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IRL: 2X06 - "Abandoned" [**SPOILERS WITHIN**]

  • 20-03-2006 03:02PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,431 ✭✭✭✭


    - WARNING: THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET SEEN "ABANDONED" -

    Episode Title: "Abandoned"
    Airdate: March 20th 2006

    Synopsis (from TV.Com):

    Sawyer's wound becomes life-threatening as he, Michael and Jin make their way through the interior of the island with the tail section survivors. Meanwhile, Shannon is once again haunted by visions of Walt. Plus, there is the revelation on the death of Shannon's father who ended up in the hospital where Jack worked. Lastly, Charlie becomes jealous of Locke's interest in Claire.

    Next New Episode: 2X07 - "The Other 48 Days" - March 27th 2006

    What did you think of "Abandoned"? 34 votes

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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    7
    Excellent ep! We were due that after two successive weak episodes, but tonight wasn't a let-down. An 8 for me. (minus two for Michelle Rodriguez, again...)
    Here's hoping Sayid opens a can of whoop-ass on that annoying tart next week!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭Crucifix


    8
    I liked it. I've said this in the past two threads but I think the opening was a big drawn out mish-mash, and that the past three episodes (this one included) have been consistantly good. I know some people are crying out for more action and revelations, but I like this little building a base period...before the next wave of crazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 301 ✭✭marie_85


    8
    I'm taking a point off cos I don't like Boone, but oh my god!!! That was a great episode. Do you think that Shannon's father is the one who died in the crash with Jack's wife, the one Jack couldn't save? It'd be a nice coincidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    6
    What an ending! I can't wait for next week :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    7
    marie_85 wrote:
    I'm taking a point off cos I don't like Boone, but oh my god!!! That was a great episode. Do you think that Shannon's father is the one who died in the crash with Jack's wife, the one Jack couldn't save? It'd be a nice coincidence.
    Yeah, thought that but then I thought I was looking too much into it!
    Have to say, I'm really liking the Walt appearing/disappearing act. When he appeared for the first time tonight in the tent it was pretty damn cool.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,431 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Suprised people so far liked it.. can remember the episode getting a good (but not brillant) response when the majority of us seen it a couple of months back.

    Speaking of which.. it's worth looking back at our reviews of past episodes as you see them.. as even though they stretch a few pages, the theories / discussions still are valid.

    Here's the one for Abandoned

    Oh.. and not to give away too much but next week's episode is a DOOZY! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    7
    Tonights episode was very good, we really needed it after a slow past few weeks. I'm starting to get slightly annoyed with michelles character, especially now after what she did to the gorgeous Shannon, cant wait for next weeks epsisode cos whats the dealio with Walt speakin backawards or sumtin', and the whispers are so cool!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    6
    Yeah, I took marks off again for it being Ana Lucia heavy, but it was good otherwise. Man, she irritates me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,431 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    NUTZZ wrote:
    ..whats the dealio with Walt speakin backawards or sumtin', and the whispers are so cool!..
    ** cough **

    This is why i mentioned you should try to also read the US thread as this sorta stuff is discussed in detail.

    Save & rename .txt file in linked post above to *.wav and tada!

    PS - i should really include a link to the US thread with IRL episode discussion threads in the future but then there might be a tendency by IRL viewers to read the US thread before watching the episode.... hmmmm.. the dilemma! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,431 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    NUTZZ wrote:
    ..Walt says somthing like "they're coming and they're close"..
    Bang on!

    Also no-one has mentioned Jack's little cameo in the flashback.. anyone notice?

    EDIT: No?... how about now? (see attached)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


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    Yeah sorry basquille, i was a bit afraid to check out the thread in case their was any spoilers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    7
    Yeah i saw jack walk past shannon and her stepmon in the hospital, nice connection there...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭regedit


    One of the women from Ana Lucia's grup mentioned that "Thire chidlren were taken" as far as I understood.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    6
    marie_85 wrote:
    Do you think that Shannon's father is the one who died in the crash with Jack's wife, the one Jack couldn't save? It'd be a nice coincidence.

