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Legality of markings in private car parks

  • 22-09-2008 08:26PM
    #1
    mikemac
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    If I drove my car into a local town and shamelessly took a disabled spot I'd expect to be fined.
    Or if I drove down a one-way street and crashed it'd be my fault. And If I walk across a zebra pedestrian, you'd better believe I have right of way over approaching cars.
    The council put in these roads signs and markings and all are in the rules of the road and road traffic legislation.

    Does this apply in private car parks? Can I shamelessly park in the disabled space or even park lengthways across 2-3 disabled spaces? :eek:
    And if a busybody passerby or the shopping centre security guard tell me to cop myself on and park properly, can I refuse? Like if Tesco mark their carpark is it a guideline or do they have legal standing.
    Most (all?) shopping centre carparks have oneway lanes. But if I drove the wrong way down a lane and ended up crashing will the insurance company disregard the oneway arrows because Tesco or Supervalue don't determine one-way lanes? It wouldn't have any relevance?

    Just interested to know.


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  • #2
    Johnny Utah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Johnny Utah


    micmclo wrote: »
    If I drove my car into a local town and shamelessly took a disabled spot I'd expect to be fined.
    Or if I drove down a one-way street and crashed it'd be my fault. And If I walk across a zebra pedestrian, you'd better believe I have right of way over approaching cars.
    The council put in these roads signs and markings and all are in the rules of the road and road traffic legislation.
    micmclo wrote: »
    Does this apply in private car parks?
    No.

    micmclo wrote: »
    Can I shamelessly park in the disabled space or even park lengthways across 2-3 disabled spaces? :eek:
    Yes

    micmclo wrote: »
    And if a busybody passerby or the shopping centre security guard tell me to cop myself on and park properly, can I refuse? Like if Tesco mark their carpark is it a guideline or do they have legal standing.

    Busybody- has no power whatsoever in that situation.
    However, the burly security guard could probably tell you to 'get the **** out of the car-park' as Tesco Ltd own the car-park, much the same as Tesco reserve the right to refuse admission to the shop to suspected shioplifters.

    micmclo wrote: »
    Most (all?) shopping centre carparks have oneway lanes. But if I drove the wrong way down a lane and ended up crashing will the insurance company disregard the oneway arrows because Tesco or Supervalue don't determine one-way lanes? It wouldn't have any relevance?

    Just interested to know.

    Not sure; although insurance companies are gangsters so I wouldn't put anything past them!


  • #3
    jhegarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    I presume you could still be open to a charge of dangerous/careless driving for going the wrong way down tesco's one way system....


  • #4
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Does this apply in private car parks? Can I shamelessly park in the disabled space or even park lengthways across 2-3 disabled spaces?
    Yes, you can. But the shop can refuse you permission to use their carpark in future and tell you to remove your vehicle.
    Most (all?) shopping centre carparks have oneway lanes. But if I drove the wrong way down a lane and ended up crashing will the insurance company disregard the oneway arrows because Tesco or Supervalue don't determine one-way lanes? It wouldn't have any relevance?
    A car park is still regarded as a public place. So it could be determined that by failing to drive within the agreed rules of the "public place", you have some liability. It would depend on the nature of the crash though. If someone pulled into the one-way lane without looking in the "wrong" direction, they would still have some liability for failing to ensure that their way was clear, even though you were going the wrong way.


  • #5
    Maximilian
    Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    If you had a crash going down the wrong lane in a SC, I think it would go some way to proving you were negligent.


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