Reasons to Vote for Fianna Fail

Money Shot · 08-05-2007 04:32PM #1

If I asked for reasons Not to vote for Fianna Fail, this thread would be 10 pages long by this time tomorrow.

Apart from being in a coma for the last ten years, can anyone explain to me why anyone in their right mind should vote for Fianna Fail this time round, remembering certain buzz words like crime, health, education, infastructure, environment and so on and so forth., ?

I only ask because I can't think of any of hand.....

Mailman · 08-05-2007 04:42PM

Because they have destroyed the economy but the money hasn't run out yet so there is still a feel good factor out there.
Fianna Fail need to be in power when it goes bang then when the next government is elected they will be elected with a mandate to correct our economy\public service\taxation policies.
If FF get thrown out now they will escape blame and will brazenly claim to be the solution to everything come the next election.

Like in France, the people have given Sarkozy a clear mandate for change. We need the same here.

At present FF are offering more of the same and the opposition don't want to rock the boat as the public can't see a problem with the Economy.

Dave! · 08-05-2007 04:42PM

I think 'corruption' is turning into a buzz-word too

Actually no, 'payments' is.

I can't think of any reason to vote FF except for they've been in power for the last 10 years and there didn't happen to be a recession in that time, lol

delta_bravo · 08-05-2007 04:45PM

Im almost guaranteed to get slated for this but I suppose a reason for voting would be that the unemployment rate has been so low for most of their tenure.

Sully · 08-05-2007 04:48PM

delta_bravo wrote:

Im almost guaranteed to get slated for this but I suppose a reason for voting would be that the unemployment rate has been so low for most of their tenure.

A change seems to be on the card tho.. a lot of companies are moving out of Ireland and people are strating to complain that FF have not done anything to stop it.

08-05-2007 04:54PM

delta_bravo wrote:

Im almost guaranteed to get slated for this but I suppose a reason for voting would be that the unemployment rate has been so low for most of their tenure.

Please don't mention stats about the economy. Don't mention the economy at all, or the transformation in the North. Don't mention that ririsng crime is hardly unique to Ireland, that everyone (bar the French, apparently) complains about their health system but it has improved etc. etc.

Do you have an anecdote about being stuck in traffic in Dublin by any chance?

Money Shot · 08-05-2007 05:11PM

Deleted User wrote:

Please don't mention stats about the economy. Don't mention the economy at all, or the transformation in the North. Don't mention that rising crime is hardly unique to Ireland, that everyone (bar the French, apparently) complains about their health system but it has improved etc. etc.

I totally agree that Bertie seems far more concerned with getting himself in the history books for his involvement in the Northern issue than the dull bread and butter of domestic politics. Crime is out of control, and he doesn't even see it as a problem. I'm sure a lot of people can offer anecdotes where they have been effected by crime - I know I can.
Are you suggesting that the economy we have now is soley due to FF's brilliant management of the economy and not the many other cyclical and economic reasons ?

Do you have an anecdote about being stuck in traffic in Dublin by any chance?

Sadly, it's not just anecotal evidence that can be put forward here. I have been all over europe, eastern europe and most cities, and even very poor cities have far superior, integrated and cheap transport solutions for their cities. Shall we take Prague as an example - fantastic underground system, trams, busses - all work well and connect. 12 pence a ride.

In summation I see where you are coming from - there is no problem and we are all being over the top. This is Bertie's stance on Crime, health etc...

RalphCifaretto · 08-05-2007 05:13PM

To ensure Enda Kenny isn't elected Taoiseach.

patsyh · 08-05-2007 05:13PM

Why vote Fianna Fail?

Because look at the alternative government.

Múinteoir · 08-05-2007 05:42PM

delta_bravo wrote:

Im almost guaranteed to get slated for this but I suppose a reason for voting would be that the unemployment rate has been so low for most of their tenure.

