Breast Implants, what do you think?

Filan · 01-08-2008 06:06PM #1

A large article in today's Irish Time's about breast implants where they were seriously derided. Allegedly most men 'hate them' and the women including Jordan and Victoria Beckham were deemed 'freaks' and artificial . It was also alleged that it's an unsafe surgery. What do other's here think?.

JP Liz · 01-08-2008 06:11PM

I think at the end of day its up to the individual if they feel and look good with them or not.

I wouldnt get them and i think some look terrible

Dudess · 01-08-2008 07:05PM

I'm fairly well endowed so obviously I wouldn't get it done, but it would also be rich of me to say I'd never get it done if I had no boobs - considering I'd hate to not have boobs. But implants can be designed to look more natural now - a "teardrop" shape rather than just a spherical one (which doesn't look great). Dita Von Teese has fake breasts and they look very natural.

The more natural looking ones might be more expensive though...

Wibbs · 01-08-2008 07:14PM

They feel like crap though. really obvious.

Loopy · 01-08-2008 07:26PM

Wibbs wrote: »

They feel like crap though. really obvious.

Coming from the expert;)

My sister had it done a few years ago and hers look fantastic, really natural. It changed her life as she previously had 2 jelly tots:p

I wouldn't have it done but I can see the attraction in it.. My sisters look nothing like Jodie Marsh's or Jordans, jesus what are those girls thinking:rolleyes:

Zaph · 01-08-2008 07:42PM

In fairness, Jodie Marsh should get that weird nose of her's sorted out before she starts having any other bits of her body modified.

Will · 01-08-2008 07:44PM

body modification senses are tingling

Tbh not had up close and personal experience with the fakes ones. Seen plenty of pics of fake boobs, most are all very poorly done judging from the scar tissue underneath the breast. Very few are well done... that ive seen

Flamed Diving · 01-08-2008 07:47PM

Dudess wrote: »

I'm fairly well endowed so obviously I wouldn't get it done, but it would also be rich of me to say I'd never get it done if I had no boobs - considering I'd hate to not have boobs. But implants can be designed to look more natural now - a "teardrop" shape rather than just a spherical one (which doesn't look great). Dita Von Teese has fake breasts and they look very natural.

The more natural looking ones might be more expensive though...

*grope*

rossie1977 · 01-08-2008 08:07PM

Filan wrote: »

A large article in today's Irish Time's about breast implants where they were seriously derided. Allegedly most men 'hate them' and the women including Jordan and Victoria Beckham were deemed 'freaks' and artificial . It was also alleged that it's an unsafe surgery. What do other's here think?.

yeah pretty much sums it up for me, my brother met victoria in person and said she is the freakiest looking person he has seen.

Dita Von Teese boobs don't look natural, there are loads of pictures of her doing the dancing from a few years ago

Phlann · 01-08-2008 09:14PM

Some of the hottest girls I know have small breasts so I don't see what the fuss is about. I don't think it's healthy to be so insecure about your body.

All those glamour models with fake boobs are absolutely hideous imo, but that's as much to do with the kind of people they appear to be as the surgical work they've had done.

Jodie Marsh's nose is unbelievable.

Wibbs · 01-08-2008 10:46PM

looptheloop wrote: »

Coming from the expert;)

Well in fairness I only ever felt one example(well two if you know...) You could feel them very distinctly. Those were of the silicone variety, maybe the saline ones are better?

WindSock · 01-08-2008 10:46PM

Flamed Diving wrote: »

*grope*

I understand that a thread about boobies may give you the horn, but please keep those dirty little thoughts to yourself when in this forum.

cuckoo · 02-08-2008 04:30PM

I'm of the "her body, her choice" school of thought.

Any surgery is not something that should be undertaken lightly, but then it would be patronising of me to assume that all women who chose to have implants are shallow teeny boppers. I think implants have an important role to play in reconstructive surgery, eg post breast cancer treatment.

The Victoria Beckhams and Jordans of the world have been rewarded financially for looking outside of the norm. It's not really all that different from elite athletes, who also mould their bodies into an extreme - we're just a little less snobby about the people who are aiming to feature in the Olympics instead of Heat magazine.

trio · 02-08-2008 08:16PM

I think that if someone having zero breasts is really affecting their confidence to the extent that they have sex with their bra on, then yeah, I wouldn't judge that one bit.

Mind you, they only last about 15 years. Remember how we used to joke about future generations digging up coffins and finding two perfect implants in a pile of dust? Well now surgeons have well and truly realised that it is never going to happen.

