At the risk of sounding like a 12 year old...

LegacyUser · 15-06-2006 01:05PM #1

I'm 18 and I had unprotected sex with my boyfriend. Yes, we were stupid, but it was the heat of the moment type thing and he pulled out before he came. Now I'm terrified I'm pregnant. I know that technically it shouldn't be possible, but... I also know this could be easily solved with a pregnancy test, but that makes it more real somehow...so I thought I'd write here first...

Nevyn · 15-06-2006 02:08PM

Yes but as difficult and as trying as an unexpectant pregancy is and how ever you do or wish to resovled that matter; pregancy or a termnination of a pregancy in these modren times will not kill you.

Hiv will.

IF you had unprotected sex you are at risk for a whole list of sexually transmitted diseases so is your partner.

Yes a pregnacy test will let you know soon enough but testing for sti and hiv is a lot more complex. I sugest that you reslove the pregancy issue and have a long think and a long chat about contraception with your partner and consider sti testing for you both.

Don't take risks with you health and your life.

BoozyBabe · 15-06-2006 02:17PM

Advice? wrote:

I know that technically it shouldn't be possible.

Why do you think that???

OF COURSE it is technically possible.
you had unprotected sex.

It's possible to get pregnant from protected sex even.

Do a test to put your mind at ease, & be more prepaired & responsible next time. Some STI's are for life, never mind a baby!!!

Marksie · 15-06-2006 02:17PM

Thaedydal wrote:

pregancy in these modren times will not kill you.

HIV will.

The treatment for HIV infection now is very good and its is a chronic illness with life expectancy of 20years plus. (when i was studying this virus at uni it had just appeared and life expectancy was only 1-2 years)!!!

However what thaedydal says is absolutely true as there is a range of STIs out there and protection is a wise precaution.
If you know your partners histroy that helps.
It is probably too late for you to take the morning after pill i guess

15-06-2006 02:19PM

Even those its effectiveness decreases a lot after 24h, she still has 3 days to take the MAP... so maybe there's still a chance...

Nevyn · 15-06-2006 02:34PM

the morning after pill may be taken up to 72 hours after unprotected sex.

http://www.ifpa.ie/contraception/emergency.html

and there maybe the futher option of fitting a coil.

'Pulling out' is not a form of contraception or safe(r) sex.
Sperm is presend in the precum that is present at the head of the penis prior to ejaculation. Since it takes only one sperm to unite with the egg for pregnancy to occur, ejaculation isn't always necessary. All it can take in intercoruse and if any of the ejaculate lands close to the vagina and if the area is moist enough sperm can swim from there all the way up into the cervix and onwards to the falliopian tubes.

r3nu4l · 15-06-2006 02:39PM

OP, you are a little misguided in thinking you can't get pregnant just because he did not climax inside you.

I suggest you buy "Everywoman: A Gynaecological Guide for Life
Derek Llewellyn-Jones" to learn more about your body.

STIs are a big issue as Thaedydal said. marksuttonie is right in saying that HIV is treatable (not curable) and you can expect to live 20-25 years but you don't want to die at about 43 now do you?

Also he left out the fact that HIV patients suffer from multiple bacterial and even fungal infections such as systemic Candida infection and Aspergillosis which are notoriously difficult to treat in this patient population. Living with HIV is hell for many people. Treatment for HIV is also incredibly expensive! Extending your lifespan is no substitute for protecting yourself from the virus.

That aside a lot of STIs are curable with antibiotics.

However Chlamydia does not show symptoms and can cause enough damage to prevent you becoming pregnant in later life.

Go to a doctor or WellWoman clinic and tell them you are now sexually active and what happened. Discuss contraception options and risk of STIs. They will happily give you all the info you need and also inform you of any risks you face. Let them educate you. Put your mind at rest and at ease. Doesn't have to be your local GP or some stuffy old fogey either.

http://www.wellwomancentre.ie/ will provide friendly, helpful advice.