The economy was already growing at a rate of 8% in 1997, when this current government took office, so that's actually a very weak argument for their competance. The boom was already in progress, yet FF/PD would love you to believe that they pulled the CT of a hat on the day they entered office.

cm2000 · 08-05-2007 06:01PM

-because the vast majority of us are an awful lot wealthier now than we were ten years ago
-in 2006 the united nations development index showed us as having the 4th best standard of living in the world -this includes more than just gdp-
-the north of ireland is now in a state of peace
-in brian cowen we have a great future taoiseach
-the alternative (with particular reference to the labor party) has never produced a consistently good economy
-two and a half years of being minister for tourism is not good enough experience for the leader of this country

wow sierra · 08-05-2007 06:13PM

cm2000 wrote:

-because the vast majority of us are an awful lot wealthier now than we were ten years ago
-in 2006 the united nations development index showed us as having the 4th best standard of living in the world -this includes more than just gdp-
-the north of ireland is now in a state of peace
-in brian cowen we have a great future taoiseach
-the alternative (with particular reference to the labor party) has never produced a consistently good economy
-two and a half years of being minister for tourism is not good enough experience for the leader of this country

Thank you - I was too lazy to type all that myself!!!!

Also thank you Fianna Fáil for leading the way with the Smoking Ban - it is awful now to be in a pub anywhere abroad.

Fianna Fáil are being blamed for everything that is wrong with the Country but getting no credit for the positives - that is so illogical its pathetic.

Someone put up a poll on Boards looking for the most important issues in the election and didnt mention the Economy as an option - back in the old days it was the ONLY issue - unemployment, emigration etc etc.

cm2000 · 08-05-2007 06:21PM

wow sierra wrote:

Also thank you Fianna Fáil for leading the way with the Smoking Ban - it is awful now to be in a pub anywhere abroad.

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good point it would have never happened with fine gael and their protecting the farming lifestyle etc.
also over one million people have also been give thousands of euro through the SSIA scheme

Time Magazine · 08-05-2007 06:24PM

cm2000 wrote:

also over one million people have also been give thousands of euro through the SSIA scheme

Lol, they were just given it were they?

It wasn't theirs in the first place, no?

Vote for FF if you agree Official Development Aid should be five years behind target. If you think those bloody Africans don't need their aid, vote for Bertie's team.

Elmo · 08-05-2007 06:25PM

-the alternative (with particular reference to the labor party) has never produced a consistently good economy

A Labour Finance Minister got a surplus in his last year in office, was that Ireland's first surplus?. During a 5 year term which saw Ireland go from a weak country (with a FF/PD government) to a strong country (with a FF/PD government).

Reason to vote FF: -

If they get a majority they won't need the PD's.

McSandwich · 08-05-2007 06:33PM

Deleted User wrote:

Please don't mention stats about the economy. Don't mention the economy at all, or the transformation in the North. Don't mention that ririsng crime is hardly unique to Ireland, that everyone (bar the French, apparently) complains about their health system but it has improved etc. etc.

Do you have an anecdote about being stuck in traffic in Dublin by any chance?

So should I put my head back in the sand then and hope they sort it out in the next 5 years?

InFront · 08-05-2007 06:41PM

cm2000 wrote:

wow sierra wrote:

Also thank you Fianna Fáil for leading the way with the Smoking Ban

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good point it would have never happened with fine gael and their protecting the farming lifestyle

You'll have to explain this one, what has that got to do with an agricultural lifestyle?

McSandwich · 08-05-2007 06:45PM

To ensure Enda Kenny isn't elected Taoiseach.

Why vote Fianna Fail?

Because look at the alternative government.

Are there no better reasons to vote Fianna Fail, are they really that uninspiring? I'm glad I didn't come here to help make my mind up.

Change sounds even more appealing after that (if I wasn't convinced enough..)

cm2000 · 08-05-2007 06:46PM

plenty. there is a pub culture within rural communities where smoking was a huge part. unlike in cities where smoking started to become unattractive and increasingly regarded as unnacceptable, in rural areas this wasn't really the case and opposition to the ban was strongest in these areas.

InFront · 08-05-2007 06:50PM

I'll take your word for it, sounds like a bit of a stretch. Are you sure you're not thinking of the cafe-bars and McDowell?

McSandwich · 08-05-2007 06:50PM

cm2000 wrote:

plenty. there is a pub culture within rural communities where smoking was a huge part. unlike in cities where smoking started to become unattractive and increasingly regarded as unnacceptable, in rural areas this wasn't really the case and opposition to the ban was strongest in these areas.

