Guy on the bus this morning

Jigsaw wrote: »

Paragraph 1 - Unmitigated nonsense.

Paragraph 2

a) Yes, the bloke was on a bus.
b) We cannot be sure that he was taking a photo.
c) If he was taking a photo, we cannot be sure that the subject of said photo was the girl in question.
d) We don't know if he was going home, or where he was going at all.
e) We don't know if his intention was to have a ****.
f) Even if he was to have a ****, I refer to c) above. We cannot be sure whether or not the stimulus for the **** was going to be an image of the aforementioned girl.
g) Producing pornographic material is not illegal, although producing child pornography is.
h) An image of a teenage girl, approximately 15 years old, fully clothed and in a public place does not constitute pornography.

try it then.

I'm just passing on advice I was given by people who, it would be reasonable to suspect, know the law.

If someone on a bus was taking sneaky photos of my daughter, I'd break his neck.

JaneyMc wrote: »

The person who took the picture could forward it on to like minded people? There are so many different reasons this "harmless" picture could have consequences.

I don't know about you, but my super-powers don't extend to identifying someone by looking at a blurry photo of their knickers?

Will he send em to me???

I think the main issue here is that there's a big difference between things you don't approve of and things that are illegal.

If the guy in question was taking pictures in public and was not attempting to invade someone's privacy, e.g. by attempting to take up-skirt or down-blouse photos, then no crime has been committed. We may speculate as to the motives, but that is irrelevant.

The context of the picture taking is also important here, and whether permission is sought. Despite the experiences of the old lady in a previous post, a woman taking pictures of children is unlikely to be challenged, whereas a man is. An older man is more likely to be challenged, or have unhealthy motives attributed to him than a younger, good looking man etc etc.

Voyeurs and voyeur pics are all over the internet and it's quite likely the guy on the bus had an unhealthy interest in the schoolgirl. But realistically, all you can do is go for the embarrassment factor by staring or threatening to report him.

green123 wrote: »

exactly

cop on everybody

you're missing the HUGE difference here...they're models in adverts, etc. they had their pictures knowingly taken, and were paid.
strangers taking pictures of strangers, without the person's permission is entirely different, esp. when the stranger having their picture taken is underage...

the point is how the person having their picture taken would feel about it, and of course if they're underage, what parents wouldn't be offended?

everyone has their own personal views on their own privacy, and imo, should be allowed to set those boundaries where they see fit (alsong as no one is being harmed or law being broken, of course) ergo, if you don't want your picture taken while you're going about your own business by some pervy stranger, i believe you should be able to do something about it!

if i was there, i would have publicly embarrassed him by calling him up on it and telling him he better cut it out before i report him.
you can't just entertain these guys getting their little kicks from teenage girls, when it happens to you its far from funny or innocent.
i'm 19 now, but i have had my fair share of run-ins with disgusting old pervs while on lunch breaks when i was in school, and if it wasn't for other people interfering, though the man might not have been doing anything actually 'illegal', i would have been far more terrified of the big wide world.
that guy on the street who scared off one particular aggressive old perv, who genuinely scared me to death as he had my arm in a vice grip and would not let go, it became very distressing when no matter how hard i tried to pull away, i couldn't move my arm...well, he reaffirmed my faith in good people out there.
i would definitely advise standing up and doing something if you believe something is wrong or not right. its nice to know you're not alone when these things happen, so thanks joe316 for being a decent enough guy to care!
when your in this situation you can be extremely terrified, embarassed, feel horrifically violated...its not nice being that girl perved on, and how do you think her parents would feel?
i know a lot of what is being said here is in jest, but you must realise it can be offensive to anyone who is not a grown man who doesn't have to worry about what's going through a pervy old man's head as he leers at you, or if one day some pervy man might go even further...

Honey-ec wrote: »

Er, love, there's a bit of a difference between some guy allegedly taking pics of a fully clothed girl on the bus and someone physically grabbing a hold of a teenager in the street...

Only a small bit though.