    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,431 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    marie_85 wrote:
    Do you think that Shannon's father is the one who died in the crash with Jack's wife, the one Jack couldn't save? It'd be a nice coincidence.
    Faith wrote:
    Yes
    Considering the man who was admitted (and subsequently died) alongside Jack's wife in the crash went by the surname Rutherford (Shannon's surname)... i think it's more than a "nice coincidence", it's pretty much a given! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 301 ✭✭marie_85


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    basquille wrote:
    Considering the man who was admitted (and subsequently died) alongside Jack's wife in the crash went by the surname Rutherford (Shannon's surname)... i think it's more than a "nice coincidence", it's pretty much a given! :D

    Sorry, don't have that great a memory, and didn't know Shannon's second name. Thanks for clearing that up... :o:)

    Do I get points for working it out not knowing that??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭trishw78


    8
    I noticed that Jack was in the flashback I also thought that Shannon's step mother was a bit of a bitch is this why Shannon had such an issue and problem with Boone. I know where he gets his attitude from now.

    As for Ana Lucia still hate her she's gettin on my nerves I hope Sayid drop kicks her into the middle of the island.

    I noticed that as well... and I had been begining to wonder why there was no children on the island and why there were no children in the forward section of the plane... This gets a nine for making my imagination run riot.

    It losses the point for the recap of the previous seasons episodes.

    I wonder will Locke confront Charlie about the statue, or is he trying to figure out if Charlie is using again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭mollser


    8
    basquille wrote:
    Suprised people so far liked it.. can remember the episode getting a good (but not brillant) response when the majority of us seen it a couple of months back.

    Speaking of which.. it's worth looking back at our reviews of past episodes as you see them.. as even though they stretch a few pages, the theories / discussions still are valid.

    I'm reading through the other thread (as i've been doing after every episode), and I think the reason that it didn't get a great response at the time is because a lot of contributors to that thread have ruined a lot of the surprises for themselves by reading spoilers, watching too many trailers, leaks, theories etc. For example, the fact that Shannon was shot didn't seem to come as a surprise at all to most. Why do you want to know this before it happens???

    For my money, that was the best episode of the series so far - full of mystery and strange goings on, which is what lost is best at! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    4
    God will anything ever happen this season?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    6
    Well, that's the last time I read a US thread.

    Some interesting info but mostly people latching on to the smallest of things in order to spin some far out theory (ie Shannon was stabbed).

    I liked this episode. Thought the flashbacks were good and Shannon has become a lot more likeable since near the end of season one.

    Ana Lucia is also not as annoying as everyone makes her out to be. She's tough and a survivor and her attitude is understandable considering over half the tail section have been killed or kidnapped since landing on the island. I do dislike her reluctance to tell Mike and co. what's going on but I think that's more indicative of Lost in general than her character in particular.

    I do have a few other, albeit minor, problems with this episode but overall I thought it was fun.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


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    Ok was I watching the same episode. Next week what happend the other passengers :rolleyes:

    Last night seem like it was going to get going but we end up back at the start next week. IMO running out of Ideas.

    I will continue to watch the show but it has to move along at a faster pace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭Fridge


    Yeah I think watching Promos and ****e like that must have ruined the episode for people before.

    I thought it was great but kept getting interrupted so I'll have to watch it again later.

    I don't think it's moving too slowly, especially after this episode. There's such depth in everything that happens that it has to be explored as much as it is in the programme. I don't understand why people watch it they want loads more action, as it's hardly ever all go, is it?

    I liked the flash backs. But I hate people saying that they made a big mistake killing Shannon off. Wouldn't it be crap if they kept killing silent characters and kept everyone that we've gotten to know? The whole "others trying to kill them" thing would lose effect then. Besides they've a huge amount of main characters. Just accept like real life, or you won't really be able to relate to it. **** happens like that.

    I think it was soooo cool the way that girl went missing when they got up the hill. So scary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭Fridge


    Oh yeah and I don't mind Ana Lucia so much cos I know we're supposed to hate her. And it'll be interesting to see how she deals with having shot Shannon and not being in charge any more when she gets to the beach.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 301 ✭✭marie_85


    8
    It'll be interesting to see if Walt is evil or not. Did he intend to lead the two groups together to save Sawyer etc or did he intend for someone to get hurt. Was he saying Ssh so that "the others" wouldn't hear Shannon? Or was it really Walt at all???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭MeTV


    Some notes on this episode from one of me 'blogs, if anyone's interested. As it has been lifted directly, it includes some items which have already been mentioned here so apologies for that.
    Here we go again with yet another obsessive breakdown of the latest episode of Lost.