Once that's done, enjoy a full and healthy sex life and don't be scared anymore

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Marksie · 15-06-2006 02:41PM

yes withdrawl isnt great and absolutely no protection against many STIs which are ither present in semen (hiv) or in fluids or lesions or exudate eg.
Neisseria, treponema, Chlaymidia, papilloma, herpes etc.

Also remember that many of these can be asymptomatic (not showing signs) so unless you are absolutely sure... ANY fluid bonding should use condoms

r3nu4l · 15-06-2006 02:46PM

marksuttonie wrote:

ANY fluid bonding should use condoms

but don't use them on your tongues when kissing each other, unless they're flavoured perhaps???:)

Marksie · 15-06-2006 02:51PM

r3nu4l wrote:

Also he left out the fact that HIV patients suffer from multiple bacterial and even fungal infections such as systemic Candida infection and Aspergillosis which are notoriously difficult to treat in this patient population. Living with HIV is hell for many people. Treatment for HIV is also incredibly expensive! Extending your lifespan is no substitute for protecting yourself from the virus.

Yep, absolutely right. I just classed it as a chronic illness
I also neglected to say that chances are GREATLY improved by early diagnosis and treatment! Even if you are well an initial treament with anti-HIV drugs can be very beneficial accordding to the latest research. So if in any doubts get yourself tested.

However the dictum, the best cure is prevention!

Marksie · 15-06-2006 02:52PM

r3nu4l wrote:

but don't use them on your tongues when kissing each other, unless they're flavoured perhaps???:)

u can get em for fingers, why not tongues!

cheeky_guy · 15-06-2006 03:49PM

Lol, the chances of her boyfriend being HIV positive? i think the thought is laughable. He's your boyfriend for gods sake, not some random junkie you met on the street!! Every single person has just drawn out the worst possible senario for here. Talk about a negative bunch!!

15-06-2006 03:52PM

cheeky_guy wrote:

Lol, the chances of her boyfriend being HIV positive? i think the thought is laughable. He's your boyfriend for gods sake, not some random junkie you met on the street!! Every single person has just drawn out the worst possible senario for here. Talk about a negative bunch!!

Yeah, because bad things never happen and noone gets STIs ever :rolleyes: You do realise that there are far more STIs than HIV and that one doesn't have to be a junkie to catch them?

Nevyn · 15-06-2006 03:56PM

Dental dams.

Nevyn · 15-06-2006 04:01PM

cheeky_guy wrote:

Lol, the chances of her boyfriend being HIV positive? i think the thought is laughable. He's your boyfriend for gods sake, not some random junkie you met on the street!! Every single person has just drawn out the worst possible senario for here. Talk about a negative bunch!!

Not negative realistic.
Just becuase someone is your boyfriend unless both parties have no sexual past at all and are virgins then there are risks.
When you sleep with someone you open yourslef up to all the people they have slept with before and then the people those people have slept with.
Testing and practicing safe sex practices are the only ways to protect yourself.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/2006/06/15/story263394.html

The Government was today urged to take further steps to tackle sexually-transmitted infections as it emerged the number of cases has quadrupled in the decade between 1994 and 2004.

Dublin Aids Alliance Executive Director Ann Nolan warned these increases coupled with changing patterns of sexual behaviour may signal a future increase in HIV.

r3nu4l · 15-06-2006 04:04PM

Thaedydal wrote:

Dental dams.

For oral sex fine

but for kissing? Yurgh!

cheeky_guy wrote:

Lol, the chances of her boyfriend being HIV positive? i think the thought is laughable. He's your boyfriend for gods sake, not some random junkie you met on the street!! Every single person has just drawn out the worst possible senario for here. Talk about a negative bunch!!

The girl is obviously confused about simple issues such as what may or may not get you pregnant, no harm in highlighting other issues as well. I work voluntarily with young people and you simply would not believe how much they do not know!

