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D80 replacement is here = D90

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  • #2
    Diarmuid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭Diarmuid


    As the proud owner of a D70, it seems like the D80 only came out yesterday. I guess the D90 would be a good upgrade option from the D70 but I haven't seen any price figures yet


  • #3
    run_Forrest_run
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    I'll stick with my trusty D80 for a lot longer.


  • #4
    oeb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭oeb


    Diarmuid wrote: »
    As the proud owner of a D70, it seems like the D80 only came out yesterday. I guess the D90 would be a good upgrade option from the D70 but I haven't seen any price figures yet

    Suggested price on that site is just under a grand USD for body only.


  • #5
    Diarmuid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭Diarmuid


    oeb wrote: »
    Suggested price on that site is just under a grand USD for body only.
    :o ahem you are right. Had only looked on another review site...


  • #6
    njburke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭njburke


    Just read through the specs, the 3" LCD is the same as that of the d300, which is glorious compared to the display on my d70 .
    I've seen the Euro price at 899E yet the US price is 999$ for body only, wheres globalisation when you need it ?


    Niall


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  • #7
    eas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭eas


    D90 in action....

    http://www.chasejarvisandfriends.com/


  • #8
    thedarkroom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭thedarkroom


    Check these out

    http://www.nikonproducts.co.uk/

    http://www.europe-nikon.com/news_room/news.html?locale=en_GB&bandwidth=broad&id=1705&type_index=2&universe=home

    http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1617/overview.html


  • #9
    brav
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭brav


    When I first saw this I thought nothing of it, live view etc added I expected.

    I did not expect video capture to be added(ny times link), I didn't hear anyone talking about this? I think its a great feature!


  • #10
    Stephen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    WANT. Looks like a great upgrade for my humble-but-slightly-damaged D50 :) Any idea of availability? I'm travelling to the US at the weekend for 3 weeks so it'd be fantastic if I could pick one up while I'm there.


  • #11
    melekalikimaka
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055349637&highlight=nikon

    and as i said in that thread
    melekalikimaka wrote: »
    really cheapening the whole dslr thing with video imo. nothing special to me. just a d80 with video and slight upgrades, i'd go for a cheaper d80 over this, seems targeted and the bridge boys with dslr aspirations, its a drop from prosumer to consumer

    melekalikimaka wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    money grabbing tactics on the nikon part, targetting yuppie point and shooters with more cash than sense and and equipment w%nk mentality


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  • #12
    quilmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭quilmore


    I don't agree
    the D300's sensor and lcd screen are just enough to move on from the D80

    video can be a bit of a useless gimmick and HDMI could be useful for some
    but I think what nikon has done is kill the d300
    why somebody will spend a 50% premium on the d90 for the d300?
    if you're really serious you'll save a bit more and go for the D700


  • #13
    leohoju
    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭leohoju


    quilmore wrote: »
    why somebody will spend a 50% premium on the d90 for the d300?

    For:
    • The 51 focus points
    • The faster fps (6/8 versus 4.5)
    • Weather sealing
    • Faster shutter speed (1/8000 versus 1/4000)
    • Being able to shoot in 14-bit RAW and TIFF
    • Better metering system
    • Higher flash speed synch (1/250 versus 1/200)
    • Better battery life (1000 shots versus 850 shots if Nikon is to be believed)

    are just a few reasons why people would pay more for the D300. Also, not everyone wants to move to FX - for example sports shooters, who appreciate the extra reach the crop factor gives.


  • #14
    MooseJam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    Stephen wrote: »
    WANT. Looks like a great upgrade for my humble-but-slightly-damaged D50 :) Any idea of availability? I'm travelling to the US at the weekend for 3 weeks so it'd be fantastic if I could pick one up while I'm there.

    make sure you declare it on your return for tax


  • #15
    Phototoxin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Phototoxin


    can it AF with AF-S lenses though ? =p


  • #16
    Masada
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    Looks interesting.,
    i might be looking to move up from the D80 myself.,


  • #17
    quilmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭quilmore


    Phototoxin wrote: »
    can it AF with AF-S lenses though ? =p

    yes, as with any other AF or AF-D


  • #18
    quilmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭quilmore


    The 51 focus points

    I have the D300 and very rarely use the 51 points, a bit too many, 11 is OK, 51 only useful when shooting flying birds


    The faster fps (6/8 versus 4.5)

    4.5 fps is not what you call slow, also, what percentage of your every day pictures do you take on bursts?


