Getting around the u.l. network(legally)

Patricide · 03-09-2007 02:54AM #1

Ok found out a while back that certain services such as online gaming are blocked from the u.l. network with the on campus accom. Now i know there are a few ways around the u.l. firewalls but i want to know are any of them possible without U.L. getting pissed off with you and ****ing you over?

The most obvious one is proxy tunneling or proxy bypass, theres also a way of doing it(cant remember what its called) but it involves going through an always on computer at home and that one seems a pain in the ass. Theres also circumventor sites but i personally dont have a clue how to work this with gaming.

Surely there is some way around the network that doesnt break the rules, im not trying to cause trouble here just play a couple of games of counterstrike in the evenings.

Also if anyone has a full list of u.l. on campus network rules can you please post them so i dont accidently do the wrong thing.

Brendygg · 03-09-2007 05:51PM

I lived in Kilmurry and this was a pain for me too, cause I play a nice bit of poker online. Use a program called proxifier, you have to buy it but there are cracks available. Use socscap along wit proxifier too. Nobody ever bothered me about using it.

Ginger · 03-09-2007 07:58PM

Well having the villages when it was open net access I know why the cut down on it. The villages were like an open wound. Any virus that hit and was cleaned from the base UL network always found its way back in via machines on the village networks.

Also they were open to abuse with Warez, etc etc.

So they rightfully closed them down. I did think at one point someone complained that they couldnt play quake and ITD said well if you want buy your own network gear we dont mind.

The ITD rules of conduct are here http://www.ul.ie/web/WWW/Services/Information%20Technology%20Division/ITD%20Regulations?did=17628343

Considering that all network activity is supposed to be for academic work I dont think you can really complain!

Patricide · 03-09-2007 09:33PM

yup i cant complain but i can certainly try and do somthing about it :P .

PeakOutput · 07-09-2007 05:20PM

neway to get the webcams working from msn over the network?

chatting works fine but cant get the cam working

Patricide · 07-09-2007 08:43PM

dunno but wel surly figure it out over time, as soon as they hook me up with my connection(fudgers trying to claim i didnt pay) ill be working around the clock to make sure i have all my gaming etc workin.

sebastianlieken · 08-09-2007 09:04AM

hey partricide, wat village u livin in?, im in dromroe, couple o the lads n myself play css in the evenings a few times, if you are in dromroe, or if anyonelse is in dromroe who wants to play any lan games, send me a pm n il give ya my msn

Patricide · 08-09-2007 05:51PM

cool cool, im down here in thomann, once i get a bit o practice in(not used to this keyboard/controll config yet) a might be up for a few games alright.

Y2J_MUFC · 01-10-2007 04:18PM

sebastianlieken wrote:

hey partricide, wat village u livin in?, im in dromroe, couple o the lads n myself play css in the evenings a few times, if you are in dromroe, or if anyonelse is in dromroe who wants to play any lan games, send me a pm n il give ya my msn

They can be in any village. Doesnt have to be Dromroe.

sebastianlieken · 01-10-2007 09:07PM

...AW thanks man....i REALLY didnt know that, REALLY, i REALLY appreciate that:p

so yeah, if anyone on campus is interested in lan games of any sort, (mostly css tho) gimme a pm, and ill give ya my msn.....although the lads are kinda addicted to their X-box's at the mo....

Y2J_MUFC · 02-10-2007 11:22AM

Glad i've clarified that! Because some clueless first year was probably like, "ah, dromroe? I'm not in dromroe" and we've lost ourselves a player!

No need to be so grateful though...i dont swing that way

sebastianlieken · 02-10-2007 04:13PM

.....stfu!........

Polar Ice · 02-10-2007 11:10PM

If any of you play any online games the you might want to take a look at http://irish-esports.com/ They have a few UL students, and are getting a dedicated server setup soon.

Also down by the groody roundabout there's frontier X which is an internet café/gaming café which has loads of games installed.

Heliosvector · 25-10-2007 12:49PM

with so many people interested in this would someone not set up a game club? I for one am comming to UL next year and will be bringing my xbox 360 and gaming PC (super high end) i love to brag. It would be great to have organised sessions since online seems to be very hard to configure.

I dont see why i wont be able to use my 360 there since viruses are not transmitted through xbox live, wich was why the cut down on this was made.

Ill have a few monitors too. Would it not be very academic to have game teams? Since Ireland is supposed to become The IT nation, why not have compuer game competitions between colleges, just like they have with phisical sports.

Ginger · 25-10-2007 12:54PM

Strangely enough there is one.. called Gsoc... wow wouldnt that have been funny, if there wasnt a gaming soc in a university!