    Damn fine episode, I thought, with some much-needed insight into Shannon's character and past. Shame we won't be seeing any more of her. Or will we? ;)

    - As always, we start with the credited cast in the show's titles. Malcolm David Kelley (Walt) makes a return as a regular cast member whereas Ian Somerhalder (Boone) is credited as a special guest star - Implies to me that we're going to be seeing Walt pop up a lot more. Also Kimberley Joseph (Cindy) was bumped from the credited guest stars telegraphing that this would be the last we'd see of her (at least for now) when she did show up.

    - Since we've already figured out that Walt was speaking backwards, it was a lot easier to decipher what he said to Shannon last night when he appeared in her tent; I made it out to be, "They're coming and they're close". Whether he's referring to the tailies or the "others" or someone/something else entirely, I'll leave up to you to decide for yourself but my guess would be the "others".

    - When Walt appears to Shannon in the tent, it looks to me like he casts a shadow, which should put paid to all those theories of holograms and astral projection, neither of which would cast a shadow.

    - Just supposition on my part but could "papa" from Shannon's ballet class be the man she ends up working for in France as a nanny? Seemed a bit strange that he would use the term "au pair" and not "nanny" if he were not French.

    - At one point, Ana-Lucia tells Eko that she liked him a lot better when he didn't talk and a few people I've been talking to have suggested that maybe he was mute and/or deaf at one point and went through a similar "miraculous" recovery as John. If this was the case, though, Ana-Lucia would have said "couldn't talk" rather than "didn't talk"; the way she phrases it suggests that it was Eko's choice not to talk.

    - After Eko informs the remaining tailies that he & Jin saw the "others", Libby asks him if he saw "the kid" (presumably the person we saw dragging the teddy bear last week). First reaction to that would be that it's Libby's child or at least a tail section survivor but, again, language is the key here; if the child was someone Libby knew, she would have referred to him or her either by name or by something a bit more affectionate than just "the kid". My understanding of that exchange is that seeing this child with the "others" has invoked some sort of emotion in Libby (remember, she is a psychologist) and, coupled with Ana-Lucia cutting her off rather abruptly when she asks about it, that that connection has cost them somehow. UPDATE: Reading back over that, even I think it's a bit of a reach but, still, I found it a bit odd that Libby referred to it as "the kid" and that Ana-Lucia was so harsh with her when she mentioned it.

    - Probably the most obvious thing in this episode and something I'm sure ye all spotted already is that Jack walks past Shannon and Sabrina when they first meet the doctor in the hospital. Nothing major in this connection, it was already established in "Man of Science, Man of Faith", Sarah (Jack's wife) and Adam (Shannon's father) were in the same crash.

    - The hospital where Adam & Sarah are brought and where Jack and Christian (Jack's father) work is named after Saint Sebastian, the patron saint of arrows, athletes, homosexuals, male beauty, plague, soldiers and, unofficially, youth. He is also the patron saint of Qormi in Malta. I'm still reading up on him and any particular relevances he may have to Lost so I'll just link ye to here instead. A couple of things I've picked up on already, though, are that Saint Sebastian was a member of the Fourteen Holy Helpers (see here), 14 being the number of regular characters Lost originally began with and that he met his death when shot with plague tipped arrows, which ties him into Apollo (see my previous entry on "Everybody Hates Hugo" here), the Greek god of archery who is said to have been the deliverer of pestilence.

    - Probably a throwaway reference to the fact that she's lost but James' nickname for Ana-Lucia this week was "Ponce de Leon". Juan Ponce de Leon is widely considered to be the first European to have set foot in America when he happened across what we now know as Florida in 1513. At the time he was looking to achieve a "spiritual rebirth with new glory, honor, and personal enrichment" by claiming and governing Bimini, an island rich in gold deposits located to the north of Spain in the Bahamas. Although incorrect, it is also commonly stated that he was, in fact, looking for the fountain of youth at the time which may tie into Saint Sebastian's unofficial patronage of youth (see above). Read more about him here. You can also read more about Bimini and its mysteries here.