In a discussion on STIs one young guy (16) told me that you couldn't get HIV unless you were gay and a girl (17) told me that only guys got HIV and they couldn't pass it on to a girl unless they had sex during her period (contradictory and wrong on both counts!). So I'd rather outline the possibilities to this girl, have her talk to a professional and then get on with and enjoy her sex life.

As for the chances of the bf being HIV positive...what you can tell just by looking can you? Psychic powers perhaps? HIV does not discriminate based on age and if he's had unprotected sex before the chance exists.

cheeky_guy · 15-06-2006 04:06PM

I dont believe any of that!! I think STI's are blown way out of proportion. Id say 90% of the girls ive slept i never used any protection. They never asked me to so i never offered and ive never even got a whiff of an STI. The girl im with at the moment is insisting on them however but i reckon another couple of days and il have persuaded her to stop. Besides does no one think, if a girl looks healthy and is respectable that the chances of her having an STI are very slim and the chances that you might actually catch it are even slimmer, providing youre in good health??

And i seriously hope that there is not anyone in the whole WORLD that would actually consider using dental dams or whatever they are!!

15-06-2006 04:09PM

cheeky_guy wrote:

I dont believe any of that!! I think STI's are blown way out of proportion. Id say 90% of the girls ive slept i never used any protection. They never asked me to so i never offered and ive never even got a whiff of an STI.

Please tell me that you're trolling. Please. Seriously.

Have you ever even been tested? Have they?

The girl im with at the moment is insisting on them however but i reckon another couple of days and il have persuaded her to stop.

Have you both been tested first?

Besides does no one think, if a girl looks healthy and is respectable that the chances of her having an STI are very slim and the chances that you might actually catch it are even slimmer, providing youre in good health??

STIs don't sit around and say "wow, they look respectable, better stay away from them".
Geez, if you're actually being sincere here, no wonder it's such an issue...

meepins · 15-06-2006 04:11PM

ahah , you have to be joking right?

aidan_walsh · 15-06-2006 04:13PM

cheeky_guy wrote:

I dont believe any of that!! I think STI's are blown way out of proportion. Id say 90% of the girls ive slept i never used any protection. They never asked me to so i never offered and ive never even got a whiff of an STI. The girl im with at the moment is insisting on them however but i reckon another couple of days and il have persuaded her to stop. Besides does no one think, if a girl looks healthy and is respectable that the chances of her having an STI are very slim and the chances that you might actually catch it are even slimmer, providing youre in good health??

You do realise that there are infections that can be very, very dangerous, and show almost no visible physical symptons, right?

And you want to convince your girlfriend to stop using condoms. I presume you have another form of contraception in mind?

r3nu4l · 15-06-2006 04:14PM

Must be trolling but if not there is a bright side! Capture cheeky_guy, put him down and hey presto incidence of STI infection in Ireland drops within months

Rogueish · 15-06-2006 04:17PM

r3nu4l wrote:

Must be trolling but if not there is a bright side! Capture cheeky_guy, put him down and hey presto incidence of STI infection in Ireland drops within months

I like your thinking

Dirk Gently · 15-06-2006 04:18PM

I think people are failing to link cheeky guys posts with his name.

He's a cheeky guy, don’t work yourselves up about it, he's just going to give more cheek back. Ignore him and let him find his way to after hours where his cheek will be more appreciated.

cheeky_guy · 15-06-2006 04:25PM

No i am certainly not joking!! Surely there is someone else on here that can releate to what i am saying. And surely there are other people on here that are laughing at the thought of using 'dental dams' when giving oral sex. 'Sorry babe ive just gotta stick these in' LOL!

No i have enver been tested and to be honest the thought of going into an STI clinic does not appeal to me very much. Have none of the other fellas out there ever ended up in bed with a girl, had no protection and just went for it anyway? STI's are a load of hype as far as im concerned. Sure some people do catch them but if you watch who you are sleeping with and as i said already, are in good health, i dont think you would ever really catch them!! SOmeone must agree?

aidan_walsh · 15-06-2006 04:27PM

if you watch who you are sleeping with and as i said already, are in good health, i dont think you would ever really catch them!!