So if you get implants at 20, then you'll have to get them replaced at 35, then at 50, then at 65. It's a lot of upkeep, and it's a lot of accumulated scar tissue.

But if I were absolutely going to do it, then tear-shaped is the way to go. The Victoria "grapefruit" look is completely out of fashion now.

pookie82 · 02-08-2008 08:33PM

Wow didn't know that Dita's were fake, they look great!!!!

I'm undecided about implants to be honest. I'm only a B cup and although I've always been assured by boyfriend's they're lovely little things blah blah blah (what else are they going to say??? :-) ) I've always longed to be bigger. No bigger than a C cup mind, wouldn't want to Jordan or anything.

The only thing that would put me off is the shape I've seen most people emerge with. I've heard of the tear drop implant but I haven't seen it in action too much. I couldn't bear the "smuggling footballs under my chin" look that VB sports, I'd rather have absolutely nothing. Not sure if i'd ever spend that much on boobies but sometimes I see a really nice C cup and I long for a more generous top half.

Having said all that, I never realised until I went into the gym changing rooms how much....ehm.... falling occurs when bras are removed. Even seemingly perky girls can often dip south to quite an extent without a bra. So then i think maybe I'll stick with what I have, as they still point outwards when I take off my bra!!! (Not to imply that every other girl droops or anything, just trying to take the positives into account!!!). Plus I really like their shape so I'd be terrified that surgery would ruin that. And the ability to go bra-less in hot weather is a plus too.

But I'd never rule fake boobs out if I could get a good enough look. I can totally understand small breasted women getting a really feminine confidence boost from having bigger breasts.

LadyJ · 02-08-2008 08:38PM

I think breasts look great in all shapes and sizes. I can see why someone with practically no breasts or with giant breasts would want surgery but otherwise I think people should just leave them alone. Women like Jordan and Jodie Marsh look like lunatics. It's not remotely attractive imo.

I have 34B breasts and some days they look small and other days they look pretty damn big (depending on what I wear and the time of the month etc.). I like them, my man likes them and that's good enough for me. I would never want implants.

People should do whatever they want but I sort of wish women could be happy with their breasts because a lot of them have very distorted views of their bodies and can't see that they look great.

ozchick · 02-08-2008 09:10PM

Personally no. After having kids a friend and I joked about getting them, but bear in mind how your body will change as you age and I love mine now, even if they aren't pert like when 20.

Also have you seen any pics of old ladies with implants...there was a pic going round a while ago of some bird in her 70's in a bikini with two hard lumps on her chest and everything else was..well approriate for her age!;) :eek: It looked awful.

Friend of mine saw an old lady at the pool change rooms and said she had them and it was a truly hideous look. Guess it depends if you keep them covered!

Each to their own, but like tatoos, don't forget skin does age and sag and what looks got at 25 or 35 may look very different in 30 more years time

akamossy · 02-08-2008 11:13PM

Each to their own i suppose, it's their bodies, let em do what they want with them, i personally wouldn't cuz well i don't need them

but it's the individuals choice and if they are unhappy with it why shouldn't they go for it!

panda100 · 03-08-2008 10:33PM

Women who get breast implants are getting them totally for men.We might say its about boosting self esteem and confidence but ultimatly its about what men like,what men see as desirable,It is not about what women want or like.

What hetersoexual women here gets turned on by bigger,firmer breasts?

As I said before on here How can it be a good way to build body confidence by, risking your life in an unnecessary medical procedure, losing the natural sensitization in your nipples and having plastic collagen inserted into your chest!

I can completly understand why women with small,droopy breasts would feel ashamed of what nature has given them. Most women,myself included,dont get to see many actual 'real' breasts.The only breasts we see are on the front cover of 'loaded' and 'zoo' in the newsagents or The sun . Our normal breasts are always gonna fall short beacuse when we lie down they fall to the side,there floppy and arent these too perfect melons.
I think Breast surgery is giving women a false confidence beacuse ultimatly you are pleasing men and not yourself. Also Its not even pleasing men beacuse Its only what society has dictated for men to be turned on by.This youthful,big bosomed playboy freak.

There needs to be more pictures of 'real' breasts out there so women realise there breasts are normal,that droppy and saggy is normal and its not unattractive,its natural and nothing is more beautiful than nature.

Zaph · 03-08-2008 10:58PM

panda100 wrote: »

Women who get breast implants are getting them totally for men.We might say its about boosting self esteem and confidence but ultimatly its about what men like,what men see as desirable,It is not about what women want or like.

