Interest in Steve Morris for Wexford

burtyburr · 28-02-2008 12:24AM #1

Hello all,
There is a small group in wexford training twice a week in MMA.We are interested in inviting Steve Morris over for a weekend seminar.
There is only about 11 of us at the momment so to be realistic about it we need a total of no more than 27 people.If anyone might be interested please post a reply so we can get a better gauge of numbers.As for time and cost we thinking mid-summer and about 30-40 euro.
Anyone who doesnt know who steve morris go here http://www.morrisnoholdsbarred.co.uk/
The club in wexford is run by Mark Porter.(who doesnt believe in computers hence it me doing the post)
cheers

judomick · 28-02-2008 10:55AM

he seems to be a combatives/RBSD kinda guy, i cannot comment really on the standup in the videos but, the ground work warmup, was pretty bad. Also not one of his 64 videos on youtube had anytype of groundwork training in it, so id be a little sceptical on his grappling skills, especially after seeing the ground warm up.

There are much better options for seminars in ireland tbh

burtyburr · 28-02-2008 11:51AM

Thats cool judomick.I wouldnt judge him by his videos myself, just as i wouldnt judge another MMA class by what I saw walking by a window.This class is open to anyone who interested in picking up a few skills from a man who has been there and has been a fighter for a very long time.He is 64 in most of them videos after all.
Like I said at the start.This post is to gauge the numbers of who might be interested in the wexford area.
Anyone interested in Steve Morris can see his site as linked above or see some of his classes on you-tube as linked below.
http://www.youtube.com/user/stevemorrisnhb

celt2005 · 28-02-2008 11:59AM

I don,t know about MMA, but Steve Morris was a legend in the Karate scene in the 70s / 80s, and would be well worth a look for all well rounded MAs.

Will be looking to get to this.

burtyburr · 01-03-2008 08:16PM

cheers celt, will keep you posted. It worth noting that Morris completely turned his back on Karate to the extent that he is very anti-tradirional karate.Just thought I'd mention it.

Scramble · 01-03-2008 11:48PM

I met an english (I think) guy at the last Matt Thornton seminar who said he did 'Morris Method MMA' or something like that ... Were they from your group?

burtyburr · 02-03-2008 11:11AM

I could be wrong but I think the only person that really teaches the Morris Method is Steve Morris.But I am open to corrections.The club in Wexford is run by Mark Porter.He spent a time training with Morris but he wouldnt claim to be teaching the Morris Method.
The club is based in Wexford town.Training in St Iberius Nat school on tuesadays and thursdays.The class is small and is intended to be that way to keep things interesting!

Baggio... · 02-03-2008 11:59AM

judomick wrote: »

he seems to be a combatives

He's not a Combatives guy to the best of my knowledge.

R.

judomick · 02-03-2008 12:14PM

Baggio... wrote: »

He's not a Combatives guy to the best of my knowledge.

R.

i tend to lump together combatives rbsd, etc, into the same boat i know you would not agree, he's probably not, just has a few videos on youtube giving talks on emergency mindset etc, which i would also throw into the same basket, he has a few comment from Mick Coup on his site so that influenced my opinion too

Baggio... · 02-03-2008 02:56PM

judomick wrote: »

i tend to lump together combatives rbsd, etc, into the same boat i know you would not agree

that's me for ya'.

I just see RBSD and Combatives as two completely separate entities. Sorry that's just me being picky.

I don't know much about Steve Morris to be honest - only what I've seen on his site.

Might be good for the OP to give everyone on a bit more specific info' - might generate some more interest in the seminar.

Cheers,

R.

burtyburr · 02-03-2008 09:09PM

RBSD ? Oh right...just googled it.
http://www.rbsd.com/
That'd be the difference between street fighting and indoor fighting then:)
I will have a chat with Mark Porter tomorrow and get a full breakdown on what he intends to happen and how the seminar will be broken down.
While I understand that having a lot of info is important I dont really want to get bogged down with an indepth discussion on what particular camp of which particular catagory of mma Steve Morris is in.
My personel interest in Steve Morris is that he spent a lot of time in traditional Karate before getting a bit dissillusioned in the early 80's and started exploring a more hands on, street based approach.
Anyone who has been around for as long as he has and still has a burning desire to achieve perfection is worth at least listening to.
At the end of the day you are going to take what you want from this.
Here is a link to an overview on the Morris Method
http://www.morrisnoholdsbarred.co.uk/07mmoverview.htm
And more info on his approach to training
http://www.morrisnoholdsbarred.co.uk/07mmtrainingtips.htm

Baggio... · 02-03-2008 10:05PM

burtyburr wrote: »

started exploring a more hands on, street based approach. Anyone who has been around for as long as he has and still has a burning desire to achieve perfection is worth at least listening to.