Heliosvector · 25-10-2007 01:01PM

are you being funny or not... i cant tell.

Ginger · 25-10-2007 01:06PM

Ooops sorry that humour was reserved for college kids.. my bad

Yes UL does have a very active gaming scene.

Polar Ice · 25-10-2007 02:54PM

UL does have a gaming society, but to be honest it's probably not exactly what you'd be hoping for.

I'll give you a brief overview (and history lesion)

The UL games society (Gsoc) is one of the oldest societies in UL. Back in the 90's there was "a strong focus on role-playing games" (where a bunch of people act weird). A few years on they moved into card games such as Magic: The Gathering etc...

In 2002 Gsoc acquired another society called FragNET which "opening up the world of computer games." Around this time Gsoc added paintballing to their list of activities which is their main scheme for recruiting new members.

Gsoc this kinda 3 groups in 1: There's the group that's into role-playing games, the paintballing stuff (which everyone is interested in) and the console and pc gaming stuff.

Personally I don't have any interest in the role playing stuff and card games, but at the moment that's the way the society is moving. In the last year or 2 they scraped their gaming (console&pc) officer and made their "RPG Officer, Minister for Critical Failures" a more centralised position. Don't get me wrong, gsoc does still go frontier X (a local LAN gaming place) and do stuff like that, it's just their kinda moving in the opposite direction to what you're probably interested in Heliosvector.

The last time I remember gsoc running anything big in terms of pc gaming was an event 2 years ago called SkyLan, but it was more organised by skynet - the computer society, than the gsoc.

At the moment I'd say that if you're interested in online pc gaming then your best bet is to just join an online gaming community - as I kindly advertised before the only gaming community with a large number of UL students is http://irish-esports.com/

I will just mention that the above has been written from the point of view of a kinda unactive gsoc member in 1st year.

If you want to find out more about gsoc their website is http://www.skynet.ie/~ulgsoc/

Heliosvector · 25-10-2007 03:31PM

what!! no Halo3!!! i guess i will have to change some things myself when i come next year lol!

Polar Ice · 25-10-2007 04:57PM

On console day the gsoc does play Halo 3, but it's not a big aspect of the society.

Don't worry - you're not the only one who wants to change things

On the other hand, Irish E-Sports has about 5 people in the UL area playing halo 3, with other members in other parts of Ireland playing too.

Do you see where I'm going with this

Ginger · 25-10-2007 05:00PM

Being honest, if you are intending to go to UL next year then you should be studying rather than playing games...

Have you submitted your application form for Dromroe etc etc

Heliosvector · 25-10-2007 06:28PM

man im not stupid. of course im going to do my studies. I hate it when people look down at playing games. its just a think i like to do at night when there is nothing going on. I mean im not going to come to UL to play games. I dont see you saying that to the athletes that come to UL, who actually do come for that reason apart from others.

During my time at UL i will get nothing but the best in academic effort, but playing some bit will be nice. After all i will be doing computer science or game developement. Just like the athletes usually are studying fitness science or PE ect...

I come here to ask little nit picky questions. Games are not my life, but i sure am amazing at it. It would kine of be a waste to leave my 2.5k PC and system home for 4yrs after just getting them.

Ginger · 25-10-2007 06:44PM

Take a chill pill.. christ! If all you can think about is playing games at college, then freshers week is gonna be one hell of an eye opener for you

FYI.. i did my degree in Comp Systems.

PeakOutput · 25-10-2007 06:53PM

Heliosvector wrote: »

but i sure am amazing at it.

haha famous last words

Heliosvector · 25-10-2007 07:09PM

sorry about that i guess i whent overboard. Im just so annoyed with ULs contact emails. They either dont work, or dont reply, at all! Rose Merrigans link for her email isnt even working. I even had to call the resception a few minutes ago to get it.

Ginger · 25-10-2007 08:40PM

THe email on the web site is correct

http://www.ul.ie/campuslife/accommodationcontact.htm

Heliosvector · 25-10-2007 09:00PM

yah yeah, but how do they play? can you lan across villages (places within the ul network? or do you have to come together.

JoseJones · 25-10-2007 09:40PM

tbh, if you want to play games online or use torrents etc. don't stay on campus...it's too much hassle than it's worth to find an alternative...incidentally, if anyone knows how to get torrents working on campus, feel free to pm me

...

Heliosvector · 25-10-2007 09:55PM

i suppose i could do that, but i want to be in campus. Im not going to move away just for games

Patricide · 25-10-2007 10:24PM

JoseJones wrote: »

tbh, if you want to play games online or use torrents etc. don't stay on campus...it's too much hassle than it's worth to find an alternative...incidentally, if anyone knows how to get torrents working on campus, feel free to pm me ...