It's a point I wouldn't necessarily disagree with entirely, but I'd imagine that there are women for whom having a more "feminine" figure is a self esteem issue and they really are getting implants for themselves. That said, I'd be interested to know what percentage of women who get impants are gay.

Ginny · 04-08-2008 01:01AM

Meh. I've debated this, I have thought about going up maybe one cup size as I have a quite uncommon size, I am in no way flat chested but I can understand why people do it.
Each to their own once its not porn star proportions.

hussey · 04-08-2008 09:49AM

panda100 wrote: »

Women who get breast implants are getting them totally for men.We might say its about boosting self esteem and confidence but ultimatly its about what men like,what men see as desirable,It is not about what women want or like.

I don't agree with this fully, breasts are a part of being a women. Someone who doesn't have breasts may feel inadequate, and loose self confidence, as they feel as they are unattractive. Men's desire for breasts have been around for thousands of years, (as so have women's desires to please men). It is natural visual signal of fertility.

Although I see your point, and one could go on to argue that wearing make-up/Wonder-bra or Corset/dressing up, is essentially all about attracting a man.

A friend of mine had inverted nipples and pretty much nothing there at all, went and got surgery to a B cup, and has never looked back, a complete different person.

Personally I think Jordan et al. are disgusting, those big massive footballs are very off putting. Scarlett J any day of the week.

Phlann · 04-08-2008 05:48PM

hussey wrote: »

Men's desire for breasts have been around for thousands of years, (as so have women's desires to please men). It is natural visual signal of fertility.

True, but the problem is that the desire for breasts is often confused as a desire for large breasts, which isn't really the case... I think that misconception plays a big part in the 'massive fake boobs' phenomenon. I know lads mags and porn and the like don't seem to support that, but the women in those fields are essentially just charicatures of men's sexual desires and the reality, naturally, is somewhat removed from that image.

If men were really possessed of an instinctual predilection for women with large breasts I reckon that would be backed up by genetic evidence... ie large breasted women would be in the majority because historically they would have passed on their genes more often than small breasted women.

You only need to take a look around (and for many of you here you'll only have to glance downwards :pac: ) to see that isn't really the case.

I find that 32B give or take is roughly average for a lot of girls but obviously that's not definitive since I haven't seen every pair of breasts in the world... yet.

If you would like to assist with this study please send me a PM.

04-08-2008 08:53PM

panda100 wrote: »

Women who get breast implants are getting them totally for men.

I stumbled upon this recently. I meant to drag it up again for peared, but I couldn't find it at the time. Have no idea why actually.

It shows a selection of real womens breasts. I was a bit shocked by the appearance of some them.

The post birth and breastfeeding pics are in the galleries denoted by letters.

***Warning - NSFW*** http://www.007b.com/breast_gallery.php

It isn't always about men and size.
There are several examples there that I would be unhappy with.
I can't help feeling that if you get a chance to look, you'll agree.

Stheno · 04-08-2008 09:28PM

Moonbaby wrote: »

I stumbled upon this recently. I meant to drag it up again for peared, but I couldn't find it at the time. Have no idea why actually.

It shows a selection of real womens breasts. I was a bit shocked by the appearance of some them.

The post birth and breastfeeding pics are in the galleries denoted by letters.

***Warning - NSFW*** http://www.007b.com/breast_gallery.php

It isn't always about men and size.
There are several examples there that I would be unhappy with.
I can't help feeling that if you get a chance to look, you'll agree.

Wow I'd agree with you there that if some of those women wanted surgery, I'd say go for it.

Some of the posts were quite sad

rainbow kirby · 05-08-2008 12:07AM

I can understand why someone would want to get them if they had really tiny boobs and it was affecting their confidence. I'd much prefer to be a lot smaller though - I'd love a reduction because being a DD/E cup is really annoying!

Dragan · 05-08-2008 10:22AM

Having been with a couple of woman who had work done i must confess that i much prefer natural breasts. Sure, the original interest of "what are fakes like" got me going but they were just less fun to play with that real ones at the end of the day.

That said, one of the girls i was with had a very realistic job done that looked fantastic.

At the end of the day it's up to the person themselves, and no one else is really in a position to decide if someone else is getting something done for the "right" reasons.

05-08-2008 10:35AM

rainbow kirby wrote: »

I can understand why someone would want to get them if they had really tiny boobs and it was affecting their confidence. I'd much prefer to be a lot smaller though - I'd love a reduction because being a DD/E cup is really annoying!