Sounds good!

I had a look at those links - thanks for the info'. Sounds like it could be an interesting seminar. I've also heard some good reports about his material.

Cheers,

R.

burtyburr · 02-03-2008 10:05PM

Here is a link to a post on a martial arts discussion forum similiar to here as regards Steve Morris
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=15913416

Anyone interested in this can you contact us on the mail below.

wexmma@gmail.com

burtyburr · 02-03-2008 10:52PM

and some links to discussions of people who have gone to Steve Morris seminars
http://karatethejapaneseway.com/karate_underground/viewtopic.php?p=155327&sid=1fec828146f4181f7aecdde865674675
http://www.gojuforums.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=2830&reply_id=20070913185424
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/systemauk/vpost?id=1832466&trail=
cheers

celt2005 · 03-03-2008 05:55PM

burtyburr wrote: »

It worth noting that Morris completely turned his back on Karate to the extent that he is very anti-tradirional karate.Just thought I'd mention it.

Burty,

Would,nt matter if Morris was doing flower arranging these days, it would be worth going to, there are some great seminars planned this year , but this has to top them all.

burtyburr · 03-03-2008 07:15PM

cheers celt.We should have a definate idea on time and dates towards the end of the week.We have a temp site set up here(please excuse the minging picture of the dude in the gi on top banner!)
http://www.freewebs.com/burtyburr/index.htm
but we will be updateing any info we have on this thread first.
cheers.
Again those interested should mail to
wexmma(at)gmail(dot)com

I am soo looking forward to this.

burtyburr · 05-03-2008 08:26PM

Anyhow we can confirm that we will have Steve Morris doing a seminar on either 7th or 14th june, with the 7th being the favoured.
This is a huge occasion for us and all are welcome.As stated elsewhere we will be keeping the numbers small so please let us know of your interest as soon as possible by mailing us at wexmma@gmail.com.or just visit our new site at www.wexmma.com
The seminar will probibly be an intense 4 hour one but there is a possibility it could be an all day'er depending on Steve Morris's timetable.There is a possibility of getting another no holds barred legend over on the same day but we will keep you posted if we know more.

burtyburr · 06-03-2008 07:59PM

Ok we been busy.
Our new site is here. www.wexmma.com .Sorry for the wait.Never used Html before.
We can CONFIRM that Steve Morris will be teaching a full day course on 7th of June In Wexford:eek:
All the info aas we get it will be posted here http://www.wexmma.com/seminars.htm
We need to have numbers confirmed as soon as possible.
cheers

Mick Coup · 07-03-2008 09:13AM

Thought I'd add my bit here since I got a mention in an earlier post!

Look past the MMA/combatives/RBSD tags for a moment, though I'd like to expand upon them later - Steve is a phenomenal trainer who will undoubtedly add some unique perspectives to whatever delivery system you employ.

I recommend Steve without hesitation to anyone serious about fighting, whether sporting, street or otherwise, and he is able to accommodate all skill levels simultaneously, this guy can make things as simple or as deep as the individual requires or desires.

Regarding the term 'combatives' I must say that it's the most over-used 'buzz' word of the day - unfortunately for me and a few others that grasp its real usage, it seems immediately linked to the wannabee secret agents and would-be commandos that beat the snot out of BOB whilst wearing cargo pants and collect 'tactical' folding knives and flashlights! Spare me!

These same 'dangerous' types usually separate their beloved 'combatives' from every other endeavor, highly zealously, and delude themselves that their handful of dirty tricks will prevail against a fully-rounded delivery system 'in the street' but this can obviously never be proven!

Steve teaches a full delivery system, that can be used for either 'sportive' or 'combative' purposes, and uses the same training models as found in MMA practices - as do I incidentally.

If you are experienced you'll love the 'polish' that Steve can apply to your game, if you're a beginner it'll be a great place to start.

Mick

burtyburr · 07-03-2008 10:32AM

Mick Coup wrote: »

Look past the MMA/combatives/RBSD tags for a moment, though I'd like to expand upon them later - Steve is a phenomenal trainer who will undoubtedly add some unique perspectives to whatever delivery system you employ.

I think looking past the tags and focusing on the man is the key here.Steve Morris has been doing what he does for a very long time and allways with a degree of perfection and obsessiveness that few can claim to possess.

Mick Coup wrote: »

..he is able to accommodate all skill levels simultaneously, this guy can make things as simple or as deep as the individual requires or desires.

Anyone who has attended one of Steve Morris's course's will happily vouch for this. Not only does he have a vast pool of knowledge but an uncanny ability to express himself to people of all backgrounds.

Mick Coup wrote: »

If you are experienced you'll love the 'polish' that Steve can apply to your game, if you're a beginner it'll be a great place to start.