And how, pray tell, do you know if a person has an STI or not unless they get tested? Do they turn purple? Cough funny?

Nevyn · 15-06-2006 04:38PM

cheeky_guy wrote:

No i have enver been tested and to be honest the thought of going into an STI clinic does not appeal to me very much. Have none of the other fellas out there ever ended up in bed with a girl, had no protection and just went for it anyway? STI's are a load of hype as far as im concerned. Sure some people do catch them but if you watch who you are sleeping with and as i said already, are in good health, i dont think you would ever really catch them!! SOmeone must agree?

Proof that we desperately NEED a health and fact based sexualy education program in all secondary schools.

http://www.afraidtoask.com/STD/index.html

NO one who has any sense will agree.

Go read and educate yourself in just how wrong you are, then go and get tested and pray you don't have anything too serious and have a good think about all the people you have passed it on to.

A person can be HIV postive and not know it and have no symtoms for years.
There are many other sti that have no tell tale signs.

St_Crispin · 15-06-2006 05:02PM

cheeky_guy wrote:

No i am certainly not joking!! Surely there is someone else on here that can releate to what i am saying. And surely there are other people on here that are laughing at the thought of using 'dental dams' when giving oral sex. 'Sorry babe ive just gotta stick these in' LOL!

No i have enver been tested and to be honest the thought of going into an STI clinic does not appeal to me very much. Have none of the other fellas out there ever ended up in bed with a girl, had no protection and just went for it anyway? STI's are a load of hype as far as im concerned. Sure some people do catch them but if you watch who you are sleeping with and as i said already, are in good health, i dont think you would ever really catch them!! SOmeone must agree?

It's like playing a lottery. The more often you play the greater the chance that your number will come up.
And your health has very little to do with it. If you're really ill with a crap immune sys your chances may go up, but you still stand a pretty good chance of catching it.

Another good comparison would be comparing it to eating raw meat (maybe a bit ick of a comparison). Sometimes you'll get off scott free because there won't be anything wrong with it. But eventually you'll get samonella or botulism or something just as nasty. So you cook it every time.

I trust my gf, but I don't trust everyone she slept with. Or everyone that her ex's slept with etc...
Not using a condom is an unnessecary risk. And if you think you're just going to be lucky you're an idiot.

Strokesfan · 15-06-2006 06:12PM

Don't panic!!! It's okay, try the mornin after pill if you're within the time limit, it was an accident I'm sure and you've learned from it... More often than not scares are scares and if it's more there are a lot of roads you can go down.
A very good way of assessing the likelyhood is to remember back to the first day of your last period (a calender might be good for this) and then count the days until you come to the day you had unprotected sex. ( Including the days during your period ) i think between the 14th and 18th day of your cycle you may be most at risk of pregnancy so if you're not around this day - there is a good probabilty that you're not pregnant. Anything is possible but don't panic - get over your pregnancy worries before you worry about STI's this time if you're totally wound up.

*marie* · 16-06-2006 11:20AM

cheeky_guy wrote:

No i have enver been tested and to be honest the thought of going into an STI clinic does not appeal to me very much. Have none of the other fellas out there ever ended up in bed with a girl, had no protection and just went for it anyway? STI's are a load of hype as far as im concerned. Sure some people do catch them but if you watch who you are sleeping with and as i said already, are in good health, i dont think you would ever really catch them!! SOmeone must agree?

A load of hype?? Oh dear.

Marksie · 19-06-2006 01:44PM

Incidence of STIs in Ireland is on the increase:
and as was pointed out earlier there are many other sti's than HIV

Cheeky guy, if he is serious is sticking his head in the sand somewhat.
Whan he says its out of proportion..
My rpimary degree was mmicrobiology and i still keep up with the subject.

