Mc Dowell and Gormley engage in some street theatre

darkman2 · 16-05-2007 04:20PM #1

I must say when the journalists went along to see the unveiling of McDowell up a pole with his poster they must have been disappointed but they must equally have been delighted to see that muppet from the Green Party show up and make a complete fool of himself. Tantrums are not going to win elections.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0516/election3.html

Anyone hear this on RTE radio just now?

RalphCifaretto · 16-05-2007 04:23PM

One thing about McDowell, he's completely open about the fact that he is there to serve the interests of "middle Ireland". He makes absolutely no effort to hide his disdain for the working class, that's just part of the PD package. He is basically a softer, more effeminate Margaret Thatcher.

BeatNikDub · 16-05-2007 04:24PM

"Criticising the alternative government coalition, Mr McDowell said: “A vote for the rainbow is a vote for a government in which left wing parties will be the driving force.”"

Ermmmm but this is a good thing?!!
Everything John Gormley said was right!

He probably should have kept his mouth shut though really, McDowell aint worth it.

darkman2 · 16-05-2007 04:48PM

As journalists looked on, Mr McDowell dismissed the Green politician claiming he had lost it.

“No no, you’re the one who’s losing it,” Mr Gormley said, as the pair came face-to-face.

“Michael I’m sick and tired of this. It’s just smear and negativity. That’s all you can do. Where are your positive ideas? It’s bye-bye to the PDs. You are history.”

However, as Mr Gormley’s phone rang, Mr McDowell retorted: “It’s your friends calling to tell you not to make a fool of yourself.”

lol!

Nightwish · 16-05-2007 05:17PM

Its a wonder how that mans (McDowell) inability to shut his mouth, hasnt gotten him in serious trouble. Maybe its the pent up frustration of having to behave himself in the presence of the judiciary for all those years.

The_Minister · 16-05-2007 05:27PM

It looked brilliant, I would have loved to have seen it. Apparently Gormley brought some supporters with him, so it looked like two gangs facing off at one point:D

dixiefly · 16-05-2007 05:34PM

McDowell actually said on the radio that he had succeeded in getting Liz O' Donnell up the pole!

Fair play to you Michael.

darkman2 · 16-05-2007 05:42PM

RTE are putting the clip on there election website here where says Video Highlights. Should be up shortly - so you can judge for yourselves:

http://www.rte.ie/news/elections2007/

RalphCifaretto · 16-05-2007 05:45PM

dixiefly wrote:

McDowell actually said on the radio that he had succeeded in getting Liz O' Donnell up the pole!

Fair play to you Michael.

Heard that, absolute quality:D

mike65 · 16-05-2007 05:45PM

I had to laugh at the medias idiocy - the Battle of Ranalagh, Rumble in Ranalgh etc, are there no issues to discusss?

Mike.

The_Minister · 16-05-2007 06:18PM

Its on the PD website.

zAbbo · 16-05-2007 06:21PM

The_Minister wrote:

Its on the PD website.

They're just linking the RTE version.

The_Minister · 16-05-2007 06:25PM

zabbo wrote:

They're just linking the RTE version.

Ah, I wasn't able to see it on the RTE website.

darkman2 · 16-05-2007 07:02PM

Actually RTE have not got the full video on their website yet. This is the full one:

http://dynamic.rte.ie/av/230-2248710.smil

marco murphy · 16-05-2007 07:15PM

“You say that we’re going to raise corporation tax. That it is a lie. Withdraw that,” shouted Mr Gormley. “I’m not taking any nonsense from you any more.”

As journalists looked on, Mr McDowell dismissed the Green politician claiming he had lost it.

“No no, you’re the one who’s losing it,” Mr Gormley said, as the pair came face-to-face.

“Michael I’m sick and tired of this. It’s just smear and negativity. That’s all you can do. Where are your positive ideas? It’s bye-bye to the PDs. You are history.”

Little children!!

Nevyn · 16-05-2007 07:30PM

And finally a bit of robust debate and a head to head and it takes it being on the street......

Fair play to Gormley to getting stuck in.

Zebra3 · 16-05-2007 07:41PM

The Guards should have arrested them for disturbing the peace.

Tbh, I thought it looked fairly crap on the news, but it saved them sending cameras elsewhere to actually hunt some news down.

daveirl · 16-05-2007 08:28PM

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Stargal · 16-05-2007 08:29PM

I'm not a big fan of John Gormley, but he was completely right. McDowell has been constantly perpetuating this myth throughout the campaign that the Greens want to increase the rate of corporation tax, despite the fact that he's been corrected on it several times. It's a cheap scare tactic to stop people from voting for the Greens. I wasn't crazy about the way Gormley was shouting to get his point across, but it was amusing to watch McDowell struggle to answer his questions.

ZorbaTehZ · 16-05-2007 08:30PM

Anyone got a linkeh for a DL?
My streaming quality is terrible atm.

Raskolnikov · 16-05-2007 08:42PM

Publicity stunt gone very wrong for the PD's.

McDowell needs to start promoting the PD's to the middle class instead of attacking the left-wing vote. It's not like he's going to win votes from any Green Party supporters.

zAbbo · 16-05-2007 08:48PM

ZorbaTehZ wrote:

Anyone got a linkeh for a DL?
My streaming quality is terrible atm.

Here ya go - http://youtube.com/watch?v=GZQk3HXWxGs

Apologies for the RTE guys messing with the stream while I was recording.

daveirl · 16-05-2007 08:52PM

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Sonderval · 16-05-2007 09:27PM

I think you underestimate the amount of people in the middle classes feeling collective guilt over the environment etc. McDowell is trying to appeal to their selfish instincts. I think it's a decent strategy.