What more can be said!

For up to date info such as cost, booking and venue please go here
www.wexmma.com/seminars.htm

burtyburr · 10-03-2008 04:08PM

An interesting link for people interested in Steve Morris on 7th.It from a thread on people who have trained with him
http://selfprotection.lightbb.com/q-a-with-steve-morris-f16/training-with-steve-morris-t4325.htm

burtyburr · 28-03-2008 11:09PM

Sorry for lack of info but the bar trade gets interesting around the paddyweekend and easter bank holiday weekends.
Anyhoo....the latest info for the legendary ma'ist and keynote speaker at Seni'08 Steve Morris, who will be in wexford on June 7th is here...
http://wexmma.com/seminars.htm

Anyone interested go there or pm me. There is only a few places left so we looking for as broad a range of people as possble.

Musashi · 29-03-2008 01:17AM

As soon as I can get funds on my credit card I'm booking this one! I may be lost, but I can always say I've trained with Steve Morris

I hope it's not full already? I've read some of Steves' writings on his site and my head hurt! The guy goes into a level of detail that is unreal, but can zoom back out to just pogging the head off your opponnent as well. Mick Coup originally mentioned him to me as worth getting to if the chance came up, and Mick doesn't suffer fools. Even without Micks thumbs up, Steves writing and thinking stands out, and makes all kinds of sense to me. And Wexford isn't that far from me after all

Mick Coup is also back over this year, since he hasn't mentioned it himself.

Look up Kapap.ie for details if that's the kind of thing your in to, David Lewis stages brilliant seminars and I'm heading to that one also.

See you soon Mick!

It is a pity that the Steve Morris seminar is clashing with the Kettlebell one http://www.kapap.ie/events.htm being held with a World Champ. Maybe I can get Mick to show me some stuff when he's over, I bought a few after hearing him rate them highly for fight training.
Mick Keogh of Irish Lifting supplied mine, but I believe 3Kings here on boards can get them as well. Very happy with mine even if the 28kg is a monster and the 32kg that's inbound should be of Cloverfield dimensions!

burtyburr · 02-04-2008 09:41PM

Cheers. The key is under the mat if ya headen down.:) Steve's site is packed to the brim with all kinds of bang on advice and crazy observations. Cant wait to see him in the flesh.
That Mick Coup gig is looking good.I think Mark Porter is heading down for that one. If I can get off the fags by July I defo be there.
Jasus....If one more person says anything more about kettlebells then I swear I gonna...go get one I soppouse.:D
Anyone thinking of booking the Steve morris course by bank transfer should check out the details on the seminars page at www.wexmma.com

Musashi · 03-04-2008 09:35PM

Just need to check dates and get permission off the Missus!

I'll be there if at all possible, or even only mildly unfeasible! I'll bring some bells in the car, should have the 32kg by then

You and the lads can have a go of them if ye like. Very odd things, more a cardio workout compared to standard weights, I can see why Crossfit likes them! After using them I was trying to explain how they work to a mate in the gym. Doing an overhead snatch with a 20kg Dumbbell is a completely different animal to the KB, the momentum and perceived weight is way higher with the KB. I use them when I can't get to the gym or want a quick blast of exertion. They are an adjunct to, rather than a replacement for, usual weight training.

I'd get to the Mick Coup seminar if you could at all, don't worry about the smoking or fitness, you go at your own pace or thereabouts

Good stuff, very straight forward and empirical if you like. There's no mystery and Mick can give a reason for everything he teachs. You may disagree with him, but he does have a very solid reasoning behind what he teachs. The Mayhem drills are fun, and even though this is the third "level" of this course, the basics are always the basics, just with more drills and tips on how to do them. Mick likes to keep it simple and use a limited number of strikes to get the job done.

I see from the site ye are getting John Kav. down. Good move! I've done a seminar with him in Waterford, and even though I know feck all about ground he taught a good, busy class and I learnt a lot. Got to roll with some Greco guys and some Jitz guys and girl! John didn't make a feck of me, though he definitely could have! He just showed what could be done and how he structures his class training. Well worth it and I'd train with him again if he comes down, why not utilise the best trainers for best effect?

I guess I'll meet you in Wexford if not in Cork bhoy! If I haven't met you already? I was down your way with Paul O'Leary for a Pressure Point Seminar with some Ju-Jitsu lads a while back? Anyways, keep a seat for me and I'll find out this weekend if I can get there. Cheers sham!

davidlewis · 04-04-2008 04:30PM

I have been on loads of seminars where I have seen the fantastical, and few that have shown the functional. From what I have seen on the streets today, give me the functional material any day..

I have never trained with Steve, but I think any mans greatest testament is longevity, and lads, he is still here!! His material is as relevant now as it was 20 years ago, if not more so.