It would be a lot easier if all those who had an infection or latent infection showed up with a red dot on them , but they dont.
And dont forget a carrier state occurs in many.
OK for cheeky guys benefit here is a list of common stds:
Hiv
Hep b.
Gonnhorroea
syphilis
Genital warts
herpes (type I and II now interchangeable)
Trichomona vaginalis
Chlaymidia
Candida (yes its classed as an sti)

Interestingly, a study in the states of college students showed that genital warts was extremely common with 30% of people having had them.
HPV the casuative agent of warts is implicated in cervical cancer.

So before cheeky guy rethinks his girlfriend using condoms, maybe he should rethink his attitude

r3nu4l · 19-06-2006 02:09PM

marksuttonie wrote:

Candida (yes its classed as an sti)

Candida is not an STI:

http://www.healthpromotion.ie/uploaded_docs/hput00039.pdf

http://www.nehb.ie/youthhealthne/sex%20health%20stithrush.htm

My PhD investigated treatment Candida albicans infection and resistance to therapies such as azole antifungals and Amphotericin B. I attended a lot of congress meetings and have never heard Candida described as an STI.

Candida can be passed on through sexual contact but it is not an STI! It is a normal body commensal that in certain conditions flourishes.

Most of what you have said above is corerct but that bit is not!
Can you supply a link that shows Candida considered as an STI? It would be interesting to read it.

koneko · 19-06-2006 02:09PM

cheeky_guy is either a troll, here to get a rise out of people, or he is by far one of the dumbest people to ever grace this board.

Please do post a follow-up when you've been diagnosed with an STD. Oh, sorry, you won't get the tests. Well come back when your willy turns green and looks like it's about to fall off then.

Nevyn · 19-06-2006 02:12PM

Hey personal abuse isn't tolerated here no matter how unenligthened and uneducated the person is about the facts of life and being sexually active.

Marksie · 19-06-2006 02:16PM

r3nu4l wrote:

Most of what you have said above is corerct but that bit is not!
Can you supply a link that shows Candida considered as an STI? It would be interesting to read it.

Its thrown in the STI section but states here its not calssed as an STI,
apologies

http://www.ypsh.net/sti/cand.htm

Marksie · 19-06-2006 02:19PM

and in this section it is!
http://www.rdp.org.uk/sti.html

r3nu4l · 19-06-2006 02:25PM

marksuttonie wrote:

Its thrown in the STI section but states here its not calssed as an STI,
apologies

http://www.ypsh.net/sti/cand.htm

and in this section it is!
http://www.rdp.org.uk/sti.html

No worries

they usually include Candida simply because transfer and infection can occur (assuming conditions are optimal for the yeast). A lot of researchers and physicians can see the reasons for inclding it in lists but again dislike the confusion it creates. I suppose it's a "d*mned if you do and d*mned if you don't" situation!

The Manchester GPs (rdp.org) are not specialist STI practicioners but thanks for the link. I will be contacting them and the NHS to determine the NHS official line and what can be done to clarify this. I work in Medical Communications at the moment and part of our work is defining policy for the like of the NHS through consultation with specialists (us and physicians).

Also, that first site is set up on behalf of the Central Suffolk NHS Primary Care Trust which does not apply to Ireland and believe it or not Irish and English medical classifications are quite different across a huge range of therapeutic areas.

Marksie · 19-06-2006 02:33PM

I just looked for the wee beasties

.
These days its PCR

LegacyUser · 19-06-2006 10:57PM

cheeky_guy wrote:

STI's are a load of hype as far as im concerned. Sure some people do catch them but if you watch who you are sleeping with and as i said already, are in good health, i dont think you would ever really catch them!! SOmeone must agree?