Sorry, you must be smoking some real strong stuff to come out with something like that...:D

I know lots of farmers included most who think that the smoking ban was a great idea (as I did). Not all culchies smoke you know..

patzer117 · 08-05-2007 06:55PM

eh, how about because they've the most experience at running the best economy in Europe? because Bertie's well respected and liked at home and abroad? because they've created 1 million jobs while cutting taxes and improving services? that we've had budget surpluses for 8 of the past 10 years? because our standard of living is the highest in the EU? Because they've increased the minimum wage to one of the highest in Europe lifting lots of people out of poverty? because our unemployment rate is the lowest it's ever been?

hmm, also, I'll be voting Fianna Fail because Fine Gael haven't agreed what they'll do with Labour. That they haven't costed everything but STILL are forecasting a budget deficit if our economy slows be even .2%
And for the poster who talked about Third World Aid? Because Fine Gael mysteriously left that out of their election spending manifesto - yep, nowhere to be seen, a great big 500 million black hole where there used to be third world aid.
Or maybe because Enda Kenny is a lightweight politician who doesn't know how to handle his brief, which is why Richard Bruton has been their front man this campaign? Or because Labour have decided to sell out and cut taxes? Perhaps you think that Labour and Fine Gael's plan to send the Health Service down the river by investing 2 billion in the private health care system by providing all U16's with private health insurance, instead of putting it into the public sector? Or maybe it's cause your fed up of Fine Gael saying "we want the nurses to be paid" when they've the exact same position as Fianna Fail on the strike? or maybe you disagree with the idea of the Greens (yes, they'll be in the Rainbow) deciding to cut the size of the Dail? or of raising capital gain's tax to 25% taking a hell of a lot of value out of our economy, especially the construction and investment section which is entirely based on Capital gains?

Or maybe you'd vote Fianna Fail because you like that class sizes have been reduced dramatically and there are more teachers in training than ever before? that more people are in third level education than ever before? that state pensions are higher than ever before? or that generally we're better off than we have ever been, all thanks to Fianna Fail??

I'll be voting for them because I'm scared of the inexperienced opposition and their foolish spending plans

McSandwich · 08-05-2007 07:07PM

patzer117 wrote:

eh, how about because they've the most experience at running the best economy in Europe? because Bertie's well respected and liked at home and abroad?

Except in Germany, Frau Merkel seems immune to his charm...

http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=29376-qqqx=1.asp

patzer117 · 08-05-2007 07:09PM

McSandwich wrote:

Except in Germany, Frau Merkel seems immune to his charm...

yeah, that was the real thrust of my arguement, i'm defeated now, you've beaten me!

McSandwich · 08-05-2007 07:20PM

patzer117 wrote:

yeah, that was the real thrust of my arguement, i'm defeated now, you've beaten me

:rolleyes:

Sorry, that was meant as light relief. However, you lost me with:

improving services?

Fianna Fail haven't managed to get the most basic of services right, i.e. clean drinking water that doesn't lead to a long wait in a crumbling A&E dept:

http://www.politics.ie/news_index.php?topic_id=18933

patzer117 · 08-05-2007 07:29PM

McSandwich wrote:

Sorry, that was meant as light relief. However, you lost me with:

Fianna Fail haven't managed to get the most basic of services right, i.e. clean drinking water that doesn't require a visit to a crumbling A&E dept:

http://www.politics.ie/news_index.php?topic_id=18933

ok, sorry, that's kinda funny so...

on this though they actually gave 20 million to Galway co co to improve their water supply a while back, but Galway Co. Co. couldn't agree on how to spend it so the money was taken back...
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2003/0218/1961080055HM5RURALWATER.html

if you can't get to that just google it, but i'll take a few passages from it

€100m to improve drinking water quality

By Alison Healy
Tuesday, February 18, 2003

Minister for the Environment, Mr Cullen,... yesterday:

He was announcing details of a €100 million fund which will be spent on rural water supplies this year. County councils receiving the largest grant allocations include Monaghan, Galway, Cavan, Clare and Mayo.

...

A new water services Bill will be introduced later this year to give local authorities the power to take over the running of water schemes if they have not met the necessary standards by next year.

so really that was a County Council problem, not a central government one... but again this is getting derailed... I'll happily tackle any issue you give me though

daveirl · 08-05-2007 07:36PM

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InFront · 08-05-2007 07:37PM

patzer117 wrote:

so really that was a County Council problem,

I see you decided to leave out the first sentance of that article

Substandard rural water supplies will be eliminated during the lifetime of this Government, the Minister for the Environment, Mr Cullen, said yesterday.

