Does a bmw 335i not have leather as std?

Cyrus · 01-08-2007 04:49PM #1

`just gawping at a nice 335 coupe outside the office and spotted cloth seats! :eek:

MarkN · 01-08-2007 05:17PM

Don't worry.. their reward will come when they come to trade in/sell on !

JHMEG · 01-08-2007 05:36PM

I believe cassette deck and manual windows are standard too.

Anan1 · 01-08-2007 05:41PM

Some people prefer cloth to leather. On cars where leather is standard, deleting it in favour of cloth never gets a refund.

Stephen · 01-08-2007 05:43PM

Anan1 wrote:

Some people prefer cloth to leather.

Freaks!

Anan1 · 01-08-2007 05:49PM

Stephen wrote:

Freaks!

I dunno. I've become quite fond of the leather in my car, which is soft enough to make me suspect it's been made from babies arses. That said, i'd take good fabric over the Diffneys leather jackets they use in the 3 series any day.

Cyrus · 01-08-2007 06:24PM

Anan1 wrote:

Some people prefer cloth to leather. On cars where leather is standard, deleting it in favour of cloth never gets a refund.

no itch for me strictly leather

MarkN · 01-08-2007 06:39PM

I'm sure some people do prefer cloth to leather but when 99.9% of other BMW coupes have leather and you are trying to sell one with cloth that's when you run into difficulties.. It also ruins the look of the car IMO.

Anan1 · 01-08-2007 08:18PM

MarkN wrote:

I'm sure some people do prefer cloth to leather but when 99.9% of other BMW coupes have leather and you are trying to sell one with cloth that's when you run into difficulties.. It also ruins the look of the car IMO.

Selling one without leather will be tougher in this country at least. That said, not everyone wants it. My mother recently bought a new E90 with €13,000 worth of optional equipment - no leather.

CJhaughey · 01-08-2007 08:28PM

I have found older people think that leather is "cold" and most o them prefer cloth, did you get a look at the owner and his/her vintage?

mike65 · 01-08-2007 08:34PM

Whats a 335 coupe retail at this weather? 55-60k?

Mike.

unkel · 01-08-2007 09:07PM

mike65 wrote:

Whats a 335 coupe retail at this weather? 55-60k?

Much worse! €66k for an SE without leather and €70k for an M Sport with leather

The range starts with the €50k 320 4-pot. This one is way more overpriced than the 335 imho!

mike65 · 01-08-2007 09:21PM

Much worse! €66k for an SE without leather

Well no wonder you don't get leather!

Seriously though could there be another market on the entire planet where SE comes with cloth as standard?.

Mike.

unkel · 01-08-2007 09:47PM

mike65 wrote:

Seriously though could there be another market on the entire planet where SE comes with cloth as standard?

Yes. Most other markets on the planet

BMWs sold over here are the same spec as BMWs sold in the UK since BMW took over distribution a few years ago. And we all know that UK cars have a high spec compared to any other EU country

Of course the VRT makes cars expensive here. A 335 coupe is only €44k in Germany

mike65 · 01-08-2007 10:09PM

Fair enough (well not really, SE means special equipment no?. Then leather should be in).

Mike.

JHMEG · 01-08-2007 10:44PM

unkel wrote:

The range starts with the €50k 320 4-pot. This one is way more overpriced than the 335 imho!

:eek: Holy fook! There are soooo many better cars one could get for that kind of money.

unkel · 01-08-2007 11:17PM

JHMEG wrote:

:eek: Holy fook! There are soooo many better cars one could get for that kind of money.