I'd seriously suggest that you stop having sex until you cop on to reality! Not only is what your saying ridiculous but what your doing is dangerous!! Have you never been taught about S.T.I's properly?? If not I suggest instead of coming on here giving ridiculous advice that u take some time and research S.T.I's yourself!! You could ruin not only your life but the lives of many of your sexual parteners if your not careful!! Its people like you and attidudes like yours that are increasing the spread of S.T.I's in our society!!!

r3nu4l · 20-06-2006 06:58AM

Here you go Cheeky_Boy.

The case of a woman with HIV, deliberately infecting her partner. Hope you never meet someone like this!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5094708.stm

Talliesin · 20-06-2006 08:21PM

Advice? wrote:

I know that technically it shouldn't be possible

Then you don't know that pre-cum has more sperm per ml than cum.

cheeky_guy wrote:

I dont believe any of that!! I think STI's are blown way out of proportion.

Actually given that they only publish details of diagnoses of notifiable infections this means that the STI rates are inherently larger than the odd forteen thousand cases reported* since there would be those who haven't been diagnosed but have an infection (like, chances are, cheeky_guy) and those with infections not on the notifiable list. So, in all the numbers are probably much greater than the 0.25% of the population (including all the virgins, babies, those who haven't gotten out of a hospital bed in 5 years etc - so more than .25% of sexually active).

Now factor in the fact that people who are having unprotected sex with several partners without knowing much about their sexual history (any similarity or likeness with people in this thread is purely coincidental) are more likely to have an STI that those who practice safer sex, are monogamous, or at least are latex-monogamous, and the percentages jump up quite a bit.

*I don't have the figures for this, so am estimating by assuming the 2003 to 2004 increase continued continually. At the time though the increase was itself increasing.

Wibbs · 20-06-2006 11:05PM

Talliesin wrote:

Then you don't know that pre-cum has more sperm per ml than cum.

Eh, then you don't know it doesn't. Not by a long way. Certainly not active sperm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-ejaculate. While not condoning risky behavior outlined above by some, a little more balance and information is better for all concerned. Regardless, Cop on, wear a condom. End of story.

spurious · 21-06-2006 05:39AM

Cheeky guy doesn't have much of a clue.....talking about 'let's stick one of these in' when speaking about a dental dam shows he has no idea what one actually is. He's a troll.

The incidence of unprotected sex among some young people is horrific, as is the incidence of young women having one night stands with much older men. The combination, in a city like Dublin which had and has such a large intravenous drugs problem is a lethal combination.

The Sweeper · 21-06-2006 07:56AM

I now have this image of Cheeky Guy thinking a dental dam looks like a sports gumshield.

As for his views on unprotected sex - he should educate himself on thrush. He may be horrified to know that even virgin men and women can have thrush, and can pass it on to each other through unprotected sex. Men may think that once the girl gets treated for 'her' problem he'll be fine - whereas he may reinfect her again and again...

Sandie-B · 21-06-2006 10:57AM

Ok just for one sec can we ignore cheeky-boys 'statements' (as disturbing as they may be) and is the original poster still here?

Have you done a pregnancy test, sweetheart? If so I hope the results are what you were hoping for and if not I hope you have someone mature and close to you that you can trust and talk to and maybe have with you when you take the test.

Once you have that sorted please please get tested!! An sti is not only a risk to you and your partner but if you are pregnant an infection can pass to your baby (usualy when the baby is passing through the birth canal) and you really don't want that to happen!!

I definitely agree with needing more sex education in schools. There was a one day class given when I was in 5th class in primary school. I was ill that week and missed it. I never had any other classes or information offered in secondary school and only for the fact that I have a really close and open relationship with my Mum I'd probably be as mis-informed and somewhat un-informed and our thread starter.

cheeky_guy · 21-06-2006 12:02PM

Look, all of you are there quoting away from your online resources. I am quoting what i have experienced in real life. Have any of you ever heard of the saying 'Better safe than sorry'? I believe that is what the aim of those info websites is.

