. One cant express an opinion without been slatted.

    I think the thing is realizing that not everyone here is looking for advanced critique.

    On top of that, I don't consider your critique methods to be that advanced to be honest.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭Flipflip


    When i joined this board first I wouldve been one of the first to attack Shrimp for what he said, but after being here a fair while at this stage, I can see that most of what he says is completely valid but yet he still gets attacked for it. Which seems to me that people have a personal problem with him more than anything.

    And the reason for my B&W choice.

    Was walking over town one day and I turned around and the sun was bellowing down the street and up to my feet. I took the shot and after gettin home and looking at it I knew it would be better in B&W because I wanted to "Accentuate" the shadows in the bottom left and right of the pic, and I also wanted to make the Sun less obvious.

    Plus because the Street is more or less empty, I knew that B&W would add an element that just wouldnt be there if it was in colour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 mbf


    rymus wrote:
    in the words of Dr. Evil... "ZIP IT"; "www dot zip it dot com, dot org".

    If you want to debate on elitism, take it to the debate board. As you can see, this is the photo challenge board.

    Rymus, I'm not trying to enter into a debate, but I feel I was wrongfully told to shut up. Maybe you weren't replying to me, but you didn't quote anyone so it's hard to say. If you weren't, then I'm sorry. I know you're the moderator and I'm not challenging your authority.

    I specifically said at the top of my post that I wasn't entering into the elitism debate - I probably should have phrased it better, sorry for that. I took the question Shrimp asked about why the photo was B&W and tried to answer it. You said yourself when you started the challenge that B&W was a subject close to your heart, which is obvious when you look at your blog and in the quality of your photo in the competition. So I thought that maybe a little discussion about the reasons for the photos might be appropriate.

    Again, I'm sorry if discussion of the photos in the competition isn't appropriate - I won't do it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭eas


    Shrimp knows what the problem is, he said it himself >
    Shrimp wrote:
    To be honest boards is quite bad as far as advanced critique is concerned. One cant express an opinion without been slatted.

    if he realizes this..why does he persist to do it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    mbf wrote:
    Rymus, I'm not trying to enter into a debate, but I feel I was wrongfully told to shut up. Maybe you weren't replying to me, but you didn't quote anyone so it's hard to say. If you weren't, then I'm sorry. I know you're the moderator and I'm not challenging your authority.

    I specifically said at the top of my post that I wasn't entering into the elitism debate - I probably should have phrased it better, sorry for that. I took the question Shrimp asked about why the photo was B&W and tried to answer it. You said yourself when you started the challenge that B&W was a subject close to your heart, which is obvious when you look at your blog and in the quality of your photo in the competition. So I thought that maybe a little discussion about the reasons for the photos might be appropriate.

    Again, I'm sorry if discussion of the photos in the competition isn't appropriate - I won't do it again.

    I believe that he was specifically referring to myself and shrimp.

    Oh and Flipflip, I don't have any issues with Shrimp. I did have issue with his post. Calling something advanced critique does not make it ok. There was some good points in his post, but then he has to ruin it by going off on dismissing other people's validity in entering in the competition. Your critism is not advanced shrimp. I really don't think you should be claiming that title for yourself, such labels are awarded not claimed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭440Hz


    Why B&W?

    Well the picture was taken on a 35mm with b&w film. I was just experimenting, took a couple of rolls, some of the nice ones I couldnt use because the subjects of the pictures would not allow me to out them online :(

    Ah well... So short answer, intentionally shot in B&W. No photoshoppage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    mbf, I wasn't referring to you and as you'd expect, I fully expect intelligent & coherant discussion on photographs. I hurriedly scanned over the thread at work, the 'aggro radar' went off in my head and so the automatic response is to hand out an "stfu".

    Debate and discuss without pointless argument.... If by my comments I'm discouraging anyone from debating the finer points of black & white photography, you'll have to excuse me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    nesf wrote:
    Your critism is not advanced shrimp. I really don't think you should be claiming that title for yourself, such labels are awarded not claimed.

    After (finally) reading the whole thread over I'd have to agree. There is a difference between critism and, as far as I can see, being insulting for no reason. There are many, many different levels of ability here from pro to people who are picking up point & shoot cameras for the first time. To expect everyone to output photos of a certain quality is unreasonable. I can see that some of the photos were converted to B&W for this challenge. As nesf said, that's perfectly acceptable as this is... a black & white challenge.

