anyone interested in a Vietnam themed event?

I'm in. Loving it.

20 round style M16 mag restrictions or do you not want to get that anal about the details?*


*Yes, one of the reasons I asked was so I could post the word "anal"

Have the m14 just need the cammo!

Hm, looks like i'll have to make it myself!

Sounds good im deffinitly in...................


We should try a few ambush games like the americans doing a patrol and the vc ambush them,sounds like a savage idea to me...........

Or you could try SAC in Longford. They already run some games like that and their woodland has some tight trails that are perfect for ambushes!

Ye i like the idea of only 2 comms per team,it could mean that the americans could be split into 2 teams and when 1 team gets ambushed they could call in backup from squad 2......

the walled garden at s.a.c. Longford would be perfect for the jungle warfar part of this iv always said it reminds me of the old movies haha.plus sac actually has an invisable inplacment that i made called the veitnam inplacment haha i would love this haha im in.

sac would be perfect for this event

COME ONE!

I see this as being a slightly one sided battle.....
How many people have VC replica guns?
I'd rather be VC than marine, maybe we just say, i found my m14 then:D

I was gonna pm that link to you actually! I read about it a few weeks ago somewhere. It's been in development for a while now, I believe it's due out by the years end.

vtec wrote: »

Id be up for this!, will look into getting the tiger stripe, i have current vietnam issue though?
I have an M1911, will get an M16 VN is needed and have one of them paddy field hats too.,

m16a1 was also used, the m1a"0" I suppose would be the vn model, so you've a choice

Hell, I might bring along an ak for this...

Cool idea this, i likey

Sod'o swords wrote: »

I see this as being a slightly one sided battle.....
How many people have VC replica guns?
I'd rather be VC than marine, maybe we just say, i found my m14 then:D

I'm sure the VC would be using captured weaps as well

I'm in for this. Have the M15A1 NV, M1911A with leather shoulder holster and M14 (needs repairing). Have OD's and Tigerstripe with an M1 Helmet (Mitchell Leaf cover on the way!).

Try and make it for early August as I am tied up for most of the summer till then !!

august of '66 the battle of Long Tan

Gatling wrote: »

august of '66 the battle of Long Tan

Wasn't that the Aussies ?

gandalf wrote: »

Wasn't that the Aussies ?

That'd fit me and my L1A1 right in.

Just have to start working on the accent now.

This system is intended to re-create the feeling and variety of the Vietnam conflict within the constraints of Irish law, terrain and weather. This is a role-playing experience as much as it is a gaming experience and should be treated as such.

Standard Ammunition Rules

Since we are limited to 1joule we can simulate the variance in ammunition types thusly.

5.56mm Guns to be loaded solely with .20g BB’s.

7.72mm Guns to be loaded solely with .25g BB’s

.45cal, 9mm Pistols etc and SMG’s loaded solely with .3g BB’s

Sniper Rifles may use any weight BB from .12g to a maximum of .43g

12guage Shotguns to be loaded solely with .25g BB’s

20guage Shotguns to be loaded solely with .20g BB’s

40mm grenades, claymores, handgrenades and landmines should be filled solely with .12g or .20g BB’s

*Absolutely no way to enforce this without interfering spot checks – rely on the honour system and eject anyone who can be proven to be breaking the rules.


Squad formation rules

*This is just a rough idea and will probably be amended heavily by folks who know more about the period than I do

US Infantry, Marine Corps, South Vietnamese Army and Coalition Forces
Standard infantry squads can comprise up to 15 men including a commanding officer
Must include 1 of each of the following
Medic (limit 2)
Commanding Officer (limit 1)
Grenadier (limit 2)
Radio Operator (limit 1)
May include up to 2 support gunners but this is not mandatory.
Standard infantry units may not have snipers.

US Army Green Berets
Green Beret units may comprise from 3 to 10 operators including a commanding officer
Must include 1 of each of the following
Radio Operator (limit 1)
Commanding Officer (limit 1)
Medic (limit 1)
May include any of the following
Grenadier (limit 2)
Support Gunner (limit 2)
Sniper (limit 2)

US Navy SEALS
Navy SEALS may comprise from 3 to 7 operators
Must include 1 of each of the following
Commanding officer (limit 1)
Medic (limit 2)
May include any of the following
Grenadier (limit 2)
Support Gunner (limit 2)
Sniper (limit 2)

CIA Operative
No standard rules for squads etc, primarily NPC’s (lots of folks are happy to volunteer for a little acting) - must wear loud hawaiian shirts & khaki's.

NVA (you may want to get advice from someone who knows more about them ... fiach for example)
Squads of up to 25 men including commanding officer
May include any of the following
RPG/Grenadiers (limit 4)
Commanding Officer (limit 1)
Support Gunners (limit 4)
Medic (limit 2)
Radio operator (limit 2)

Viet Cong
Squads of up to 12 men including commanding officer
May include any of the following
Commanding officer (limit 1)
Radio operator (limit 1)
RPG/Grenadier (limit 2)
Support Gunner (limit 2)
Medic (limit 1)


Rules for medics

Players
- When hit a player must lay or sit down on the ground and may not operate his equipment at all.
- Players are permitted to call for a medic for ten minutes, after which time they are deemed to have “bled out” and will be considered DOA when arriving at the MASH unit.
- A player may be “executed” by another player standing over them (within 2feet of the individual), pointing their gun and calling “execute!” – there is no requirement to fire at this distance, players found doing so will risk ejection from the game.
- A Player who is wounded may ask for a Marshal to keep track of his time remaining – please bring your own watch as Marshals are busy and may not be available to facilitate your request.