Me too.

Y2J_MUFC · 25-10-2007 10:47PM

Yeah, you can play LAN games no problem. Theres a group of about 10 of us that play regularly! Most of us are fourth years though...

If you doing Comp Sys, may God have mercy on your soul.

KerranJast · 26-10-2007 09:50AM

Polar Ice wrote: »

Gsoc this kinda 3 groups in 1: There's the group that's into role-playing games, the paintballing stuff (which everyone is interested in) and the console and pc gaming stuff.

Personally I don't have any interest in the role playing stuff and card games, but at the moment that's the way the society is moving. In the last year or 2 they scraped their gaming (console&pc) officer and made their "RPG Officer, Minister for Critical Failures" a more centralised position.

That's actually not correct. The Paintball Officer, the RPG Officer and the LAN/Console Officer all have the exact same level of responsibility.

Polar Ice wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, gsoc does still go frontier X (a local LAN gaming place) and do stuff like that, it's just their kinda moving in the opposite direction to what you're probably interested in Heliosvector.

A LAN is being planned for November in the Students Union. Several were ran last Semester in the SU.

Polar Ice wrote: »

The last time I remember gsoc running anything big in terms of pc gaming was an event 2 years ago called SkyLan, but it was more organised by skynet - the computer society, than the gsoc.

There doesn't seem to be the demand for a big LAN in Limerick. People from beyond Limerick (and possibly Galway) aren't interested in making the journey which is why MidLANs in Athlone has become so big. It's central.

You should keeps tabs at the Gsoc site anyway to see when the next event is on (Gsoc.net).

Heliosvector · 26-10-2007 12:07PM

Y2J_MUFC wrote: »

Yeah, you can play LAN games no problem. Theres a group of about 10 of us that play regularly! Most of us are fourth years though...

If you doing Comp Sys, may God have mercy on your soul.

Why do you say god have mercy? i was actually planning to do so. Iether that course or the game developement one. I know comp systems is more sought after by employers, but game one seems a bit more enjoyable. Or im going to do the networking one aplied computing.

Ginger · 26-10-2007 12:16PM

Do you like maths.. the maths in first year are to be polite.. tricky.

Overall the course can be considered quite tough. When i started, 170 people started, 90 or so graduated. A lot of people finished in the first year, some in 2nd year as they stayed on in co-op

Depends on what you are into. People say different things. I like it, found some bits hella tricky, other bits a breeze.

Polar Ice · 26-10-2007 01:59PM

KerranJast wrote: »

That's actually not correct. The Paintball Officer, the RPG Officer and the LAN/Console Officer all have the exact same level of responsibility.

The LAN/Console officer isn't listed on the website & in fairness gsoc is moving away from LAN/console stuff anyway.

KerranJast wrote: »

A LAN is being planned for November in the Students Union.

There are no details available for that yet. I've asked for details to be posted but as of yet all that's been said is: First I want to know if people are able to come to the event before I do more planning

KerranJast wrote: »

There doesn't seem to be the demand for a big LAN in Limerick.

That's cause gsoc doesn't look outside its own doors. I ran a 25 person thing 2 years ago in the kilmurry and when ye found out about it I remember being contacted so that larger LANs could be organised.

KerranJast wrote: »

You should keeps tabs at the Gsoc site anyway to see when the next event is

I do! It's just there are no details for the next event.

Heliosvector · 26-10-2007 03:21PM

I dont mind maths it seems. See i am one of those people that can kind of do ok or pass in school without studying. If you asked me if i liked maths last year i would say i Hated it with a passion. This year though i am actuall getting into it, because i have to and studying. Ever since i have started to go over stuff, my lowest test result has been 80% where as i used to be getting just passes (OL). I also think im a bit addicted to game (just a bit) so since im going to leave my consoles at home (seems i dont have a choice in relation to live play) wich will leave me with LOADS of free time to get down to the books (or this case the computer screen)

I like maths when i know what to do but i hate it when im stuck without a clue. im sure thats the same with everyone.

Who knows i may end up doing the networking course as i love the hardware aspect too. I even enjoy taking my pc apart when i clean it or add in new stuff like cards and lights.

Ginger · 26-10-2007 03:57PM

Most computer courses have a fair amount of maths. Its part of it, also you get introduced to binary, ternary, octal & hex number systems

The graphics part is heavy on vectors and matrices transformations. You also get a fairly healthy dose of statistical maths (tho all this may have changed).

Are you doing Ordinary Level or Higher Level maths?