Regardless of the tag "MMA" "Combatives" "RBSD" etc. etc. we are all trying to get to the same destination - Self Preservation, we may take different roads, but usually the "shortcuts" or the "fantastical" ways, only get you lost.

I am sure I speak for anyone who has been in a "fight", your main objective is survival, and the quickest way of doing that is to "knock the other guy out", this method has worked in confrontations since year dot.

As Steve Morris says "The fight is my teacher"

Enough said...

As Mick Coup says "Anything is possible but not everything is probable, and I only deal with what is."

Again, enough said...

Anyone who can get to the seminar lads, GO, Its time for the MA scene to finally recognise the genuine articles and recognise the Jokers..

Functional or Fantastical??? What works, be honest!

Steve Morris in June, Mick Coup In July!

Slainte,

David.

Baggio... · 05-04-2008 10:32AM

Lee rates Steve Morris very highly.

As Dave was just saying, sounds like a seminar that would be good for everyone, regardless of your training background.

Definitely check it out if you get a chance.

Cheers,

R.

davidlewis · 07-04-2008 08:34AM

So you'll be there?? Excellent.

It'll be a good chance for you to train with Steve, and see the material for yourself..

David.

burtyburr · 09-04-2008 11:01PM

davidlewis wrote: »

So you'll be there?? Excellent.

It'll be a good chance for you to train with Steve, and see the material for yourself..

David.

The fact that Steve Morris is giving a seminar at Seni 08 should make the one we are having in June that bit more special.
Mick Coup is also giving a seminar at Seni too. All the relevant info here
http://www.senishow.com/Seminars_Survival.htm

We have just added some maps to www.wexmma.com for those of you a bit sat-nav challenged:p

burtyburr · 18-05-2008 08:58PM

For those attending the Steve Morris course on june 7th , here is a brief description of what he tried to achieve at his recent SENI 08 seminar and it gives an idea of what to expect on june 7th.

"I always say that I want to give people the sense that they’ve jumped out of a plane. I want them to go away exhilarated. But to do that, I have to take you to a physical and psychological point that in some cases, you’ve never been to before. I want to put you out there on an edge, and rather than me pushing you out of the plane, I want you to jump. The parachute is the safety factor that I’ve built into the structure of the training. I’ve put a lot of thought into the drills. Some of them, the ones I call the ‘**** it’ drills, appear to be completely chaotic. But there’s a method to the madness, and the drills are designed to challenge you without killing you.

When we do the ‘**** it’ drills, it’s not about going crazy for the sake of it. There’s a reason. Whatever technical skills or specialized moves that you might know, they mean nothing unless you’ve been to this place of violence and chaos. A lot of your moves ain’t going to work on a guy from hell. The only way you find out how to deal with a guy from hell is to go there. Then, whatever comes out of that chaos, is a valid move."

The full post as well as his impression of the entire SENI 08 event is at this link
http://stevemorris.livejournal.com/816.html

We managed to get more mats for the club at the last minute so we have extra room. There are about 5 places left so if you interested then contact us through the site at
www.wexmma.com or mail us at club(at)wexmma(dot)com

burtyburr · 06-06-2008 01:40PM

Just a quick "good luck" to all those attending the Steve Morris seminar on saturday. Looking forward to having you all down here for what should prove to be a bit of an eye opener.
Unfortunatly the Misssus decides to end up in hospital this week so I cant attend to the full class. Cheers babe!!
On the up side this means There is a spare space on the course so if ya interested check out info on our site and then ring me direct on 087-6762732

Musashi · 06-06-2008 06:35PM

My wife couldn't get off work on the Saturday, so I'm minding the chiselers

Have a good one lads, hopefully I'll catch Steve next time he's over?

At least I've the Mick Coup seminar to look forward to, and she's had plenty of warning to be off for that one!

burtyburr · 09-06-2008 11:11AM

Tell me about it.! The course went very well. It killed me to have to sit it out. Cheers to all who travelled for it. We going to try to have Steve back over in October and Dermot McGrath is keen to have him over sometime in the summer for his club in Limerick.
Hopefully this could be the start of a regular course for Steve over here.
There are too many people we would like to thank so we will be doing that as well as posting pictures of the course on our site as soon as we can.
We hope to have a full review up there as well as a bit of a mention on Irish Fighter if we get the chance.

zenboy · 13-06-2008 09:33AM

I was at the morris seminar last Saturday in wexford and Id recommend him to anyone especially for stand up fighting.Was more of a principles and trainining methods seminar than teaching techniques,a guiding hand towards finding solutions of your own and very well explained.Steve was very approachable and safety concious throughout so nobody will be coming home in bits apart from exhaustion that is.

Interest in Steve Morris for Wexford

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