    If you have decided that boards isn't up to your standard, there are several more advanced and professional photo competitions available. I'm not trying to be smart or condescending, I know I'm far from the best photographer around here.

    Nesf; apologies for promoting the pimping of these threads, rest assured I've slapped my own hand. Funnily enough I was already working on a banner, in a kind of back-burner way...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 mbf


    rymus wrote:
    mbf, I wasn't referring to you and as you'd expect, I fully expect intelligent & coherant discussion on photographs. I hurriedly scanned over the thread at work, the 'aggro radar' went off in my head and so the automatic response is to hand out an "stfu".

    Debate and discuss without pointless argument.... If by my comments I'm discouraging anyone from debating the finer points of black & white photography, you'll have to excuse me.

    Cool. Your reply appeared under my post, so I thought it may have been related. Must turn on threaded viewing and stop being an idiot.

    I'm all for discussion of the photos too. Problem is most people here are amateurs (including me), so you have to tread carefully so as not to hurt their feelings. Besides, purely negative comments don't help anyone except maybe the person posting them.

    I'll have a look at the entries again and try to post some constructive criticism of a select handful after dinner. Not that I'm an expert, just someone with eyes and an opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 688 ✭✭✭skye


    Well done to all - fantastic photos all round!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭whyulittle


    Tough one this time. Between rymus, cianclarke, corkgirl, klingklang and slumped for me.

    I think though the shadows in corkgirl's wins it for me. rymus comes second and cian third.

    Well done to everyone who took part though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Tiriel


    thank you, it is nice to get positive feedback :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭Merrion


    I used black and white for this shot because it meant I could use an amber filter to boost the contrast. I'd be interested to get some IR or near IR black and white film and give that a go - anybody used it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    rymus wrote:
    Nesf; apologies for promoting the pimping of these threads, rest assured I've slapped my own hand. Funnily enough I was already working on a banner, in a kind of back-burner way...

    Make a nice banner and I'll pimp this a bit for you. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭evilhomer


    speaking of critique, could someone give me their opinion on my photo?
    I took it on a snowy day in December and was wondering how people percieve the shot?

    Thanks in advance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 mbf


    Feel free to ignore me or write me off as a knowledge-less loony or opinionated tosser or simply just wrong, but I'll give my opinions of a few of the photos in this competition in no particular order. I've picked ones I like so I can be mostly positive and offer what I hope is constructive criticism.

    Bear in mind that particularly for B&W photography, the settings on your monitor make a huge difference and my comments are based on what I see on my monitor. It's still quite difficult to get your colour profile to fairly accurately reflect the full colour range (or in this case all the wonderful shdes of grey) even with nift ICM profiles, 3-channel gamma correction++ in video drivers, etc so you may be seeing something quite different to me when you see these photos.

    Iniscarra Dam - rymus
    I like this photo a lot. The texture of the falling water looks great and the heron(?) in mid-stride is a great touch. There's just enough water at the bottom of the photo for vertical balance.
    You can just about make out an impressive stone column to the left of the falling water - I think it'd be better to see this more clearly or to darken the photo so it's not visible at all. As it is, it distracts the eye slightly.
    The other side of the water also looks a little strange as the light fades away very smoothly to a large section of darkness. Perhaps if the entire photo were shifted to the right about 7%?

    This should definitely be in the top three.

    Lifelines - rabbitinlights
    The sharp focus on the lifelines on this hand with the rest of the hand out of focus works and makes this a well-titled photo. What doesn't work for me is the motion on the ring finger. It adds a blur to the out-of-focus and takes the emphasis away from the subject (the lifelines).

    A good photo.

    Black Headed Gull - dalk
    The depth-of-field in this photo works well and the gull is captured crisply in mid-flight. If this is a crop of a larger photo, I'd re-crop it to include a little more of the photo above the gull (unless it's too distracting) and a lot less of what's below it, going for a wider aspect to the shot. The in-focus railings under the gull distract too much from the main subject. I'd keep some of them as added interest, but not as many.

    Another good photo and a strong contender, should be in the finals.

