Guy on the bus this morning

daauneal · 17-09-2008 08:01PM

Casper89 wrote: »

1 its a perfectly valid concern.
what if there was a 75% chance some dodgey type was snapping away at your lovely 15 year old in her school uniform for kicks?

2 i'm not saying that's definitely what happened here, but its a valid concern for people to have. it would be on the minds of many a parent.

1 (that same lovely 15 yr old prob sneaks out every night and has illegal "intercourse" with her 26 yr old stoner boyfriend ! a few bus pics prob pale in comparison to what the bf has put on the web)

2 I'd be more worried about the 15 yr old scumbags at the back of the bus first, then I'd worry about the 40 yr old perv at the front (or as I call him "the bus driver"

Casper89 · 17-09-2008 08:05PM

phantom_lord wrote: »

lol, this thread is way ott

it's not a real issue for you...i.e. you're not a teenage girl being perved over, or a parent of such a teenager.

i don't see what's over the top, i was just defending the OP for being concerned for the girl at all, many seemed to take a more flippant approach so i gave the teenage girl's perspective on the matter...i'll laugh at the jokes too, but it was like no-one cared how the girl might feel? like she was just a sexual object to be leered at anyway?
too bad i can't get my girlfriends to back me up on how unsettling these men can be, leering at you, following you, trying to touch you, and now taking pictures to take home too?
they're not illegal so i'm sorry for being offended!!!
i know what most men think about it, 'ooooh harmless **** fun fun', but surprise surprise, girls don't like being looked at like that, or having their photo taken by some freak, and though it mightn't be the biggest deal in the world, people shouldn't be so blase about it either. though i think a man has to be a father of a young girl, or brother of one to be defensive of them at all...until then, why not take a picture and go wanky wanky, right??!=P

CiaranC · 17-09-2008 08:09PM

What is a teenage girl if not a sexual object to be leered at?

joe316 · 17-09-2008 08:14PM

Casper89 wrote: »

it's not a real issue for you...i.e. you're not a teenage girl being perved over, or a parent of such a teenager.

i don't see what's over the top, i was just defending the OP for being concerned for the girl at all, many seemed to take a more flippant approach so i gave the teenage girl's perspective on the matter...i'll laugh at the jokes too, but it was like no-one cared how the girl might feel? like she was just a sexual object to be leered at anyway?
too bad i can't get my girlfriends to back me up on how unsettling these men can be, leering at you, following you, trying to touch you, and now taking pictures to take home too?
they're not illegal so i'm sorry for being offended!!!
i know what most men think about it, 'ooooh harmless **** fun fun', but surprise surprise, girls don't like being looked at like that, or having their photo taken by some freak, and though it mightn't be the biggest deal in the world, people shouldn't be so blase about it either. though i think a man has to be a father of a young girl, or brother of one to be defensive of them at all...until then, why not take a picture and go wanky wanky, right??!=P

any of your girlfriends hot and single?? And maybe like dressing up in school uniforms??? lol im only joking.

thanks for agreeing with me tho, normally i wouldnt pay attention to these types of things but the dude just made me plain uncomfortable.

daauneal · 17-09-2008 08:15PM

Casper89 ,

please answer my questions, I'm genuinely qurious

Dudess · 17-09-2008 08:18PM

CiaranC wrote: »

What is a teenage girl if not a sexual object to be leered at?

Leering can be done without a camera.

daauneal · 17-09-2008 08:19PM

Dudess wrote: »

Leering can be done without a camera.

but not for as long

Casper89 · 17-09-2008 08:21PM

daauneal wrote: »

@ casper89,
just curious , but what part of some dude taking a more than likely blurry pic of you on a bus would make you feel violated. you wouldn't be hurt or in pain, he hasn't "seen" anything he shouldn't have.

he's taken a picture of you without your permission in a sneaky sleazy fashion...do i care what i'm wearing? did he get some cleavage? like that matters! and its about who's taking the photo that's important here! an obvious pervert is obviously gonna have your skin crawling, and put all kinds of scary thoughts in your head! like your mom hasn't warned you a million times about these guys before you even left your house, and now here he is taking a blurry photo?? i know you don't entirely understand, but being that girl can be very unsettling! and its offensive cos you're not some sex object infront of a camera either! what do i say to guys taking pictures? have some respect! and if you're any way a man, surely you don't need to do that in the first place to get your kicks...ooooo...