Ginger · 26-10-2007 04:05PM

Heliosvector wrote: »

wich will leave me with LOADS of free time to get down to the books (or this case the computer screen)

Ha ha ha .. there are plenty of more worth while distractions in college. Just remember the three S's of college life.. Social , Study & Sleep. You can only every do 2 in any decent quantity.

When you are socialising your sleep is also high and as such your study is low. When you are studying, you need sleep so you dont get to socialise. And I have left to meet anyone who can do socialise and study!

For the first few weeks, there will be very little to study. But what you learn in those first few weeks is fairly valuable for the rest of your college life. Like the location of the bar, where is the best place to go out, what is the latest time you can get out of bed to make your 9am lecture and the whole waking up and asking the person beside you their name (invest in post-it notes!)

College is the experience and art of learning to balance work and social as to come out with the degree you want.

Heliosvector · 26-10-2007 05:43PM

i do OL maths. I used to do HL though.
oh and as for sleep i dont need it.

Polar Ice · 26-10-2007 10:21PM

Heliosvector wrote: »

i do OL maths. I used to do HL though.
oh and as for sleep i dont need it.

Oh, you will need sleep regardless. At times you might find yourself not doing yet for some strange reason you can be very tired.

KerranJast · 26-10-2007 10:32PM

Polar Ice wrote: »

The LAN/Console officer isn't listed on the website & in fairness gsoc is moving away from LAN/console stuff anyway.

We have Console Days every Wednesday in SU Room 3 from 11 to 6. Feel free to drop by anyone. LAN trips to FrontierX are nearly every Wednedsay evening depending on demand. A LAN was planned for a few weeks ago. No one would commit to going hence why another date has been proposed.

Polar Ice wrote: »

That's cause gsoc doesn't look outside its own doors. I ran a 25 person thing 2 years ago in the kilmurry and when ye found out about it I remember being contacted so that larger LANs could be organised.

(a) GSoc is a society based out of the University so is understandably geared towards UL students and alumni and (b) if I'm correct you were in secondary school (Castletroy College?) at the time which is why you didn't appear on our radar.

Polar Ice wrote: »

I do! It's just there are no details for the next event.

Sorry I meant the OP not you.

Heliosvector · 26-10-2007 10:49PM

Polar Ice wrote: »

Oh, you will need sleep regardless. At times you might find yourself not doing yet for some strange reason you can be very tired.

No i actually mean it. I cant reaaly sleep, i just kind of rest with my brain on, so i can read etc.. then. I just have very low stemina is all. Its a condition i have had ever since i was little.

Heliosvector · 26-10-2007 11:22PM

just kidding, i wish. sleeping is such a waste of time. although i can do with short sleeps.

Silenceisbliss · 26-10-2007 11:47PM

meh, sleeping is over-rated

im the same as you when it comes to not studyin, the day before an exam is jus fine, ul find that college exams are quite predictable, for instance; had a math-midterm today, did 2 past papers yesterday, got 80%...

but yeah, lan games work perfectly accross the village network, jus these 4th years like "y2j_mufc" are gettin caught up with their FYP's and their x-boxs, so its been quite.

Ginger · 27-10-2007 12:52AM

Now this may not be the same for everyone... but I had an A1 in HL maths and found the maths difficult. I had to learn the greek alphabet for one subject in 1 semester.

As for the sleep issue.. you will need it... believe me.. You sleep but trying to study when you have been out socialising till 5am with a 9am lecture you will fine yourself asleep (especially when its that business one in the concert hall)

We took 450 1st years on a class party to galway. I went at the last min as crew and didnt get home till 6am. I sat in that lecture in the back sleeping for 2 hours.. You just cant do it, listen to someone trying to teach you and fight the will of sleep at the same time.

Polar Ice · 27-10-2007 05:29PM

KerranJast wrote:

There doesn't seem to be the demand for a big LAN in Limerick.

Polar Ice wrote:

That's cause gsoc doesn't look outside its own doors. I ran a 25 person thing 2 years ago in the kilmurry and when ye found out about it I remember being contacted so that larger LANs could be organised.

KerranJast wrote:

(a) GSoc is a society based out of the University so is understandably geared towards UL students and alumni and (b) if I'm correct you were in secondary school (Castletroy College?) at the time which is why you didn't appear on our radar.

First you were talking about Limerick in general, now Limerick seems to mean UL. You do realise that a large proportion of the population of Limerick lives outside your "radar". I remember that when Skynet ran their event 2 years ago they looked outside their own doors and got a big turnout (30-40+ people)

kaimera · 27-10-2007 06:16PM

Going off topic guys.

Take it to PM or start a new thread about LAN.gaming

Getting around the u.l. network(legally)

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