    Aging - laura - megameaty
    I like this photo a lot, but find it hard to put into words what I like about it, probably becuase I'm a man and we're not good at expressing our emotions. There's a softness and a sense of empathy that comes across to me. If I were to change it, I'd trim a little off the top and bottom (mostly the bottom) to make it a wider aspect to accentuate the long crease going to the right from the eye.

    A good photo that deserves more than the one vote it's gotten so far.

    Driftwood - Carrigman
    A dramatic sky (but clouds always look dramatic in B&W), great texture in the rock and the perspective adds to the drama. The only problem is that the subject of the photo is a minor character in its own story. The wood blends in a little too much in any but the largest view of the shot. Possibly getting a bit closer to it would help, but the rest of the composition might suffer. This photo probably looks even better in colour as the wood would stand out more.

    Another deserving finalist.

    no title - Cork_girl
    I like trees. I like mountains. I like lakes. Naturally I like this photo. It blends those topics together very well. The framing by the tree on the extreme left is a nice touch. The only problem I'd have with it is that there's a 1-2 degree anti-clockwise tilt which is a minor distraction.

    A good photo and probable finalist.

    Winter Grasses - John W
    Black and White adds an extra touch of cold to this shot. The content is dramatic and the lighting/contrast balance is good. It feels as if the clump of grass in the water towards the bottom on the left should be the main focus of the shot and I'd give it more prominence. It has a great shape and the reflection/shadow in the water looks good too. I think that this photo might look even better in colour. There are blues and yellows reflected from frost that would add extra detail without taking away from the whole.

    Another good photo that deserves more than its solitary vote.

    the creep - esavole
    I'm presuming "the creep" means the act of creeping up a darkened stairway rather than the person holding two young children by the hand being a creep (which makes me feel like I need to wash my brain). Very atmospheric. The highlights on the bannister, the steps and the ivy(?) on the wall are particularly effective. It looks as if there was a bit too much contrast enhancement as the lighting on the steps is quite jagged and lighting on the side of the house is almos solarised. making it look artificial. If that's the point, then that's cool. I think it could do with being tilted even more for extra the extra creepy "The Third Man" feel. I could be wrong about the contrast enhancement - as there's nothing in the photo that's completely black - the artifacts may have creeped in during the resizing process or somewhere else.

    This should also probably make it to the finals.

    Tree - Enygma
    I'm very fond of this shot too. Brings thoughts of "Great Expectations" or "Wuthering Heights" to mind - moors and heaths and other foggy spookiness. The composition is great, the graduation of the background works well agains the silhouette of the tree. Again, I'd do a bit more to accentuate the subject. Either reduce the depth of field to make the background tree not interfere so much on the left or get closer and use a wider lens, but that might make the foreground tree too sharp or a bit fish-eyed.

    Definitely deserves more votes.

    The Last Patriot - shrimp
    I have to include shrimp seeing as he's the one who kinda sparked the conversation, albeit in a not very diplomatic manner.
    I'd like to see a larger or colour version of this photo as I'm not entirely sure of the reason for the title. I like shots with more extreme aspect ratios like this one. The curve of the tide looks well and the child's pose, caught mid-throw is good. As I said, I like different wide/tall aspect photos, but I'm not sure about this one. I presume it's meant to mirror the shape of the child, but the top half is essentially blank canvas and doesn't have any reason for you to look at it. Also, the arc of the stone being thrown makes me want to look further to the right to see more of how the moment will unfold. On a technical note, there seem to be artifacts from over sharpening/contrast enhancement. There's a little extra "noise" in the texture of the waves and the sky, slight jaggies in the lines on the childs clothes and definite "halo" artifacts around the poles/lines and trees(?) on the skyline and to a lesser extent around the stone and the child.

    It's a good photo, but shrimp has a lot better on his deviantart website - particularly the aptly-named "Urine Alley".

    Of course I've named five above who I think should probably be in the finals, so that leaves me out of luck - maybe I'll scrape in joint fifth.

    As you can probably tell from my criticisms above, If a photo has a clear subject, I like for it to be strongly represented, and for the rest of the photo to support the subject without detracting from it too much. Maybe that's why I'm particularly drawn to macro photography. If you disagree with my bias towards strong subjects then, to you I'll be talking through some orifice other than my mouth and should be ignored.


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