Indeed. You could nearly buy 2 Toyotas for the price of 1 BMW

JHMEG · 01-08-2007 11:29PM

unkel wrote:

Indeed. You could nearly buy 2 Toyotas for the price of 1 BMW

I think Unkel even you'd admit that the 320 is bottom-of-the-barrel stuff... does it even come with a CD-player as standard?;)

[The Lexus IS 220d starts at €43,790]

Anan1 · 02-08-2007 12:36AM

Were I to be buying a 335i, i'd be far more worried about the fact that it only has halogen headlights than about the lack of leather. Adaptive bi-xenons are cheaper than leather, and rather more central to the driving experience.

bazz26 · 02-08-2007 01:02AM

Anan1 wrote:

Were I to be buying a 335i, i'd be far more worried about the fact that it only has halogen headlights than about the lack of leather. Adaptive bi-xenons are cheaper than leather, and rather more central to the driving experience.

But for your average Joe Public leather seats would be further at the top of the "must have" list than bi-xenons.

Anan1 · 02-08-2007 01:08AM

bazz26 wrote:

But for your average Joe Public leather seats would be further at the top of the "must have" list than bi-xenons.

If this is true (and it is) then Joe Public is an idiot. 300bhp, Irish weather and sh1tty headlights is not a great combination, regardless of what the seats are covered in.

GB15 · 02-08-2007 09:29AM

Anan1 wrote:

Some people prefer cloth to leather.

Could never understand the big fuss about leather. Its too cold when the weather is cold and too hot when the weather is hot. Also when wearing shorts you have to peel yourself off of it.

Apart from that the only thing that would urge me towards it, as others have said, would be possible difficulties in reselling.

omega man · 02-08-2007 09:47AM

JHMEG wrote:

I think Unkel even you'd admit that the 320 is bottom-of-the-barrel stuff... does it even come with a CD-player as standard?;)

[The Lexus IS 220d starts at €43,790]

The 320 is bottom of the barrel stuff! You have pretty high expectations for cars then. The bog basic version may be fairly bland in comparison to other higher spec 320's or bigger engined bmw's but its still a very good motor imo.

MarkN · 02-08-2007 10:05AM

Bi xenon headlights are standard right across the BMW coupe range now.

omega man wrote:

The 320 is bottom of the barrel stuff!

320i is the first engine available in the new coupe and I'd have no desire to own one but I cannot see how a Toyota could be more appealing. They have got to be the most boring brand of car available (albeit indestructible).

Stephen · 02-08-2007 10:14AM

So no 318ci's in the E90 range?

bazz26 · 02-08-2007 10:43AM

MarkN wrote:

Bi xenon headlights are standard right across the BMW coupe range now.

I'd hope so at those prices.

MarkN wrote:

320i is the first engine available and I'd have no desire to own one but I cannot see how a Toyota could be more appealing. They have got to be the most boring brand of car available (albeit indestructible).

Since we are refering Lexus to a Toyota don't forget to refer Audi to a VW in the same context.

JHMEG · 02-08-2007 10:46AM

omega man wrote:

You have pretty high expectations for cars then.

I'd have pretty high expectations for my 50k! For that kind of money I expect a 7" touchscreen, satnav, Bluetooth, 14-speaker Mark Levinson audio, 6 in-dash DVD player (audio/video) with 5.1 digital surround, Parking Assist Monitor, Voice Command (Navigation-Audio-Climate Control-Phone) etc. As well as all the usuals like dual zone climate control, electric everything...

In addition it's understated, not very common, and the dealer service is probably the best available (it is according to all the surveys), not that you'd need to see the dealer very often.

unkel · 02-08-2007 11:02AM

JHMEG wrote:

I expect a 7" touchscreen, satnav, Bluetooth, 14-speaker Mark Levinson audio, 6 in-dash DVD player (audio/video) with 5.1 digital surround, Parking Assist Monitor, Voice Command (Navigation-Audio-Climate Control-Phone) etc. As well as all the usuals like dual zone climate control, electric everything...

Some other people just expect an ultimate driving machine

MarkN · 02-08-2007 11:10AM

JHMEG wrote:

I'd have pretty high expectations for my 50k! For that kind of money I expect a 7" touchscreen, satnav, Bluetooth, 14-speaker Mark Levinson audio, 6 in-dash DVD player (audio/video) with 5.1 digital surround, Parking Assist Monitor, Voice Command (Navigation-Audio-Climate Control-Phone) etc. As well as all the usuals like dual zone climate control, electric everything...

