Casino Royale

Vegeta · 17-11-2006 10:54am #1

Went to see this last night

While not being the best film i have seen this year, I left the cinema feeling the entrance price was worth it, unlike so many films this year.

Film makes a great start and the first 2/3 of it are fast paced and exciting then the final third is a little slower paced. The last third while not being as action packed is necessary to build/develop a relationship in the movie.

Great performances all round and Craig was very convincing as bond. I think to be honest he is the most realistic Bond, I have always thought the other Bonds to be pretty buys whereas Craig actually looks like he'd kick the sh1te out of ya and may actually be a spy/double agent

spank_inferno · 17-11-2006 1:02pm

going to cinema for the first time in a year tonight to see it.
Hope its worth it!

Sleepy · 17-11-2006 5:05pm

Very impressed with this. Craig is the closest Bond has ever been to Ian Fleming's original character and while being the grittiest, hardest Bond ever, at the same time he's possibly the most human. Great to see that the production team have finally decided to try adding a little complexity to his character. I only hope they keep it this way rather than the way they followed the last good Bond movie (Goldeneye).

Great villain and aside from one chase scene involving parkour and the finale in Venice a reasonably believable plot, Bond even drives a bog-standard Ford at one point!

There is of course the usual Bond elements of stunning women, gorgeous cars

Love the way he wins the DB5 in a card game and I almost cried when he totalled the DBS

and some good quips (although these have been substantially reduced from the cringe-inducing Bond of the Moore films.

Very, very close to how I'd love to see a Bond film done but given how unlikely that is, I'll settle for this reboot. It does drag a little in places but you'll forgive it because it does so much of the other things so well.

Rhyme · 17-11-2006 5:35pm

Fantastic film... really enjoyed it. Did anyone else catch Richard Branson's cameo?

Savman · 17-11-2006 6:22pm

Super film, good riddance to Bad Brosnan.

More of this please

parkball · 17-11-2006 6:25pm

Yep Just about. The film is very good but not breathtaking. The scenes around the casino and the hospital dragged on a little and even though I'm a Poker fan I wasn't exactly gripped by the game I hate to imagine hat non poker players thought. The Sony Ericsson, Ford and other plugs got a little too obvious in the film, very much like the Phillishave plug in Die Another Day. (At least Bond is brand loyal remember the Ericsson he used to drive the Beemer in Tommorow Never Dies)

matrim · 17-11-2006 10:58pm

Saw this last night and thought it was good. The best bond film that I've seen in a good while.

Wacker · 18-11-2006 1:21pm

I saw it early on Thursday. It was one of the most refreshing cinematic experiences I've ever had. Bond was so stale before this; he had become a parody of himself with the ridiculous gadgetry, over the top lines and totally unbelievable action (surfing an icy tsunami featuring the worst CGI ever, anyone?). This film felt real and believable, and the storyline was actually very clever without being ludicrously complex.
Daniel Craig was fantastic. I hope all those people who were demanding boycotts and the like will have the decency to admit that they were wrong about him. While Clive Owen would have been the obvious choice, there was one moment in particular

when Bond says "Do I look like I give a damn" when the bartender asks him if he wants his Vodka Martini shaken or stirred

that I don't believe Clive Owen could have pulled off half as well.

shortys94 · 18-11-2006 7:56pm

Rhyme wrote:

Fantastic film... really enjoyed it. Did anyone else catch Richard Branson's cameo?

yea i think so, when he was going through the metal detector? I knew it was him.

Kintarō Hattori · 18-11-2006 11:08pm

Rhyme wrote:

Fantastic film... really enjoyed it. Did anyone else catch Richard Branson's cameo?

Yeah I saw that too, was good.

I thought the Miss. Money Penny joke was quite funny.

BKtje · 18-11-2006 11:31pm

saw this tonight as well. Very enjoyable i must say and im looking forward to seeing it again tomorrow

(havent done that with a bond film lately)

cooperguy · 18-11-2006 11:48pm

Saw it thursday night thought it was one of the best yet. And I liked the Parkour chase, it showed Bond as human navigating the obstacles alot less gracefully than the guy he was chasing. In fact the whole movie humanised Bond as opposed to the invincable super hero he was becoming in previous movies

watever · 19-11-2006 12:10am

I just don't see the appeal of James Bond movies. I mean there have been so many of them. Its basically the same thing in each movie with different bad guys in each movie!

Mr. Presentable · 19-11-2006 12:21am

Saw the original today. Brilliant!!