Medics
A medic must carry bandages or rags to simulate field dressings. In order for a player to be “med-evac’d” out of the game zone they must be bandaged and seen by a medic.
Medics are permitted to be armed and may fight as part of a unit however they are obliged to make the effort to provide medical attention before engaging the enemy.
Medics may request escorted med-evac from any Marine Corps unit in their vicinity or by radioing to the MASH unit for extraction teams.
Medics may not carry anyone out of the fire zone on their own.
Medics must wear a red cross to signify their status as a medic.

Medical Escorts
May not return fire while carrying friendlies to a MASH unit.
May use stretchers to facilitate faster extractions however only 1 person may be transported in such a way at any time.
Where no stretcher is available an escort may extract a player by supporting the wounded man by the shoulder and walking out of the fire zone.

MASH Area
The MASH area is a “no-fire zone” where all wounded players must stay until permitted to return to the battle zone.
A wounded player who has been properly administered to by a medic must stay there for 15 minutes before they are permitted to return to the fire zone.
Wounded standard infantry must wait until there are at least ten men ready to return to the battle zone.
Wounded Special Forces must wait until there are at least 2 men ready to return to the battle zone.
Wounded Commanding officers may return to the battle zone alone (however they do this risking capture)
Players may be declared “DOA” at the MASH and must wait an additional 30 minutes before being permitted to return to the Fire Zone (this is to simulate the request for re-enforcements and punish you for getting killed)

Rules for capturing players

Standard infantry
Players are obliged to answer all questions put to them by their captors and are obliged to answer truthfully.
Players must be taken directly to an enemy camp to be immediately escorted back to their friendly base by a marshal (considered an out-of-character action).

Special Forces
Players must hand over all material intelligence in their possession.
Players may not be questioned by commanding officers.
Players may be executed at an enemy camp.
Players may only be kept prisoner for 1 hour before being either released or executed.

Commanding Officers
Players must hand over all material intelligence in their possession.
When returned to an enemy encampment commanding officers may be questioned by opposing commanding officers, they obliged to answer truthfully (though not clearly) all questions after they have been captive for 20 minutes.
Commanding officers must be released one hour after arrival at the enemy camp.

Escape & Evasion rules
Any prisoner may escape from his captors if he is left unrestrained (see restraint rules), unwatched or with access to an airsoft device.
The captors are permitted to pursue a player for up to 20 minutes (evasion) or until the players reach a friendly unit or battle line (escape).

Surrender rules
Players may surrender to enemy forces and are encouraged to do so as it soaks up the enemies resources and requires less down-time than being declared DOA.

Restraint rules
Players may be restrained by the use of hand-cuffs etc but must be left with a method of removing the devices and must not be physically restricted in their movement (for safety reasons). Where hand-cuffs are used a key must be left with the player so they may remove them if necessary. This is a role-playing tool and should not be abused.


Special rules
Commanding Officers
Fire missions
Commanding Officers can call in air strikes on enemy positions once per day.
Call into the HQ and request a fire mission, the commanders name will be taken off the list approved for fire missions and a Marshal in the area will be directed to inform all players within a specific zone that they are declared DOA.
All material intelligence in the fire zone is considered destroyed and should be confiscated by the marshal.

Green Berets, Navy SEALS and VC
Demolitions
Special Forces units may plant a small block of plastercine or play-doh on a specific target (communications ariel, ammo dumps etc) and can call in a Marshal to approve the demolition of the object.
Timers like alarm clocks may be used to provide time-delayed demolitions and allow the team time to extract however a Marshal must be informed before this is done. In such cases the timer must be designed to emit an audible noise upon “detonation”.
Absolutely no pyrotechnics should be used including smoke-devices.

Marine Corps
No man left behind
Marine Corps players are required to assist any medic attempting to extract any soldier when requested or that they come across.

Ammo Dumps
Forward bases and MASH sites etc will have ammo dumps at which you can re-load. However these are strategic points and may be targeted by the enemy for destruction or capture. Please listen for all marshal calls in these locations. You may only reload at a dump which is flying your flag.

Strategic points
These points may be captured for use as a mobile first aid centre which eliminates the requirement of returning to the MASH area. Medics must man these posts for them to be effective as such and can only be used if the correct flag is flying from the pole.

Rules of engagement

Power – All devices must be CJA2006 compliant.

Dead men – Do not talk. If you are caught doing so or giving away situational information you may be removed from the game.

No contact – Except for restraint and medic extraction you must never touch another player.

Cheating – If you are caught cheating you may be removed from the game without recourse, no obligatory warnings will be given.

Marshals – All marshals are to be obeyed and their decisions are final.

Game times – Time in at 8am time out at 10pm. There will be no rest periods, lunches etc. You can eat, use the bathroom etc in the MASH area or Camps but the games will not be called.


NOTE: Before people start to get upset over perceived safety issues the truth is - as we all know - if you play with the right people there isnt an issue. Goggles on. Don't act the plank. Have a little faith in other people and where that doesnt work - call a marshal. The above is about setting the parameters for the game with a large number of people involved - changes need to be made depending on the numbers.

Commanders: Note that you will have to be declared before arriving to the venue and have a mug shot available for reproduction clearly showing your facial features. Espionage is part of the war effort after all.