    Weather sealing

    you may have a point there


    Faster shutter speed (1/8000 versus 1/4000)

    again, when will you take a picture at 1/4000? I don't thing I've ever done that


    Being able to shoot in 14-bit RAW and TIFF

    I have the option, a waste of memory card, I never could see a difference from 12-bits to 14-bits even in a colorimeter calibrated screen


    Better metering system

    Really? where did you find that out? I didn't know


    Higher flash speed synch (1/250 versus 1/200)

    not much of a difference, isn't it? I still remember the 1/500 of the d70


    Better battery life (1000 shots versus 850 shots if Nikon is to be believed)

    again, not something that will make or break your day, except if you go on safari, but then you'll have a spare battery or two


    Also, not everyone wants to move to FX - for example sports shooters, who appreciate the extra reach the crop factor gives.

    that's me, I do like the crop factor of the D300
    I wish I could get a high res crop factor sensor with the low noise output of the d700/d3


  • #19
    pixbyjohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    run_Forrest_run wrote: »
    I'll stick with my trusty D80 for a lot longer.
    +1
    So will I. Is video really required on a DSLR. Sure we can all get dedicated Video cameras if we need to take "movies"


  • #20
    Phototoxin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Phototoxin


    Also, not everyone wants to move to FX - for example sports shooters, who appreciate the extra reach the crop factor gives.

    that's me, I do like the crop factor of the D300
    I wish I could get a high res crop factor sensor with the low noise output of the d700/d3

    does that mean that DX lenses only work ? what happens if I put on a film lens ? o.o


  • #21
    Stephen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Non-DX lenses will work fine. Their image circle will be larger than the DX sensor so you get the aforementioned crop factor. Your 300mm telephoto will in effect be 450mm.


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  • #22
    leohoju
    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭leohoju


    The 51 focus points

    I have the D300 and very rarely use the 51 points, a bit too many, 11 is OK, 51 only useful when shooting flying birds

    Perhaps not for you, but there will be some who'd prefer the extra points.

    The faster fps (6/8 versus 4.5)

    4.5 fps is not what you call slow, also, what percentage of your every day pictures do you take on bursts?

    Me? None. But I'm sure there some who'd appreciate the extra bust rate, for example, again, sports shooters.


    Weather sealing

    you may have a point there


    Faster shutter speed (1/8000 versus 1/4000)

    again, when will you take a picture at 1/4000? I don't thing I've ever done that

    It's not something that you're likely to use on a daily basis of course, but the having the option is nice. But yes, that alone is certainly not worth an extra €500 (or whatever the price difference between the D300 and D90 will be).

    Being able to shoot in 14-bit RAW and TIFF

    I have the option, a waste of memory card, I never could see a difference from 12-bits to 14-bits even in a colorimeter calibrated screen

    Okay, I'll bow to your superior knowledge on that. I would have thought it would allow for more capability while editing photos, a la using Adobe RGB instead of sRBG for your colour space.

    Better metering system

    Really? where did you find that out? I didn't know

    For the D300:
    1,005-pixel RGB sensor 3D Color Matrix Metering II
    Variable Center-weighted
    Spot
    Spot AF

    For the D90:
    420 pixel RGB sensor 3D Color Matrix Metering II
    Center-weighted
    Spot

    Whether one is better than the other is probably open for debate and it was a poor choice of wording by me in the original post.


    Higher flash speed synch (1/250 versus 1/200)

    not much of a difference, isn't it? I still remember the 1/500 of the d70

    It's not that much of a difference, correct. Again there are some though who'll be happy with the extra 1/50 of a second. Plus the D300 can go up to 1/8000, while the D90 can "only" go up to 1/4000.


    Better battery life (1000 shots versus 850 shots if Nikon is to be believed)

    again, not something that will make or break your day, except if you go on safari, but then you'll have a spare battery or two

    Yes, but that is an extra 150 off one battery. Nikon actually states the performance to be 3,000 for the D300 (not really indicative of real life shooting though), while the CIPA standard is 1,000. That was my mistake.

    Individually these things might not be the reason to prefer the D300 over the D90, but together they might be enough to prefer one of the other.


    Also, not everyone wants to move to FX - for example sports shooters, who appreciate the extra reach the crop factor gives.

    that's me, I do like the crop factor of the D300
    I wish I could get a high res crop factor sensor with the low noise output of the d700/d3

    But the D300 is supposed to have very close to a D3/D700 performance at high ISOs (even though it can't reach the 12,800 and 25,600 levels), isn't it?


  • #23
    eas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭eas


    leohoju wrote: »


    But the D300 is supposed to have very close to a D3/D700 performance at high ISOs (even though it can't reach the 12,800 and 25,600 levels), isn't it?



    I'm afraid not. Although the d300 is quite good in this area but it can't compete with the d3/d700. You'll start to see a difference as low as iso 400. From iso 800 up it's D3/D700 by a long shot.


  • #24
    quilmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭quilmore


    eas wrote: »
    I'm afraid not. Although the d300 is quite good in this area but it can't compete with the d3/d700. You'll start to see a difference as low as iso 400. From iso 800 up it's D3/D700 by a long shot.

    correct
    the sensor of the d300/d90 is miles better than anything other than the sensor of the d3/d700, but the gap between them is notorious


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