I know that feeling.
Luckily my boobs contracted an incredible shrinking disease.
If they keep going I'll be a B!
But I absolutely hated them when they were an E.

Still operations scare me, wouldn't go through with one unless it was uber necessary. Particularly in this country.

Gary ITR · 05-08-2008 11:29AM

TBH it's shape over size for me every time. Big boobs for me is fairly unattractive

jellie · 05-08-2008 11:39AM

i can understand why women would do it if its really affecting their self esteem. but in that way its really no different to any other surgery - nose job, etc. changing what you have to what you would prefer to have.

from talking about it with exes, it seems most men would prefer real to fake anyway, even if theyre a bit smaller.

wouldnt mind mine being a bit smaller, getting pretty bras in bigger sizes is expensive! i was told by an ex they were the best thing about me.. i didnt know whether to take it as a compliment or to be insulted that my chest was the most attractive thing about me

panda100 · 05-08-2008 12:30PM

Zaph wrote: »

That said, I'd be interested to know what percentage of women who get impants are gay.

Im sure gay women come under the same superficial pressures of society as straight women.
Just like If there was pictures of ‘perfect’ penises everywhere, on the newsstands, in the movies, in the papers, in music videos, in adverts, on tv men would start to feel inadequate too about how their penises look. I like Naomis wolfs comparison:

Imagine this: penis implants, penis augementation, foreskin enchancment, testicular silicone injections to correct asymmetry, saline injections, surgery to correct the angle of erection, to lift the scrotum and make it pert. Before and after shots of the augmented penis in Loaded and Esquire. Risks: Total numbing of the glans, diminution of sexual feeling, permanent obliteration of sexual feeling, glans rigidity, to the consistency of hard plastic. Testicular swelling and hardening with probable collapse Leakage. Unknon long term consequences. Weeks of recovery during which time the penis must not be touched.

The above procedures are undergone because they make men sexy to women, or so men are told.

Civilised people will agree that these mutilations are so horrible that a women should not even be able to think them. Yet women’s sexuality is so grossly turned inside out that we identify more with male pleasure than our own female pleasure.

Women are having their breasts cut open and sacs of gel implanted, completely eradicating women of erotic stimulation in this area,in order to make them "feel better about themselves". Its a form of sexual mutilation If you ask me and we have to question a society that allows this to happen.

Moonbaby wrote: »

***Warning - NSFW*** http://www.007b.com/breast_gallery.php

I can apprecaiate the fact that If someones breasts look severly mutilated(which only one or two on there do) then surgery would be an option. However we have to put this into context the hundreds of thousands of Irish women and the millions in the UK and US do not all have horrific mutilated breats. No,most women who undergo breast enlargments have completly normal breasts.

There is no way I would say to a friend of mine or one of my sisters If It makes you happy then go for it. Not only is she risking her life in an unnecessary medical procedure but also risking it after,take for example detecting breast cancer is extremely difficult after breast surgery. I would ask her If having these more 'perfect' breasts would really make up for the fact that she probably wont be able to breast feed her children ,will never get that great sensation when a guy touches your breasts again, along with the pain,losing the softness of her breats and other side effects.

I think the best way to boost confidence in women is to expose both men and women to what real breasts actually look likes and to celebrate them. Women are kept ignorant about what breasts really look like. Society screens breasts so we never see those that are soft,or asymmetrical,or mature,or that have gone through the changes of pregnancy. Beauty censorship keeps us in profound denial about other women real bodies We need to start looking at stretch marks, droopiness etc not as flaws but as natural and natural is beautiful. Women have to start questioning why their confidence in their bodies is knocked so consistently* and why it needs to be rebuilt so drastically through surgery.

*Hint: Money,Theres a lot of corporation (and surgeons) making a lot of money of women feeling bad about the way they look .

Dragan · 05-08-2008 12:51PM

panda100 wrote: »

Just like If there was pictures of ‘perfect’ penises everywhere, on the newsstands, in the movies, in the papers, in music videos, in adverts, on tv men would start to feel inadequate too about how their penises look.

The psychobable is already being aimed at men. If i pick up a Magazine aimed at guys it will be loaded with ads for Viagra, Calex, penis enlargement, books about chat up lines and how to succeed with women, how to make more money, how to look betters.

Ads will imply that David Beckham is a success not because he is him but rather because he is not like me.

Articles and Editorials will detail why Actor A or Singer B is so much better than the rest of us, how his looks help him lay some random bint and why he was loved in school.