I have told you already 90% of the women i have slept with, i have never used protection and i have NEVER caught anything. Ive never had so much as an itch and ive done all sorts of stuff. Why do people make such a big deal over this when i am telling them facts from experiences i have had myself. Not what i read on bloddy wikipedia!!
If a woman looks healthy above and below, doesnt have any unpleasant odour and is not stratching herself lol, then i believe 99% of the time she is clean. And for the other one percent to affect you is minimal if you are in good health yourself. Even if you are in poor health, it still doesnt mean you would catch it. But id still rather take the chance being healthy and strong. OP has slept with her boyfriend without a condom and you are all listing off HIV facts that must have her shaking in her boots. OP you have nothing to worry about trust me.

And yes, i do think dental dams look like gumshields but problady a little bit smaller!!

r3nu4l · 21-06-2006 12:11PM

cheeky_guy wrote:

i have NEVER caught anything. Ive never had so much as an itch and ive done all sorts of stuff.

Chlamydia is asymptomatic i.e. you don't show any symptoms of carrying it, no itch, no weird discharge, nothing but you still have it and still pass it on.

So if you have it cheeky_guy, you won't know...but...you are passing it on to others and if women become infected with Chlamydia it can make them infertile, they will never have kids, even if they want to. There are lots of examples of women out there who desperately wnat kids after they are married but then discover that they can't all because some fool who didn't want to use a condom infected them.

Wake up, act responsible and think of others for a change and not just yourself you selfish...better not risk a ban by saying what I really think of you.

Nevyn · 21-06-2006 12:24PM

http://www.emmagoldman.com/services/STI/oralsex.htm

Is it true that you can get STIs from oral sex?

Yes! Many people think they do not need to use protection during oral sex, since you cannot become pregnant from it. Herpes, warts, chlamydia, gonorrhea, and others can all be very easily transmitted between partners during oral sex, so you need to protect yourself. When performing in oral sex with a penis, you need to use a condom. When engaging in oral sex on a vagina or an anus you need to use a dental dam.

A dental dam is a sheet of latex or polyurethane that forms a barrier between one partner's mouth and the other partner's vagina or anus. These can be bought as dental dams, but they can sometimes be hard to find, and they are often quite expensive. You can make one yourself out of a condom. Here's how:

Step one: Take a condom (Non-lubricated works best so you don't get all messy during this process.), remove it from its package, and unroll it.

Step two: Cut up the condom lengthwise. Cut off the tip and the band at the bottom. For the best results, use very sharp scissors.

Step three: Place your new dental dam over the vagina and anus, making sure that the entire area is covered. Like condoms, you cannot reuse a dental dam. Use a new dam for the anus so you don't spread any infections from the anus to the vagina or vice versa. Keep your mouth on the same side of the dam at all times. If you engage in more oral sex, you need to make a new one

http://www.barnard.edu/health/dentaldams.htm
http://www.sexhealth.org/safersex/dentaldam.shtml

http://www.nehb.ie/menshealth/sexual-sti.htm

Gonorrhoea

What is it?
It is a bacterial infection. It is usually transmitted and can infect the cervix, urethra, rectum, anus and throat. It is passed by sexual contact from an infected partner to another. It is important to treat it because otherwise it may become chronic and be contagious. More rarely, it can infect the blood, skin, joints and eyes.

Symptoms

It is possible to be infected with gonorrhoea and have no symptoms. Men are far more likely to notice symptoms than women.

Chlamydia

What is Chlamydia?
A bacterial infection

How is Chlamydia passed on?

* Having sex with someone who is infected.
* A mother to her baby at birth
* Occasionally, by transferring the infection on fingers from genitals to eyes

Symptoms In Women
Most women who are infected by chlamydia will have no symptoms at all.

Syphilis

What is it?
Syphilis is a bacterial infection.

How is it passed on?
It is usually sexually transmitted. It can also be passed from an infected mother to an unborn child.

Symptoms
The signs and symptoms are both the same in both men and women. They can be difficult to recognise and may take up to three months to show after having sexual contact with an infected person.