Now if he can make a promise like that, regardless of whose behalf he makes it on, he is the guy who should take the rap when it doesn't happen. This shifting of blame is cowardly and undignified.

Failure to admit a mistake makes the issue far worse. We had Micheal Martin blaming the civil servants for the nursing homes fiasco, Harney blaming everybody but herself for the continued health crisis, even Bertie blaming the opposition for electronic voting: why on earth can't anyone in that Government bear any responsibility?

McSandwich · 08-05-2007 07:50PM

patzer117 wrote:

so really that was a County Council problem, not a central government one... but again this is getting derailed... I'll happily tackle any issue you give me though

Yeah, I read about this and it's unbelievable. However, pollution of a major waterway and the epidemic which followed are both national issues. The depts. of Environment and Health should've taken control and prevented the situation from arising, sorted out the problems, and then put the council in line.

These problems are not restricted to Galway, the water supply in Ennis has been undrinkable for over 2 years with nothing done. The problems stem from bad agricultural practice and inadequate waste treatment for new housing developments (why was planning permission granted?). These problems were not difficult to foresee...

leninbenjamin · 08-05-2007 07:54PM

patzer117 wrote:

ok, sorry, that's kinda funny so...

on this though they actually gave 20 million to Galway co co to improve their water supply a while back, but Galway Co. Co. couldn't agree on how to spend it so the money was taken back...
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2003/0218/1961080055HM5RURALWATER.html

if you can't get to that just google it, but i'll take a few passages from it

so really that was a County Council problem, not a central government one... but again this is getting derailed... I'll happily tackle any issue you give me though

that's one of the very problems with Fianna Faíl though isn't it? throwing money down the feckin plughole? it's no good throwing money at a problem if you can't find a way to spend it effectively yourself.

McSandwich · 08-05-2007 08:00PM

daveirl wrote:

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They worked well last time, they also left the economy in a better state than it's in now, i.e. we were more competitive, had more exports, and were less reliant on construction.

- The Economy (not what people think, I'm utterly convinced it's going down the tubes and we might aswell let FF go down with it!)

Or give an alternative a chance to put it right, again..

patzer117 · 08-05-2007 08:02PM

wow! it's not up to Fianna Fail, or Fine Gael and Labour, to provide the water, it's up to the county council. The government aren't responsible for things the county council does or doesn't do - you don't blame the government if the county council allows high rise apartments, and they don't get any credit if they get rejected etc.

inFront wrote:

Substandard rural water supplies will be eliminated during the lifetime of this Government, the Minister for the Environment, Mr Cullen, said yesterday.

The government provided the necessary funds. No other government could do better than that, as i said before it's a county council issue, if the funds are provided then you can't blame the government. they, in this case, did everything in their power to eliminate substandard rural water supplies etc.

leninbenjamin · 08-05-2007 08:06PM

patzer117 wrote:

wow! it's not up to Fianna Fail, or Fine Gael and Labour, to provide the water, it's up to the county council. The government aren't responsible for things the county council does or doesn't do - you don't blame the government if the county council allows high rise apartments, and they don't get any credit if they get rejected etc.

The government provided the necessary funds. No other government could do better than that, as i said before it's a county council issue, if the funds are provided then you can't blame the government. they, in this case, did everything in their power to eliminate substandard rural water supplies etc.

surely the government should have had proper plans in place for that money? i.e. "we'll give you €X if you build/do Y". Money without a plan is just thrown away.

and don't the goverment create the legal framework with which in the local councils operate? you can't obsolve them of blame entirely. I'm a firm believer of "it takes two to tango".

daveirl · 08-05-2007 08:18PM

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cm2000 · 08-05-2007 08:20PM

McSandwich wrote:

They worked well last time, they also left the economy in a better state than it's in now, i.e. we were more competitive, had more exports, and were less reliant on construction.