Saw the new one yesterday. Meh!

behy · 19-11-2006 1:49am

seen it today. not great.

started well but went downhill for me

cant have a bond without gadgets

scaramanga · 19-11-2006 1:52am

craig impressive, good flick kinda dragged a bit in the third 1/4
8/10

jesus_thats_gre · 19-11-2006 2:25pm

Really happy with this film. Though the new Bond suited the role very well - quite surprised actually. Probably the best Bond I have seen in the cinema (first was Goldeneye by the way). Quality action all the way through!

Blow Me · 19-11-2006 9:45pm

bond loses the first big hand of poker, but after buying back in, he wins all the money back

and bond gets betrayed by the the bond girl, vesper lynd, she gives all the money to the bad guys

Kintarō Hattori · 19-11-2006 10:00pm

Blow Me wrote:

bond loses the first big hand of poker, but after buying back in, he wins all the money back

and bond gets betrayed by the the bond girl, vesper lynd, she gives all the money to the bad guys

You should use spolier tags my man! Not everyone looking at this thread will have seen the movie.

ninebeanrows · 19-11-2006 10:05pm

I thought it was very good, was too many dragging scenes for it to be excellant.. a definate 7/10.... was very impressed

~Rebel~ · 20-11-2006 12:48am

Thought it was absolutely fantastic - right up till he

was released from the torture scene. The whole love, relationship thing lasted way too long for a bond film. Totally took the momentum out of the film, it was like it was waiting to end for 30mins, then had a little flurry of activity and was over. I know all the relationshipness was necessary for the ending, but they could have done it gradually over the course of the film instead of shovelling it all in at the end.

That really disappointed me a lot, as when i left my first memories were of the meh'ness instead of all the quality that preceeded it.

One other thing didnt like was

too much "all in'ing" in the poker game. Fair enough, culminate with a big one, but would have preferred they built to that a bit more subtly rather then - ALL IN! lose. Buy back in, suddenly hes got loads of money out of the blue and ALL IN!!! again..

seems like im sayin a lot of bad, but beyond those things i thought everything else was nigh on perfect! Loved how cold he was, yet still kept the classic bond quips and charm, as well as the humanness, needing to use his quick thinking to beat the guy seemingly made of rubber.

kinaldo · 20-11-2006 1:16am

I'm lost as to what exactly the difference is between this thread and Casino Royale thread in the film reviews section...

~Rebel~ · 20-11-2006 1:55am

no idea, hence why i just posted my thoughts in both, but with a score in the review one!

meowCat · 20-11-2006 2:30pm

I really enjoyed that movie. I agree that he is possibly the most believable Bond, not just another pretty face.

Additionally, I really enjoyed the chasing scenes. Especially the one at the building site as it's really fast paced and it's less predictable than the typical Bond chasing scenes. One of the best scenes of that film!

Btw, does anyone know who played Le Chiffre's girlfriend? I tried to look it up on imdb, but there's no mention of her. The face looks very familiar, but I just cannot place her anywhere.

Vokes · 20-11-2006 2:37pm

Valenka is played by Ivana Milicevic

meowCat · 20-11-2006 2:40pm

cool. Thanks SofaKing. Seems she's just one of those people that appear here and there in shows on telly (charmed, las vegas, etc....and she was one of the American girls in Love Actually).

Cerutti · 20-11-2006 6:09pm

Rhyme wrote:

Fantastic film... really enjoyed it. Did anyone else catch Richard Branson's cameo?

Yes! In the airport! Im so glad you brought that up for a while I thought I was absolutely krazy.

J.R.HARTLEY · 20-11-2006 6:44pm

parkball wrote:

The Sony Ericsson, Ford and other plugs got a little too obvious in the film, very much like the Phillishave plug in Die Another Day. (At least Bond is brand loyal remember the Ericsson he used to drive the Beemer in Tommorow Never Dies)

it was a very good film but agree totally about the product placement, all phones were sony ericsson the laptops were Vaio and when bond is gathering Vespers belongings on the boat near the end, there is a black sony product, could be a palmtop, it was not her phone that was white, branson cameo'ed just before the chase scene gave us a lingering look at a Virgin atlantic plane in the background, but the most shameful plug for me was that they actually made a point of having bond state he wears an Omega watch,and how long was the evian water bottle in the train shot too?

Nuttzz · 20-11-2006 8:05pm

or the ford car, product placement has been a factor of bond films in recent years

Savman · 20-11-2006 10:11pm

Product placement doesnt bother me unless its really so obvious it just takin the p***.