    - Anyone get a good look at the man walking across the beach with a cane in the background at the start of John's and Claire's scene? The way it was shot, we were forced to notice him, something which doesn't usually happen by accident in Lost.

    - In the same scene, John seems to be looking at something green/turquoise which he promptly hides when Claire approaches - anyone see what it was or know what it might be? I also noticed a shot where we see Eko in the distance, before zooming in on him, and there is a tree to the right of the frame with a mark on it that is of a similar colour. Maybe the thing John hides from Claire is a piece of chalk that Charlie has using to mark his way back to the drug plane should he need another fix and John has spotted these markings on his wanders through the jungle.

    - According to my count, there are 5 tailies unaccounted for. In "Orientation", we find out from Libby that there was originally 23 of them. Last week, we find out Goodwin is dead and, this week, Ana-Lucia informs us that 3 of them were kidnapped on their first night there and a further 9 two weeks later. Add that to the five tailies we've met and you have 18, 5 less than the 23 Libby mentioned. Yes, it could be that Ana-Lucia just didn't mention what happened to them but she was out to make a point to Michael about how dangerous the "others" are so you would think she'd tell him everything relevant.

    - Speaking of the tailies, rewatching "Adrift" and "Orientation" over the weekend, when we first see them follow Jin out onto the beach, I definitely counted 6 of them yet now they are only 5 (4, less Cindy). What happened to the sixth? My guess is that that was Goodwin, meaning he was killed after James, Jin & Michael were captured by the tailies.

    - Also, in that same scene, Ana-Lucia tells Michael that the "others" took a lot of things when Michael states that they took his son - note the use of the word "things" rather than "people".

    - Found it a bit difficult to hear, meself, so, just in case ye missed it, when James collapses and Michael tends to him, James says, "I woulda left you behind. I did leave you behind." to which Michael replies, "Good thing I'm not you, then.".

    - Also in that scene, whose voice was that that shouted "Sawyer"? It didn't sound like either Jin or Michael. From the lack of reaction from anybody, it may have just been a crappy overdub.

    - Anyone else find it a bit odd that Sayid, who was on his way to Los Angeles to meet the love of his life that he's been searching for for 7 years, professes his undying love for a woman he's known only a month and a half, a woman who reported him to airport security as a potential terrorist?

    - Those bastarding whispers are annoying me again! Can't figure out what the majority of them are saying but 2 things I definitely heard in the whispers Shannon and Sayid hear were "Hi, sis" and "Death/Dying sucks", something Boone says to Shannon during her flashbacks. After hearing Boone in both sets of whispers Shannon has heard and Frank Duckett in the whispers James heard, I've come up with the theory that the whispers are not, in fact, the "others" as many people seem to think, but rather the amplification of the thoughts and memories of the person hearing them. I'd need to know exactly what the rest f the whispers are saying before being able to fully convince myself of that, though. ;)

    - Anyone else think Walt was telling Sayid to "Shh", not Shannon? I.E., telling him not to tell Shannon he was there because he knew she would chase him to her death. Although, why then would he run in the direction he did which ultimately led Shannon straight to her assailant.

    - Why did Walt run away from Shannon forwards, shouldn't he have been running backwards?

    - Look closely at what Sayid trips over when running after Shannon and Walt, it didn't look very organic to me, more like a metal pipe or tube or, maybe, the handle of a door to another hatch.
    (continued below 'cause stupid vBulletin won't let me post more than 10000 characters! ;))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭MeTV


    continued from above
    - And, now, for the most controversial thing I gleaned from this episode: Ana-Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Don't worry, I do have a good bit of evidence to support this wild theory! First off, the creators would not give the answer to something like this away so easily in a show that is built upon mysteries and questions. On top of that, thanks to the way the scene was cut between Sayid & Shannon and the tailies, at no point do we see all of them in shot at the same time - if they want us to believe Ana-Lucia was the culprit then why not show us a wide shot of Ana-Lucia pointing the gun in Shannon's direction? As for actual, physical evidence; firstly, look at the wound in Shannon's abdomen - that's not a gunshot wound, looks more like a blade wound to me. Next, look at the shot of Sayid looking up at the killer, who has their back to us; their weapon is longer than a pistol, held in the left hand and lowered to their side whereas Ana-Lucia has the pistol in her right hand, supported by her left, and has it raised, having just fired it. Also, even over the noise of the rain, Shannon was that loud that Michael and Jin would have heard her screaming Walt's name and recognised her voice. Lastly, the reactions Michael and Jin are shock and terror at what they see before them rather than shock at what Ana-Lucia has supposedly just done to the friend which would have garnered her a "what the **** have you just done" look from at least one of them. So, to sum up, the sequence of events as I see it is Shannon runs after Walt, leading to her being stabbed by an unknown assailant, Ana-Lucia witnesses this and gets a shot off (you can see that the gun has been fired) and they are all now staring at the person in front of them who is responsible for stabbing Shannon. Who is that person? Well, who do we know on the island who is left handed? No, really, I don't know - all suggestions welcome :)

    - If Shannon is indeed dead - it hasn't been confirmed yet - it would be a nice parallel to Boone's death; he dies having finally resolved his obsession with Shannon and she dies having gotten over her feelings of abandonment thanks to Sayid.

    - Finally, and slightly off topic, I was rewatching "Born to Run" from season 1 with my family last week and could have sworn I heard "Hanso chairman" being paged to the ICU when Kate first arrives in the hospital to see her mother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    7
    Best episode of the series so far! That's not hard, seeing as the previous episodes weren't GREAT, but I am enjoying Lost!

    First of all, I love the whole Walt thing, and it sucks the way Shannon was shot :( ..is she even dead? I gave that episode an 8 but it really should have been a 7..I'm not sure.

    Though I really dislike Ana, I think it'll be interesting to see how it is when she gets to camp, and she can't boss everyone around! Also (as said before), I wonder what she'll do when she shot Shannon. And I bet Sayid will be gutted :(

    Overall, pretty good episode!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    6
    MeTV- great post(s)! One thing though:
    MeTV wrote:
    After Eko informs the remaining tailies that he & Jin saw the "others", Libby asks him if he saw "the kid"

    I'm pretty sure she actually asks "did you see the kids".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    7
    Faith wrote:
    MeTV- great post(s)! One thing though:



    I'm pretty sure she actually asks "did you see the kids".

    Yeah that's right.

    I was wondering about that too...whose kids????

    :D lol


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Silage


    7
    I like this episode, gave it an 8. I like the backstory and i noticed jack's cameo at the hospital. I like boone and its good to see him again.

    Before now I was kinda indifferent towards Shannon's character but by the end of the episode i really hope she's not dead.

    Ana Lucia, although very hateable, i think is necessary to what is goin on, she plays a good role, ruthless, unpopular yet its obviously what works for her on the island. When you compare her to when she met Jack at the airport in Season 1 you can see the difference. I like it when there's someone to hate.

    The people at the back end of the plane still know more than they let on i think, especially when one says "the kids, did you see the kids?" very interesting. Ana said they took 12 "people" in total, but no mention of kids.

    Also at the end of the episode the expression on Ana Lucia's face to me, is kind of...eh... unexpressable. She doesn't look like she responsible.. but i'm probably wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    7
    Great analysis MeTV, but like the others (excuse the pun:) ) above me, I definately heard Libby say 'kids' and not 'kid'.
    And good theory about Anna not being the shooter. The one thing I thought about was that Jin and Michael would surely have heard Shannon shouting 'Walt!' etc, but it didn't even enter my head that it could have been someone else.
    Now I want to watch the end of the episode again to see the camera angle where Sayid is looking up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭JBoyle4eva


    9
    basquille wrote:
    Bang on!

    Also no-one has mentioned Jack's little cameo in the flashback.. anyone notice?

    EDIT: No?... how about now? (see attached)

    If i was online last night I probably would've said this anyway, but when I seen Jack i actually giggled. :o

    Anyway, I gave this ep a 10 because I thought the end alone was fantastic. I wonder how Ana Lucia gets out of this one.