If you are SO sure then prove it Cheekyguy go get a complete STI screening.

dudara · 21-06-2006 01:03PM

@cheekyguy

Most women who are infected by chlamydia will have no symptoms at all.

For the love of God, cop yourself on, and protect yourself and the women that you sleep with

Talliesin · 21-06-2006 01:25PM

cheeky_guy wrote:

And yes, i do think dental dams look like gumshields but problady a little bit smaller!!

Really, this says it all about how well-informed cheeky_guy is.

That or he's a troll, which seems more likely.

In all, he's someone who has the "bozo bit set" - a stopped clock who may well be right twice a day, but whose advice is best ignored for 23hrs 58mins of any given day.

Marksie · 22-06-2006 10:55AM

cheeky_guy wrote:

Look, all of you are there quoting away from your online resources. I am quoting what i have experienced in real life. Have any of you ever heard of the saying 'Better safe than sorry'? I believe that is what the aim of those info websites is.

Point: I worked in a medical labs in the uk. We had one whole section devoted to isolation/diagnosis.

As for better safe than sorry... well. does speak for itself

Zombrex · 22-06-2006 11:32AM

cheeky_guy wrote:

I have told you already 90% of the women i have slept with, i have never used protection and i have NEVER caught anything.

And you have already been told that you can't possibly know that without being fully tested, so please stop being so silly.

A large portion of sexually transmitted dieases, especially the more serious ones, can have no symptons or sympthons that are hard to notice, especially in males.

Do you not think it would be a terrible shame if you were passing on a diease to every girl you slept with that could mean she can't have children in 10 years time, or give her cirvical cancer, just because you are too silly to take sexual health seriously and educate yourself on STD infections and protection?

cheeky_guy wrote:

Ive never had so much as an itch and ive done all sorts of stuff.

What does that have to do with anything. Itching is a sympton in a small number of STDs. Most do not cause itching.

cheeky_guy wrote:

Why do people make such a big deal over this when i am telling them facts from experiences i have had myself.

Because you don't know anything, you are making rather silly and immature assumptions based on your astounding lack of knowledge on the subject (who says we need more sex ed in schools! :rolleyes:)

You don't know you don't have an STD or multiple STDs. You simply claiming you don't means nothing considering you most likely wouldn't know either way.

cheeky_guy wrote:

If a woman looks healthy above and below, doesnt have any unpleasant odour and is not stratching herself lol, then i believe 99% of the time she is clean.

You seem to know very little about STDs so I have to ask why do you believe that? Do you really believe ignorance is a defense against picking something up? "If I don't know about it I can't catch it?" that kinda thing. That is a rather silly attitude to have.

The vast vast majority of sexual transmitted infections are present and infectious long after inital infection. The girl might not have any current symptons but still be infectious. And that is for simple to treat and not serious infections. Others like the strain of HPV that causes cancer in later life have no symptions at all, and go undetected without a smear test.

cheeky_guy wrote:

And for the other one percent to affect you is minimal if you are in good health yourself.

Are you serious?

God, I hope you are a troll. I find it hard to believe someone would be this ignorant of even the most basic knowledge of STDs and basic biology.

Your health has absolutely no bearing on your defense against catching an sexual transmitted infection. That won't protect you against any sexual transmitted diease.

Seriously, where did you learn that from? Which idiot told you that? That is up there with "You can't get pregnent if you do it upside down." myth

Your personal good health will offer no protection against any sexually transmitted diease you are exposed to. Let me say that again. Your personal good health will offer no protection against any sexually transmitted diease you are exposed to.

If that is your idea of safe sex you are in serious serious trouble. Seriously, if you aren't a troll and you actually live like this, you need to get checked out as soon as possible, particularly if you are pressuring your girlfriend to have unprotected sex. Just be prepared for a bit of a shock when you get your results.

At the risk of sounding like a 12 year old...

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