And what makes him perverted? is it cause he's taking a picture or because he'd be looking at you. is it not flattering to be someone people find attractive?

funnily enough some freak on a bus leering at me and sneakily taken photos finding me attractive is not flattering...us wimmen just make no sense right?!:p

There's no way of knowing how old the girl was,she could have been anywhere between 14-18 but what I find worse is people are saying on here that its ok if she was 17 .

in alot of countries the legal age is 16. does this make those countries perverted?

yes i've said that we don't know exactly what was going on in this case as only the OP was there, i was just defending him for actually taking his concern seriously!

daauneal wrote: »

1 (that same lovely 15 yr old prob sneaks out every night and has illegal "intercourse" with her 26 yr old stoner boyfriend ! a few bus pics prob pale in comparison to what the bf has put on the web)

2 I'd be more worried about the 15 yr old scumbags at the back of the bus first, then I'd worry about the 40 yr old perv at the front (or as I call him "the bus driver"

amm...your point is that she could have been a slut?

hmm...bout as relevant as my suggesting she may be a virgin on her way to becoming a nun.

Stark · 17-09-2008 08:22PM

Casper89 wrote: »

well if they didn't they should have, i know for a fact to use pics of underage teens you have to ask the parents permission because my teachers always had to ask all the parents before using any pics they took during school.

It's only an issue if you're going to publish the pictures.

pickarooney · 17-09-2008 08:22PM

Was the guy with the phone attractive? Because pretty much everything depends on that.

Casper89 · 17-09-2008 08:24PM

CiaranC wrote: »

What is a teenage girl if not a sexual object to be leered at?

obviously not the girl's perspective on the matter...that is why i have asserted it:p

Casper89 · 17-09-2008 08:25PM

Stark wrote: »

It's only an issue if you're going to publish the pictures.

yes, i was replying to what she said about a newspaper.

Casper89 · 17-09-2008 08:33PM

pickarooney wrote: »

Was the guy with the phone attractive? Because pretty much everything depends on that.

an attractive perv?

still a perv!
AND GIRLS DON'T LIKE PERVS!
and pervy behaviour is not ok! and people should confront their behaviour! thats all i'm saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it amazes me that men actually think pervs don't offend women! what's the first thing you look out for when you first meet a guy? IS HE A PERV!!! big turn-off, believe it or not! real men have manners and honour and respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Turd Ferguson · 17-09-2008 08:38PM

Casper89 wrote: »

an attractive perv?
still a perv!
AND GIRLS DON'T LIKE PERVS!
and pervy behaviour is not ok! and people should confront their behaviour! thats all i'm saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it amazes me that men actually think pervs don't offend women! what's the first thing you look out for when you first meet a guy? IS HE A PERV!!! big turn-off, believe it or not! real men have manners and honour and respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Would I be correct in assuming that you are single my dear?

towel401 · 17-09-2008 08:40PM

Why the hell would someone waste their time taking a pic of a schoolgirl on the bus when you can go to a decent Bittorrent site and fill your hard drive with pr0n of school girls being shagged by dirty old men?

Casper89 · 17-09-2008 08:42PM

no you are not correct, my dear!!!!:P

oh, now i'm really curious what conclusion you had come to...that there are no real men with manners honour and respect?;)

you have no faith in your own kind!!:pac:

edit:and now i can see why...^^

daauneal · 17-09-2008 08:49PM

Casper89 wrote: »

an attractive perv?
still a perv!
AND GIRLS DON'T LIKE PERVS!
and pervy behaviour is not ok! and people should confront their behaviour! thats all i'm saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it amazes me that men actually think pervs don't offend women! what's the first thing you look out for when you first meet a guy? IS HE A PERV!!! big turn-off, believe it or not! real men have manners and honour and respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You cant generalise women like that cause thats how you feel, I know tons of girls/women that would get turned on by that situation. they get off on having loads of guys fantasizing about them.