Well then you obviously don't want a new car. You can't have everything JHMEG!

JHMEG · 02-08-2007 11:11AM

unkel wrote:

Some other people just expect an ultimate driving machine

LOL! Very smart. You're right tho: an NSX Type-R could be had for a lot less!:D

JHMEG · 02-08-2007 11:22AM

MarkN wrote:

Well then you obviously don't want a new car. You can't have everything Omega!

Huh? No, I don't want a new car, I'm quite happy with the car I have for now?

MarkN · 02-08-2007 11:24AM

JHMEG wrote:

Huh? No, I don't want a new car, I'm quite happy with the car I have for now?

Well, we're talking about a NEW 335i, you're moaning about the spec of a NEW 335i so eh.. it's a thread about a NEW car.

Anan1 · 02-08-2007 01:02PM

MarkN wrote:

Bi xenon headlights are standard right across the BMW coupe range now.QUOTE]I stand corrected!

MarkN · 02-08-2007 02:12PM

Anan1 wrote:

I stand corrected!

I only found out myself a couple of months ago !

omega man · 02-08-2007 02:19PM

MarkN wrote:

Bi xenon headlights are standard right across the BMW coupe range now.

320i is the first engine available in the new coupe and I'd have no desire to own one but I cannot see how a Toyota could be more appealing. They have got to be the most boring brand of car available (albeit indestructible).

MarkN i was only quoting what JHMEG was saying! I think you are mixing posts and posters up.

MarkN · 02-08-2007 02:45PM

omega man wrote:

MarkN i was only quoting what JHMEG was saying! I think you are mixing posts and posters up.

Apologies, got mixed up with the quote thing.

It's just an awful lot to expect in a new car, in Ireland, for 50k.

R.O.R · 02-08-2007 03:27PM

MarkN wrote:

Bi xenon headlights are standard right across the BMW coupe range now.

Can NED78 confirm this? Still listing as an option (at least on the 320i / d SE Coupe) albeit only €175.

fletch · 02-08-2007 03:41PM

R.O.R wrote:

Can NED78 confirm this? Still listing as an option (at least on the 320i / d SE Coupe) albeit only €175.

You sure? Showing up as standard for me using the configurator.

JHMEG · 02-08-2007 05:42PM

MarkN wrote:

Well, we're talking about a NEW 335i, you're moaning about the spec of a NEW 335i so eh.. it's a thread about a NEW car.

Not for 50k we're not. We're currently moaning about the spec on a car that costs 50k. And rightly so. The Lexus wins hands down on that front.

MarkN · 02-08-2007 06:57PM

well maybe we should all try to stay a bit more on topic then..

JHMEG · 02-08-2007 07:02PM

MarkN wrote:

well maybe we should all try to stay a bit more on topic then..

Not much to discuss if we did!

jhegarty · 02-08-2007 08:31PM

LIGHTNING wrote:

I`d have to agree with the above,I would feel robbed if I paid for a 50k motor and I got the same spec as a 30k Volvo S40. Regardless of well it drives!

And thats why some people buy a Volvo and some buy a BMW.... extras are nice, but for people who buy BMW its all about the drive (to be fair for some its all about the badge).....

JHMEG · 02-08-2007 08:56PM

jhegarty wrote:

but for people who buy BMW its all about the drive (to be fair for some its all about the badge).....

Those who bought it for the badge will always claim the bought it for the drive (or something else, but not the badge)

ninty9er · 02-08-2007 08:59PM

JHMEG wrote:

Those who bought it for the badge will always claim the bought it for the drive (or something else, but not the badge)

Like my friend's mom who got a 325 E92 because it has "more room in the back than the Mercedes CLK"

JHMEG · 02-08-2007 09:41PM

ninty9er wrote:

Like my friend's mom who got a 325 E92 because it has "more room in the back than the Mercedes CLK"

LOL!

Does a bmw 335i not have leather as std?

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