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Why is Kickboxing not in the olympics

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Clive


    Not wanting to rain on anyone's parade, but the chances of any new martial arts getting into the olympics at this stage are slim.

    They can become recognised International Sports Federations (much like karate, sumo and wushu) but they ain't going to be part of the games. They are trying to decrease the number of sports not increase them - there was talk about dropping Greco at one stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Taekwondo narrowly avoided the bullet too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    I'd could live with them alternating between greco and submission wrestling for a while. that would be cool. i've heard rumours of sambo looking for entry but as clive says i find that hard to believe. i think judo is too big to be replaced/alternated with bjj.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Pingu


    Sambo is looking for an entry, it was discussed at the World Congress last year. At the moment they are continuing to expand the numbers to have a better chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Hero Of College


    Every other bloody sport is in the Olympics. No reason why Kick Boxing shouldn't be in there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭ryoishin


    They should just make darts part of the olympics with a 13 pints of Bud as minimum, then we d see some kickboxing over bad calls!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭RedRaven


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Is it RedRaven?
    Yes my man, loads of indicators that this will happen, invites to the torch lighting in Beijing, representation at various meetings and sporting events over the past 2 to 3 years...its coming!!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    cowzerp wrote: »
    Boxing and Wrestling where part of the early day olympics, thats why there gauranteed entry, pankraton was also so would have a better chance of been in, this would be the closest thing to mma,

    kickboxing is only a modern sport and if it was to be included then dozens of other similar sports could claim entry too! plus all the splits and organisations would make it impossibe]le also..

    boxing has lots of different organizations how do they work it?
    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    Suppose it’s just frustrating that the like’s of 10m air pistol gets in and kickboxing can't. Not taking anything away from 10m air pistol I respect that that’s their sport and have worked very hard to get to the Olympics but seriously how many competitors world wide compete seriously in 10m air pistol V’s kb or mt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭SorGan


    taekwondo is in it, isnt that kickboxing? or quite similar in competition?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭Colm_OReilly


    siochain wrote: »
    boxing has lots of different organizations how do they work it?
    Cheers


    One world governing body recognised for amateur boxing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭Tim_Murphy


    SorGan wrote: »
    taekwondo is in it, isnt that kickboxing? or quite similar in competition?
    ITF style TKD is quite similar to Light Contact Kickboxing. WTF, or Olympic, TKD is basically a completely different sport, which isn't that similar to Kickboxing, or indeed to ITF TKD.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    Sanshou was going to be a host sport this time around, but the various wushu governing bodies couldn't agree. First the form dansers didn't want it there, and wanted to have a forms only competition. They gave some very lame reasoning.
    My own belief is that they know from experience that where sanshou and forms competitions are held at the same event, noone is interested in watching 50 versions of the same form.
    Also a traditional wushu organisation wanted to restrict the entrants to their brand only of sanshou fighters, they even held qualifiers last year in China, with lads representing countries with less than 5 fights, where established and ranked international fighters weren't given a look in. The IOC wasn't too impressed.
    So we have no sanshou this year, shame really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    Kickboxing got GAISF ( http://www.agfisonline.com/ ) recognition a year or two ago, this is the first step in getting to the olympics but id say it would be a long way off. WAKO are the body that gaisf recognise... this is the "new wako" which as far as im aware is the merging of IAKSA and the old WAKO.
    Mauy Thai has gaisf recognition also so if KB made it to the olympics it would probably be full contact. Semi would be in the running also and maybe forms?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    siochain wrote: »
    boxing has lots of different organizations how do they work it?
    Cheers

    As said before, boxing has 1 world governing body, kickboxing is a mess in this way-i dont see why it should be included anyway, if it should then why not kenpo, wada ryu, etc....

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Mikel


    Roper wrote: »
    Are you people arguing about javelin being a martial art or not?

    I love the internet.
    LOL, funniest thread ever!
    I can't wait til the next 'what is a ma thread'.
    I think the bow and arrow is more of a ma than the javelin


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 108 ✭✭conor rowan


    marial arts in olympics

    boxing
    grecoroman
    fencing
    freestyle wrestling
    tkd
    judo

    taking martial arts definition to be 2 people fighting

    olympics has a cap on level of sports now so if you want a new one another one has to be dropped. case in point, iron man was in sydney olympics, no sign of it in beijing.

    every year loads of sports are trying to get in. its unlikely that a new ma will be added as the mas dont have much lobbying power, i think either rubgy 7s (met irb lad over lobbying for it in the pub) or golf would be my tips for the new sports.

    i for one would like to see more ma added and soccer and tennis kicked out. the olympics should be the pinnacle of an athletes career not something a pro does in the quiet season or as training for the next open


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭cletus


    This is from the Olympic Charter http://multimedia.olympic.org/pdf/en_report_122.pdf

    Sports Programme, Admission of Sports,
    Disciplines and Events
    The IOC establishes the programme of the Olympic Games, which
    only includes Olympic Sports.
    88 In force as from 1 September 2004
    Chapter 5
    The Olympic Games
    1 Olympic Sports included in the Programme of the Olympic
    Games:
    To be included in the programme of the Olympic Games, an
    Olympic sport must conform to the following criteria:
    1.1 only sports widely practised by men in at least seventyfive
    countries and on four continents, and by women in
    at least forty countries and on three continents, may be
    included in the programme of the Games of the
    Olympiad;
    1.2 only sports widely practised in at least twenty-five
    countries and on three continents may be included in the
    programme of the Olympic Winter Games;
    1.3 only sports that adopt and implement the World Anti-
    Doping Code can be included and remain in the
    programme of the Olympic Games;
    1.4 sports are admitted to the programme of the Olympic
    Games at least seven years before specific Olympic
    Games in respect of which no change shall thereafter be
    permitted, subject to paragraph 6 below.

    Mission and Role of the IFs within the Olympic Movement
    1 The mission and role of the IFs within the Olympic
    Movement are:
    1.1 to establish and enforce, in accordance with the Olympic
    spirit, the rules concerning the practice of their respective
    sports and to ensure their application;
    1.2 to ensure the development of their sports throughout
    the world;
    1.3 to contribute to the achievement of the goals set out in
    the Olympic Charter, in particular by way of the spread
    of Olympism and Olympic education;
    1.4 to express their opinions on the candidatures for
    organising the Olympic Games, in particular as far as the
    technical aspects of venues for their respective sports are
    concerned;

    Chapter 3
    The International Federations (IFs)
    58 In force as from 1 September 2004
    Chapter 3
    The International Federations
    1.5 to establish their criteria of eligibility for the competitions
    of the Olympic Games in conformity with the Olympic
    Charter, and to submit these to the IOC for approval;
    1.6 to assume the responsibility for the technical control and
    direction of their sports at the Olympic Games and at the
    Games held under the patronage of the IOC;
    1.7 to provide technical assistance in the practical
    implementation of the Olympic Solidarity programmes.
    2 In addition, the IFs have the right to:
    2.1 formulate proposals addressed to the IOC concerning
    the Olympic Charter and the Olympic Movement;
    2.2 collaborate in the preparation of Olympic Congresses;
    2.3 participate, on request from the IOC, in the activities
    of the IOC commissions.
    In force as from 1 September 2004 59


    I don't think that kick boxing, bjj, or mma conform to all the requirements here


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