REAL men aren't always knights in shinning armour with tons of respect for women and loads of honour, your so called real man is just as pervy as the guy you say is a PERV , he's just better at hiding it is all.

I couldnt tell you how many times my girlfriend has thought some friend of ours was all sweet and innocent and "not like most men" then after hanging out with them without her around I found out they were filthy f***ers (sometimes worse than the so called "filthy minded" people we know)

(shes always so dissapointed in them when I tell her how nasty they really are:D)

( casper89 you read my mind, did you come to that conclusion cause you already know its true but dont want to admit it? , trust me when your not around your man is just as nasty as anyone)

Stark · 17-09-2008 08:55PM

daauneal wrote: »

(shes always so dissapointed in them when I tell her how nasty they really are:D)

And then you comfort her because you're not like those other guys.

Casper89 · 17-09-2008 09:01PM

daauneal wrote: »

You cant generalise women like that cause thats how you feel, I know tons of girls/women that would get turned on by that situation. they get off on having loads of guys fantasizing about them.

REAL men aren't always knights in shinning armour with tons of respect for women and loads of honour, your so called real man is just as pervy as the guy you say is a PERV , he's just better at hiding it is all.

I couldnt tell you how many times my girlfriend has thought some friend of ours was all sweet and innocent and "not like most men" then after hanging out with them without her around I found out they were filthy f***ers (sometimes worse than the so called "filthy minded" people we know)

(shes always so dissapointed in them when I tell her how nasty they really are:D)

huh...*sigh*
see...this is where i think most men can't make the distinction between women asserting our own sexuality, and perving men.
whereas a girl might like the thought of the cute smiling guy glancing at her in cafe, the freaky sleazebag trying to hide behind a newspaper snapping pics and practically drooling all over you is entirely different. the guy taking the pic comes across as a sexual threat, whereas the guy in the cafe is flirting! from a young age in is indoctrinated into us to be disgusted by old mister pervy, for our safety. unless you're a delusional slut(no i cannot speak for them:p), you feel differently about these two situations, that's what i'm trying to explain...

but see i've just had an epiphany! there is no point giving the female perspective here cos its so inherently male in these forums!:P

MooseJam · 17-09-2008 09:03PM

the guy obviously needs to be tracked down and executed

titan18 · 17-09-2008 09:05PM

Of course theres girls who get turned on by some perv looking at them.I'd imagine pornstars are like that along with a whole lot of people.

Dudess · 17-09-2008 09:06PM

E.g. strippers.

MooseJam · 17-09-2008 09:09PM

it must be like 10% of woman work it the porn business or related

daauneal · 17-09-2008 09:12PM

Casper89 wrote: »

huh...*sigh*
see...this is where i think most men can't make the distinction between women asserting our own sexuality, and perving men.
whereas a girl might like the thought of the cute smiling guy glancing at her in cafe, the freaky sleazebag trying to hide behind a newspaper snapping pics and practically drooling all over you is entirely different. the guy taking the pic comes across as a sexual threat, whereas the guy in the cafe is flirting! from a young age in is indoctrinated into us to be disgusted by old mister pervy, for our safety. unless you're a delusional slut(no i cannot speak for them:p), you feel differently about these two situations, that's what i'm trying to explain...

but see i've just had an epiphany! there is no point giving the female perspective here cos its so inherently male in these forums!:P

Your speaking for all women again! and you done what I knew you'd do by calling any other woman a slut for not feeling how you do! please speak on your own behalf and not on the behalf of ALL women everywhere.

I never mentioned a cafe of any kind or a cute guy. and you failed to address the subject of your boyfriend being a giant perv . or the fact that men act differently around women than they do around other guys.

a small note for you: women being sexual doesnt make them sluts, your being sexist in that remark as if it was a guy you wouldnt have the same distain for his sexual prowess as you seem to for the women that "get some regularly"

daauneal · 17-09-2008 09:17PM

titan18 wrote: »

Of course theres girls who get turned on by some perv looking at them.I'd imagine pornstars are like that along with a whole lot of people.

sarcasim?

most pornstars just see it as a job and nothing else , so no they wouldnt get there rocks off, but im saying some people I know do. such as people that are into dogging/swinging/orgy's/glory holes and other such things.

daauneal · 17-09-2008 09:20PM

Stark wrote: »

And then you comfort her because you're not like those other guys.