Or give an alternative a chance to put it right, again..

we were competitive largely because in 1997 our wages were poor. now part of the reason that we have lost some competitivness-though not much given our near full employment- is because we have high wages

murphaph · 08-05-2007 08:37PM

If you like being allowed to drive untrained and untested on a provisional licence vote FF*

*Don't give me any BS about this also being the status in 1997 because FF have had a DECADE in which to sort out driver testing and training and haven't bothered.

patzer117 · 08-05-2007 08:38PM

leninbenjamin wrote:

surely the government should have had proper plans in place for that money? i.e. "we'll give you €X if you build/do Y". Money without a plan is just thrown away.

Exactly! and that's Exactly what they did do! They gave the county council 20 million to improve the water in the area, the county council couldn't agree to do it, so it wasn't spent - it wasn't allowed to be spent on anything else, and it wasn't! so yes, you're completely right, and Fianna Fail did just that

InFront · 08-05-2007 08:47PM

Are you telling us that FF gave twenty million euro of taxpayers money to a bunch of incompetents, and were not even watching what they were doing with the money?
Cullen said "Substandard rural water supplies will be eliminated during the lifetime of this Government", not "the lifetime of that county council". It was clear that he was making a promise on behalf of his party, and it has completely backfired.

leninbenjamin · 08-05-2007 08:54PM

patzer117 wrote:

Exactly! and that's Exactly what they did do! They gave the county council 20 million to improve the water in the area, the county council couldn't agree to do it, so it wasn't spent - it wasn't allowed to be spent on anything else, and it wasn't! so yes, you're completely right, and Fianna Fail did just that

did they tell them which facilities to expand, which to revamp and what to build outright new? doesn't sound like it. a plan is different to mere intent. the money by the sounds of it was intended to better the water supply, but there was no specific plan in place as to how this was done.

patzer117 · 08-05-2007 08:57PM

oh for goodness sake, enough of the Water issue. No party is making an issue of this because they all know it was the fault of the county council!

To get it straight - they did not waste tax payer's money. the money wasn't spent. it could not have been spent on anything but the water treatment. the county council couldn't agree on how to spend it best on water treatment so it wasn't spent. The government does not have any input as to how exactly it is spent, it can only say that it must be spent on water. no micro-managing leninbenjamin (hell, if you read the article above you'd realise all the other cocos did just fine and that it was a broader water plan which was designed well and worked grand)

The reason the pledge hasn't been fulfilled fully is not because of any failure on Fianna Fail or Martin Cullen's part, but rather on the part of a county council. Fianna Fail did everything in its power to clean up rural water supplies. They could not have done any more. They do not have the power to decide exactly how Galway County Council can spend the money. They can only say it must be spent on water. I challenge you to point out any different course that could have been take inFront, because it seems you're being hypocritical - you've no better solution but yet you still don't like it.

how about if you don't have a solution to the problem, or if you can't point out what could have been done differently to help Galway's water problem, well then we get onto a more important issue that a government may actually have an input on?!?

C'mon, challenge some of the proper stuff I said above... the real reasons why people should vote Fianna Fail

fly_agaric · 08-05-2007 08:58PM

patzer117 wrote:

wow! it's not up to Fianna Fail, or Fine Gael and Labour, to provide the water, it's up to the county council.

Which political party(s) control the council(s) involved here?:)

InFront · 08-05-2007 09:03PM

patzer117 wrote:

oh for goodness sake, enough of the Water issue.

Yeh, I bet the people of Galway find it boring too.

To get it straight - they did not waste tax payer's money. the money wasn't spent.

The fact that you don't see the latter as a problem is almost funny.

Fianna Fail did everything in its power to clean up rural water supplies. They could not have done any more.

You're saying that the Government of this country are simply incapable of providing clean water? This isn't India you know. Why do you think a Government is incapable of directing funds to ensure their promises are delivered?

I challenge you to point out any different course that could have been take inFront

If I was giving someone twenty million euro, I'd want to be sure they knew what to do with it. Stop trying to pass the buck, it's a FF screw up

Elmo · 08-05-2007 09:04PM

how about if you don't have a solution to the problem, or if you can't point out what could have been done differently to help Galway's water problem, well then we get onto a more important issue that a government may actually have an input on?!?

I am fairly certain that the government should make sure its waters are clean so that all of its citizen can drink that water and that business may use that water. The issue had been raised on several occassions. Both local and national politican's owe it to the people to make sure that thinks like this don't happen. Water is a huge part of people's lives, its hugely important.