    And next weeks ep sound good according to the Sky TV guide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    7
    MeTV wrote:
    Sayid looking up at the killer, who has their back to us; their weapon is longer than a pistol, held in the left hand and lowered to their side whereas Ana-Lucia has the pistol in her right hand, supported by her left, and has it raised, having just fired it.

    I think I have to agree with you about Anna not shooting Shannon, I had a look back at that scene when Sayid looks up and you can make out the outline of someones back turned against the camera holding some sort of weapon by their side and breathing heavily while Anna is still holding her pistol in the air. That was well spotted as you have to be really looking for it to see it.

    I've attached an image below so you can see for yourself ...

    http://server4.pictiger.com/img/136031/picture-hosting/shannon%5C%27s-possible-killer%3F%3F%3F%3F.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,484 ✭✭✭weemcd


    5
    Despite what anyone might say, the U.S threads aren’t the fúcking be all and end all of lost:rolleyes:

    Having read through the U.S thread (as I have for all the IRL episodes aired so far) I really gained absolutely nothing from seeing frame by frame screen caps showing nothing with accompanying theories that are complete rubbish. Seems nearly every IRl thread now has someone saying "omg I haev intarnet, seen thies epesod 6 mothns ego!111eleven, i maed a screan captuer sheowing a rokc lek a haed. howe did joo mise taht? joo ilr's aer soo fooking slow."

    I didn’t bother commenting on the episode thread last night, because I wasn’t particularly impressed with it, and I felt the only thing worth mentioning was the less than subtle inclusion of jack walking through the hospital, which was obviously going to happen if someone was called there ffs!!1fourteen And I sure as fúck wasn’t running to my computer to make sure I was the first to mention this for a bloody prize.

    All in all the episode was a 6 at best, though all I've heard from people the next one is exciting, hopefully we can see some Sayid on ecko bare knuckle boxing? That's one fight I'd like to see! Don't really care if Shannon lives or dies, if they've tried to make her into a more likable character with her flashback, they failed miserably as it seems every time she'd talk to Sayid on the island, there would be some sentimental rubbish, then her running off with Prince Naseem :p shouting "Shannon, wait!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭MeTV


    Thanks for the comments, all, and for those who pointed out that Libby said "kids" rather than "kid" - rewatched that bit and she does indeed say "kids", could've sworn she said "kid" after a first viewing. So that puts paid to the first part of that point that Libby didn't actually know the kid. In fact, quite the opposite now; had she not known them, she would have said "the children". Still strange that Ana-Lucia cut her off so abruptly. My new theory, now, is that "the kids" Libby asks about were the 3 to be taken from their camp on the first night and are the 3 Eko and Jin see walking past them.

    Managed to dig out and attach a screengrab of Shannon's wound to illustrate my point above that it looks like a knife wound.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


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    Knife wound. It is raining heavily the small amount of blood is being washed from the wound, hence it looks like a Knife wound. Is it important? Do guns on the Island shoot knifes?

    Walt: Could be Dead. Jacks father appeared to him in the first series just as walt is appearing to Shannon. He is appearing to shannon rather then his dad because he still doesn't feel that close to his dad. He feels that the dog is his only friend. Just a thought. Prob wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭MeTV


    Ay, very important! If it's a knife/blade wound then Ana-Lucia did not shoot her. I take your point about the blood being washed from the wound, but if you look at the hole in her top again, it definitely does not look like one a bullet would make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


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    Ay, very important! If it's a knife/blade wound then Ana-Lucia did not shoot her. I take your point about the blood being washed from the wound, but if you look at the hole in her top again, it definitely does not look like one a bullet would make.

    Can we see a screenshot of shannon as she is shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭MeTV


    Um ... see my attachment above.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


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    Great episode. Now that the two 'groups' have met up I'd say that the next episode could be very interesting.

    That was a great episode (maybe not better than episode 2x01, but still good) :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


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    I dont think that that attachment goes far enough. I want second by second futage of the whole even.

    Back and to the left. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,431 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Elmo wrote:
    Back and to the left. :)
    "That's one magic loogie!" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


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    "That's one magic loogie!"


    LOL:

    We should let people in on that one.

    LOL


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