Perhaps, but its a terrible long term strategy. The Greens are entirely correct - in order to perpetuate a healthy economy into the future, now is the time to start adopting some green proposals. It may shockingly involve some hard decisions for us all.

Imagine that!

Jackz · 16-05-2007 10:10PM

zabbo wrote:

Here ya go - http://youtube.com/watch?v=GZQk3HXWxGs

Apologies for the RTE guys messing with the stream while I was recording.

lol for all of the parts where he is making his statement.

Jonny Arson · 16-05-2007 10:12PM

John Gormely = Legend

Seeing McDowell's pathetic and condescending publicity stunt blow up in face put such a smile on my face today

The_Minister · 16-05-2007 10:15PM

Laika wrote:

McDowell has been constantly perpetuating this myth throughout the campaign that the Greens want to increase the rate of corporation tax

It's not a myth at all. They are committed to introducing new, punitive taxes on businesses, including a €200,000,000 levy per year on the banking centre, which is, in effect, raising corporation taxes.

Dirk Gently · 16-05-2007 10:27PM

zabbo wrote:

Here ya go - http://youtube.com/watch?v=GZQk3HXWxGs

Apologies for the RTE guys messing with the stream while I was recording.

why did they mess with the stream just as you were recording Liz's ass climbing the pole

Garret · 16-05-2007 10:31PM

The_Minister wrote:

It's not a myth at all. They are committed to introducing new, punitive taxes on businesses, including a €200,000,000 levy per year on the banking centre, which is, in effect, raising corporation taxes.

they seek to reintroduce a bank levy capped at €200m a year for a 5 year period. Remember that the two largest banks make approx €3bn a year.

The use of the term corporation tax makes people think they want to tax foreign MNCs who want to come here, which is not what they are trying to achieve.

brianthebard · 16-05-2007 10:35PM

That was hilarious, Gormley made a tool of himself.

Ardent · 16-05-2007 10:37PM

daveirl wrote:

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Lots of respect for Gormley after that

but I won't be voting GP unless they commit to the rainbow.

Jonny Arson · 16-05-2007 10:42PM

brianthebard wrote:

That was hilarious, Gormley made a tool of himself.

because he put it straight to McDowell's face infront of the media over the PDs published lies about the Greens' manifesto?

funktastic · 16-05-2007 10:44PM

Jonny, why do you have the socialist party in your sig when they have said they want to work outside any government, even FG/Lab/Green?

brianthebard · 16-05-2007 10:51PM

Jonny Arson wrote:

because he put it straight to McDowell's face infront of the media over the PDs published lies about the Greens' manifesto?

Because he ranted like a madman.

Dyr · 17-05-2007 08:04AM

John "nononono" gormley, still very few people can out-mouth mcdowell

Agent J · 17-05-2007 08:27AM

brianthebard wrote:

That was hilarious, Gormley made a tool of himself.

Brian, you are way off base.

The Green party successful interrupted a PD stage managed event and showed MCDowell up for being the scaremongering liar that he is.

Then FG show up to twist the knife a bit more with a poster of their own.

With that kind of team work i definatly see the greens working with FG in government

Also i would love to talk to the PD strategists on this one...

"Left wing government ? No thanks".

Does that mean the PD are admitting to being right wing at long last? And how are they going to work with one of the self proclaimed "few socalists" left in the Dail.

is_that_so · 17-05-2007 08:45AM

I have to say I love this type of thing. It's what elections are made for and this week has been excellent for spats. On topic I think it can help both sides. The PDs get some extra publicity and the Greens show they have found their courage, like the lion from the Wizard of Oz( put em up

).

daveirl · 17-05-2007 08:50AM

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guinnessdrinker · 17-05-2007 09:17AM

One thing about McDowell, he's completely open about the fact that he is there to serve the interests of "middle Ireland". He makes absolutely no effort to hide his disdain for the working class, that's just part of the PD package. He is basically a softer, more effeminate Margaret Thatcher.

Funny but true!!!

I like Gormley he's funny, in fairness McDowell can be funny too when he wants to be.

Agent J · 17-05-2007 09:23AM

daveirl wrote:

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Socalism does not fit with the PD's economic policy of letting the private sector deal with everything.

bowsie casey · 17-05-2007 09:31AM

I laughed when David Davin Power said that one Green Party insider commented that Gormley shouldn't have pulled off such a stunt wearing a gammy auld anorak.

LOL

daveirl · 17-05-2007 09:43AM

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gutta · 17-05-2007 09:46AM

dixiefly wrote:

McDowell actually said on the radio that he had succeeded in getting Liz O' Donnell up the pole!

Liz is a bit long in the tooth for that sort of thing ...

(b. July 1956)

Agent J · 17-05-2007 10:02AM

daveirl wrote:

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But Bertie ahern has claimed it remeber?

My basic point being is that if both sides are what they say they are in the current government they are surely incompatable.

McDowell is laying into the Greens/Labour and anyone else he percieves as "left wing" but He doesnt say Boo about "One of the the last socialists" in the dail.

luckat · 17-05-2007 10:06AM

The Greens left-wing!!!

(Collapse of stout party.)

daveirl · 17-05-2007 10:07AM

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The_Minister · 17-05-2007 11:32AM

gutta wrote:

Liz is a bit long in the tooth for that sort of thing ...

(b. July 1956)

Would you say no?

ateam · 17-05-2007 12:18PM

Not sure if this was mentioned but RTE's David McCullogh (sp) laughed through the entire confrontation, as seen with TV3's camera. Very funny given he acted very serious on RTE bulletins. Also, he was laughing at Gormley's act.

Mc Dowell and Gormley engage in some street theatre

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