Advertisements and "shopping sections" ( Thanks GQ for that one you shower of gurlz! ) will tell me that sandals and gardigans are in, t-shirts are out and if i really want to do that chick behind the counter in Morgan i had better dress to impress.

It's all a load of rubbish. No offence to the Ladies or the Lizards but i personally find the whole thing pathetic.... popular media is kept alive by praying on fears....for newspapers its' largely xenophobia, safety and economic instability, for magazines it's grinding down the esteem of the reader and then offering a substitute.

That said, it is simply not my place to decide what someone else wants to do to themselves, or why.

Flamed Diving · 05-08-2008 12:55PM

Is that what magazines say? I wouldn't know because I don't waste my money on such rubbish. That must be why I am quite comfortable with my looks!

Dragan · 05-08-2008 12:58PM

Flamed Diving wrote: »

Is that what magazines say? I wouldn't know because I don't waste my money on such rubbish. That must be why I am quite comfortable with my looks!

From what i can see, yeah. I don't buy them but end up flicking through them in friends houses whilst waiting for them to make my tea.

Reku · 06-08-2008 07:54AM

Bags of mostly fat Vs. bags of mostly fat & silicone... can't say that I see a big difference appeal wise.:rolleyes:
Recently I keep hearing about this injection method that increases your breasts by 1 cup size, costs £3000 STG and only lasts 3 years. In short some women's bodies are depreciating by £1000 STG a year, AFAIK most cars (after the first year) don't even suffer that level of depreciation per annum!:D

I do tend to feel that whether or not people admit it to themselves they are getting the cosmetic surgery for others (whether male or female) and if their lives are so shaped by others that this matters that much to them I have to wonder if they will ever in fact be happy. Fix A people start to notice B is a bit off, fix B & people start to notice C, etc....
The body was not meant to be perfect, if it were evolution would be out the window as would dating & love since the offspring would be the same regardless of who mates with who. Every time a person goes under the knife like this they give up some of their uniqueness to fit to what marketing tells us all is the ideal beauty/shape.
Some will genuinely get it for themselves, but then even when you look at the far cheaper body augments of piercings and tattoos there seems to be a rather large proportion of people who worry about what others think of their mods and whether so-and-so thinks they are cool as a result, as such I'd say most cosmetic surgery is also more about other people than the person getting the work done.

Besides, reality is if someone likes you for your body (whether augmented or not) then they'll be gone soon enough since aging will take it's toll, if someone likes you for you then even after you're dead they'll still think of you and wish to have you around, so you can fork out the cash for fake friends or get real ones for free.

Oryx · 06-08-2008 11:25AM

I had breast surgery for medical reasons, leaving me asymmetric. So I thought long and hard about augmentation. I decided against it for the following reasons:

The pain and risk of surgery
That I would end up with more scarring
I would inevitably have to get it done more than once given my age.
Encapsulation was a big risk, esp given my medical history.
I would end up not liking the result, or it would go wrong.

Eventually I came to terms with how I looked and I realised it did not define me. Overcoming how I initially felt about it and learning it did not matter was what defined me.

Plus, I reckoned that if I gave in to the feeling that bad boobies were making my life wrong and I fixed them, then it was my confidence that was at fault and not my body. Other things would sag or whatever, and Id never be happy! We all get bad hair/boobs/skin days, you need to deal with it somehow without taking drastic measures, (or wed all have a surgeon on speed dial and be seriously messed up)

Dee369369 · 06-08-2008 11:22PM

I would never get it done i couldn't put myself through the pain i wouldn't wear plasters for years cos i was afraid of the pain pulling it off!
Anyway even though mine are small they're a nice shape and i'm happy with them.

Also i never knew dita von tesse had fake boobs they look great you really wouldn't think it.

Madame Razz · 07-08-2008 07:44AM

meh, I've got small boobs and am proud.

I don't think i'd like them to be any bigger to be honest, they're very manageable the way they are, and its great not to have to mess around with special bras, or having trouble getting clothes to fit etc.

I have two good friends who are quite slight but well-endowed, and they have such difficulty with simple things like underwear, and clothes, and swimwear, a lot of the time ending up having to buy a size or two bigger for their chest: i would hate the hassle of this!!!

They also attract the attention really leery drunken scummy men when we're out:eek:.

And I have been told a few times that mine are lovely in the flesh, so i can't complain!!;)

Although I must say the difference in bra sizes between companies is ridiculous; they really should make them more uniform!! I'm a proper 34b, but can be a size 34A or C depending on the manufacturer!!!

Breast Implants, what do you think?

Comments