Im just like those other guys ( just as filthy as the rest), and she knows that. I dont have to pretend im someone im not to get a girlfriend.

This is all getting very off topic , the point is the guy prob wasn't even taking a picture of the girl. and if he did, its not like he harmed her in any way or put her in danger. it seems unlikely that he was taking a blurry bad quality pic to put in the spank bank for later use anyway, considering all the schoolgirls that are all to willing to strip on webcams just for some attention.

Casper89 · 17-09-2008 09:35PM

daauneal wrote: »

Your speaking for all women again! and you done what I knew you'd do by calling any other woman a slut for not feeling how you do! please speak on your own behalf and not on the behalf of ALL women everywhere.

I never mentioned a cafe of any kind or a cute guy. and you failed to address the subject of your boyfriend being a giant perv . or the fact that men act differently around women than they do around other guys.

a small note for you: women being sexual doesnt make them sluts, your being sexist in that remark as if it was a guy you wouldnt have the same distain for his sexual prowess as you seem to for the women that "get some regularly"

and you're doing exactly what i knew you would do when you said all men are the same!
are you telling me i shouldn't expect a man to honour and respect me?:p

ok, now to address the rest...
i'm speaking for every woman and girl i know when i say we are unsettled and offended by sleazy perving men.
if a woman cannot tell the difference between a nice guy flirting, and a weird guy perving, she has problems--why i said delusional.
now, as for the slut? she'll sleep with anyone---why she doesn't mind pervy men, any men really, its why she's a slut! do you deny they exist?!
(pornstars get freaked out by pervs when they met them in person btw!)

and yes i mentioned the cafe and the cute guy to explain what women are turned on by, as opposed to pervs!

and as for my boyfriend...you can tell me he doesn't, but he does respect me;) besides, his mother has had her fair share of horrible boyfriends over the years, and he is especially sensitive about respect for women because of that i suspect...

we all know guys are laddish with the lads, and some sexist jokes are just compulsory, my own brother just told me not 5 mins ago to get off the computer and back in the kitchen cos he's on X-Box Live with his mates! but i know for a fact my brother respects women, and jokes aside, he would defend a woman from a sleazy guy! he was the perfect gentleman about his ex-girlfriend--not just to her face btw!!--and i was very proud!:D and i know he's not the only one! its not about what you say in jest, but your actions, and how you treat women.
i know there are guys who respect women, though they may not be posting here!:P
just take the OP, he must have respected that girl when he felt uncomfortable about what he thought that guy was doing, otherwise, he'd have just laughed it off, or hooked up via bluetooth:rolleyes:

Dudess · 17-09-2008 09:36PM

daauneal wrote: »

sarcasim?

most pornstars just see it as a job and nothing else , so no they wouldnt get there rocks off, but im saying some people I know do. such as people that are into dogging/swinging/orgy's/glory holes and other such things.

I bet a lot of strippers/lapdancers get turned on by being leered at by dirty old men - the sense of power maybe...

Casper89 · 17-09-2008 09:48PM

daauneal wrote: »

This is all getting very off topic , the point is the guy prob wasn't even taking a picture of the girl. and if he did, its not like he harmed her in any way or put her in danger. it seems unlikely that he was taking a blurry bad quality pic to put in the spank bank for later use anyway, considering all the schoolgirls that are all to willing to strip on webcams just for some attention.

aggghhh...no one is saying he harmed her or put her in danger...its just wrong!

and the OP is a bigger man for being concerned about what that guy might have been doing!
it shows respect on his side, that he wouldn't do that.
no-one has argued whether that's exactly what happened or not, it was just a valid concern.
i mean, if its an ok thing to do, why was the guy trying to hide it in the first place? the second he knew someone was watching he stopped!! can you believe, that this is generally a sign of someone doing something they shouldn't be?! something to be ashamed of, perhaps?

MooseJam · 17-09-2008 09:49PM

well if someone was taking pictures of my teenage daughter I'd be chuffed

Guy on the bus this morning

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