Also you will note that Labour brought in Free education hence the reason why so many people now go to college.

Greendale Community School closed this week, I wonder what plans the government have for this school.

leninbenjamin · 08-05-2007 09:07PM

patzer117 wrote:

To get it straight - they did not waste tax payer's money.

i'm not saying they did, i'm just saying its reflective of a general attitude. throw money at a problem and hope it goes away without coming up with any real solutions/reforms that are necessary.

to go away from the water issue, the health system is another exampleof what i'm trying to point out here. they continually point out how we are spending more than ever on it blah blah blah... yet the actual two tier blurry lined system that's in place is a complete and utter mess (govt. effectively subsidising the private sector at the expense of the public for example). they've had 10 years to reform it, jet they've just aggravated it further in that time.

edit: oh and forgive me from pushing the whole water issue, but my sh*ts are still a bit runny.

Elmo · 08-05-2007 09:08PM

The government are over spending on bad management.

patzer117 · 08-05-2007 09:08PM

i sincerely hope you're just winding me up now InFront. It's not an election issue because nobody else could do any different. It's why changing the title Taoiseach isn't an issue - everyone agrees on it. If you don't understand the principals of centralised government on an issue that all the parties agree on well maybe politics isn't the thing for you. It's not a FF screw up by any means as I've explained. how about you tackle the big issues and stop trying to derail this thread?

leninbenjamin · 08-05-2007 09:09PM

patzer117 wrote:

i sincerely hope you're just winding me up now InFront. It's not an election issue because nobody else could do any different.

it is for some thank you very much.

patzer117 · 08-05-2007 09:11PM

leninbenjamin wrote:

to go away from the water issue, the health system is another exampleof what i'm trying to point out here. they continually point out how we are spending more than ever on it blah blah blah... yet the actual two tier blurry lined system that's in place is a complete and utter mess (govt. effectively subsidising the private sector at the expense of the public for example). they've had 10 years to reform it, jet they've just aggravated it further in that time.

glad to hear we're over it. Waiting lists have been cut by 50% in the past year for example, it's a huge problem, and it's not going to be solved easily, but it certainly won't be solved with FG and Labour taking 2 billion and giving it to the private sector by providing all Under 16s with free health insurance? that's pumping money directly from the public sector into the private sector. so you've identified a big problem with the govt. over subsidising the private sector, but now realise that FG plans to make it worse and aggravate it further

stepbar · 08-05-2007 09:11PM

patzer117 wrote:

i sincerely hope you're just winding me up now InFront. It's not an election issue because nobody else could do any different. It's why changing the title Taoiseach isn't an issue - everyone agrees on it. If you don't understand the principals of centralised government on an issue that all the parties agree on well maybe politics isn't the thing for you. It's not a FF screw up by any means as I've explained. how about you tackle the big issues and stop trying to derail this thread?

Where would you like to start? The Health service?

InFront · 08-05-2007 09:13PM

Elmo wrote:

Greendale Community School closed this week, I wonder what plans the government have for this school.

A five acre site on the DART line, close to the city centre? $$$

how about you tackle the big issues and stop trying to derail this thread?

Failure to ensure a clean water supply in a country like this, or handing over twenty million euro to what you seem to suggest are incompetent people, and then trying to shift the blame - this is a serious issue. It is negligence and lack of planning at its worst.

McSandwich · 08-05-2007 09:15PM

patzer117 wrote:

wow! it's not up to Fianna Fail, or Fine Gael and Labour, to provide the water, it's up to the county council. The government aren't responsible for things the county council does or doesn't do - you don't blame the government if the county council allows high rise apartments, and they don't get any credit if they get rejected etc.

The government provided the necessary funds. No other government could do better than that, as i said before it's a county council issue, if the funds are provided then you can't blame the government. they, in this case, did everything in their power to eliminate substandard rural water supplies etc.

Yes, it comes under the remit of the Dept. of Environment, Heritage, and Local Government. (http://www.environ.ie/en/Environment/Water/)

While I don't expect them to perform the role of a county council, pollution of a major waterway is a National issue and the minister resposible should've intervened to prevent the crypto sporidium epidemic.

O'Cuiv got involved in micro management of local issues when he renamed Dingle and that was hardly an emergency or of National importance

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