Sony, Ford etc. are all global names so I don't see the problem with having them included in a movie that's trying to be as realistic as possible. They fit the movie imo.

Creamy Goodness · 20-11-2006 10:17pm

J.R.HARTLEY wrote:

but the most shameful plug for me was that they actually made a point of having bond state he wears an Omega watch

i actually quite liked that line.

bond has and always will be known for his choice in watches. Omega has been bond's choice ever since Goldeneye so it's not like they were just paid off to get bond to wear an omega watch.

J.R.HARTLEY · 21-11-2006 1:09pm

Cremo wrote:

i actually quite liked that line.

bond has and always will be known for his choice in watches. Omega has been bond's choice ever since Goldeneye so it's not like they were just paid off to get bond to wear an omega watch.

thats truethey were, since goldeneye Omega have been furnishing the watches used free gratis, in return either Q presents him with an Omega, he finds it in a Chinese agents lair or he just casually mentions it. it's not a big deal but it's a little annoying to think someone involved in the movie spent there time trying to flog you stuff rather than make you enjoy the movie

Patricide · 21-11-2006 7:21pm

I thought this bond was terrible, well it was better than everything after goldeneye but still not great, the plot seemed to move from irrelivent point to irrelivent point. The first scene has Pretty much nothing to do with the rest of the film(well it does obviously but it doesnt warrent a big action scene).

As for people saying that this was the most human bond in recent years, How many average everyday blokes do you know that know how to freerun that good, i mean climing up cranes and all that.

My biggest gripe with the film was just after the torture scene it feels like the film is gonna end, but it doesnt and Draggs out a pretty much non existant relationship between bond and whats her name, for about an hour.

User45701 · 22-11-2006 1:21pm

It was a good movie i enjoyed it but it was not what i was looking for.
I don't like that parkour thing or however you spell it ive never found it entertaining to watch and the music that is with the parkour movies is always shight but it was a good opening sequence

Rest of the movie was good but its not amazing, i loved the car flip scene tho

lostexpectation · 22-11-2006 7:45pm

eo980 wrote:

Yeah I saw that too, was good.

I thought the Miss. Money Penny joke was quite funny.

huh...... oh....... lol

lostexpectation · 22-11-2006 7:51pm

~Rebel~ wrote:

Thought it was absolutely fantastic - right up till he
was released from the torture scene. The whole love, relationship thing lasted way too long for a bond film. Totally took the momentum out of the film, it was like it was waiting to end for 30mins, then had a little flurry of activity and was over. I know all the relationshipness was necessary for the ending, but they could have done it gradually over the course of the film instead of shovelling it all in at the end.
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yeah that was a bit long, did anyoner see the prog about the bond themes it was very interesting, em what ya think of chris cornells, seemed like just another of his songs...

J.R.HARTLEY · 22-11-2006 10:57pm

ok i am biased as a fan, but i didn't care muc for it at the start, but after 5 or 6 listens it's really growing on me, especially with the images from the movie in my head, that really helps

KamiKazi · 23-11-2006 12:08pm

great movie, 10/10.

loved the line "the whole world will know that you died scratching my balls"

cooperguy · 23-11-2006 7:20pm

User45701 wrote:

It was a good movie i enjoyed it but it was not what i was looking for.
I don't like that parkour thing or however you spell it ive never found it entertaining to watch and the music that is with the parkour movies is always shight but it was a good opening sequence

Rest of the movie was good but its not amazing, i loved the car flip scene tho

I didnt like the car flip scene, no sports car would ever do that. Plus they ruined a very very sexy car!!

24-11-2006 12:07am

I saw it last night and was greatly impressed. It's easily the best Bond film. I always said that Craig would make a great Bond and it was nice to be proven right. He portrayed Bond as humane, but with a dark edge resting just below the surface.

pbsuxok1znja4r · 24-11-2006 11:37am

Deleted User wrote:

but with a dark edge resting just below the surface.

Haha people really need to stop saying things like that. "Bubbly on the surface but dark, with a smooth, creamy centre and edgy toppings" :rolleyes:

Yeah I thought this was good. Especially when compared with the last few abominable Bond films. Craig seems the toughest Bond since Connery, too. The fighting was so much better than in possibly any previous Bonds. It used to be a case where Bond would walk up behind some goon, judo chop him once and he'd fall down unconscious :rolleyes:
I thought Eva green was a bit crap, though.

wasper · 26-11-2006 2:03pm

I thought this 007 was bad. Better than Brosnan's films but still bad. He is too PC. There are no hot women, no one liners apart from a joke here or there. Even the song title sounded like a Eurovision entry. The start of the film animation looked like a Beatles Yellow submarine flower revolution theme.
It started very well with chase, but soon went down hill from there.
There is no Q, no gadgets apart from the Defibulator which is already on the market.
The casino game plan is to fleece the villian into submission is very implausible nor respecting our intelligence.
This film didn't do it for me.
If they conitnue with trend then it will be the last Bond film for me.

