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how to play top straight draw on flop out of pos

  • 01-11-2006 02:02PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47


    How to play this out of position in the following situations:


    heads up with two of the same suit on board

    4 handed in same situation

    both of the above with no flush possibility

    Lets assume our hand is AK and jt6 hits the board

    heads up with a preflop raise from the button
    heads up with a preflop raise from UTG

    3-4 handed with a preflop raise from the button
    3-4 handed with a preflop raise from UTG

    I know there are alot of questions in this and some variables missing and a hell of alot of answers. Just interested in arguments with the answers for consideration.


    One more question without posting new thread (Ehsan:-)), two line advice on how to play cash versus how to play chip games. eg tighter, looser, more aggro, less aggro. What is the best very short summary of the differences in how to play cash well


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    if you have a question from me then PM me or something but seen as your question is poker related just take my name off the post man.

    your questions re playing str draw are really silly as you have failed to give alot of much needed details.

    who is the raise from?
    what type of player?
    stack sizes?
    etc

    you cant answer your question in isolation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,895 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    how do u play poker...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    The galapagus islands . . . . .

    your questions are so vague thats probably the most relevant answer I can come up with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    342


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 sixpac911


    UTG 3.55k aggressive
    Me BB 2.4k

    Big blind 200

    UTG raises to 600
    folded round to me

    I have AKo and flat call

    flop comes Qd Td 6s
    villian bets 600
    hero??


    UTG 3.55k aggressive
    SB 4.6k
    Me BB 2.4k

    Big blind 200

    UTG raises to 600
    Folded around to SB who flat calls

    I have KQd and flat call

    flop comes Ad Th 6s
    SB bets 600
    hero???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Hand 1: All in preflop.
    Hand 2: Fold preflop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    I'll give you one little tit bit, don't bother with inside straight draws, possibly use them as a tiny bit of back up when bluffing just incase you're called, you at least have 4 outs, but in general don't bother with them, or play them VERY cheaply. Although not quite applicable to this hand, where you have 2 over cards too, but playing inside straight draws OOP, generally just check fold (unless you're offered something like 10:1), if it's all you have e.g. 56 on a 89K flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    Hand 1: All in preflop.
    Hand 2: Fold preflop
    i have found my self agreeing with ppl too much for my likeing latley (esp with you CardShark) so for that reason i disagree with this other wise its good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Hand 1: All in preflop.
    Hand 2: All-in or Fold preflop
    Same as me with one minor change, I might push PF in hand 2, but generally I'll just fold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    Hand 1 all in pre flop there is no other play here.

    Hand 2 all in or fold pre flop depending on the opponent


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 sixpac911


    what abt the preflop call in both cases? Right play? Could a push then have been a better option?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Hand 1: All in preflop.
    Hand 2: Fold preflop
    Ste05 wrote:
    Same as me with one minor change, I might push PF in hand 2, but generally I'll just fold.
    Hand 1 all in pre flop there is no other play here.

    Hand 2 all in or fold pre flop depending on the opponent

    Answered, I think.


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