26-11-2006 2:24pm

scouser.tommy wrote:

Haha people really need to stop saying things like that. "Bubbly on the surface but dark, with a smooth, creamy centre and edgy toppings" :rolleyes:

But it's true. Compare it to Brosnan's one dimensional performances.

senordingdong · 26-11-2006 2:30pm

This would have been the best Bond film for me but I feel it falls short on it's explanation of the timeline...and the tasteless Sony plugs.

All that aside...I would have called this a perfect film.

As for all the Brosnin dissing...I hated the last few Bond films....except Goldeneye....it remains as one of my all time favourites.

LordSutch · 26-11-2006 3:49pm

Ten out of ten for me (as a huge Bond fan) and I think Daniel Craig is a Great Bond, possibly rivalling Sean Connery for tough, rugged, brutal, believeable violence with a little charm & sophistication thrown in for good measure

I had read that the film was a little long winded for some, but I was presently surprised and a little sad when it abruptly ended!

Really looking forward to the next installment from Mr Craig ..................

10/10 Brilliant!

r3nu4l · 26-11-2006 4:08pm

DC was a great bond, fantastic. I too found the

development of the love scene

to be out of pace, also there was little sense of time passing and it looked like Bond was

shagging Vesper very quickly after having his manhood practically destroyed!

.

Overall I found the camera-work in the fight scenes to be excellent and at times found myself gripping the seat as if I was in the fight myself

Agree with the comment about the Parkour scene, it was great to see Bond struggle with the jumps rather than make him out to be some kind of invincible man

A big plus for me is that I saw it in Cambridge and who was sitting very close to me in the cinema only Prof Stephen Hawking himself :cool:

If Bond films are good enough for him, they're good enough for me

Running Bing · 26-11-2006 8:55pm

The Ford scene was almost inexcusable for me. I know product placement has been a part of bond films for years and I accept that as that seems to be the way the world is going but this movie absolutely berated the viewer with brands at every opportunity. It got to the point were it significantly detracted from the movie.

As for the ford scene, it has to be the most grotesque repulsive cynical manipulation of a film for a companies benefit ever. It actually could have been a ford ad on tv. BOND DOES NOT DRIVE A FORD. I know people waffle on about how it makes it more realistic but bond is not realistic hes a fictional character and one that is in serious danger of being destroyed by corporate greed.

Caked Karen · 26-11-2006 9:45pm

I really really enjoyed it

Thought it was great and considering i wasnt too excited when i heard Daniel Craig got the role, I am well impressed now. I though Clive Owen would have been great at it but I must hold my hands up and say that Craig was good in it although his kinda poute (sp?) wrecks my head but that was made of for when he came out of the water in the Bahamas (think that was the make up for all the years of hot ladies coming out of the water for us girls!!)

I think the Ford scene is being looked into abit too much...in all fairness if we went on holidays, that is so a car that would be hired out to us! thats they way i thought of it and let it go!

I loved "Sorry about that, the last hand nearly killed me!" - Brilliant!

Running Bing · 26-11-2006 10:09pm

Caked Karen wrote:

I think the Ford scene is being looked into abit too much...in all fairness if we went on holidays, that is so a car that would be hired out to us! !

Exactly my point. Are you james bond? It cheapens the character and if you believe it was made like that to be realistic then im afraid your very naive.

Caked Karen · 26-11-2006 10:34pm

but was he not just becoming a 00. i mean when i seen it i always knew that there was going to be an aston appearing like! I'm not naive, im just giving an opinion that he was told to take a break by M and he went to the Bahamas and got a car. Maybe the fact that he one the other car was part of it. i mean he was never going to be seen in that car again.

i agree that it was like a car advert but i just think that the regular car showed some (if only the smallest) significance that he had just become a 00!

CrowdedHouse · 26-11-2006 10:54pm

senordingdong wrote:

.and the tasteless Sony plugs.

Er...It's made by Sony Pictures,what do you expect Nokia and Dell ?

Casino Royale

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