So where do we go from here?

Piste · 17-10-2008 05:00PM #1

There are a load of complainey threads on AH at the moment, and indeed most of the country seems to be in whine-mode- as they have every right to be, it seems everyone feels hard-done by lately.

So along with all these complaints and Shoulda Woulda Couldas, does anyone have any concrete ideas about where to go now? Obviously it's time for us to take action as a nation and not just whinge on internet forums, so how do we pull ourselves out of the rut we are in now?

Gummy Panda · 17-10-2008 05:05PM

carpet bomb the aran islands for fun maybe?

Dinter · 17-10-2008 05:08PM

We've gotten far too secular.

We need to go back to nature by burning a giant, politician filled, wickerman on Leinster House lawn.

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Biggins · 17-10-2008 05:13PM

Don't know about anyone but I'm starting my own political party and protest group!
I've had enough.

RonMexico · 17-10-2008 05:16PM

They've taken in the roads again Father.

Cuddlesworth · 17-10-2008 05:18PM

Piste wrote: »

Obviously it's time for us to take action as a nation and not just whinge on internet forums, so how do we pull ourselves out of the rut we are in now?

Pub?

Piste · 17-10-2008 05:21PM

Can't afford

:(:(

Cuddlesworth · 17-10-2008 05:23PM

Clearly we have problem then!

thelordofcheese · 17-10-2008 05:26PM

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Pub?

Grand, mines a guinness.

Prof.Badass · 17-10-2008 05:26PM

the obvious solution is to start trying to balance out the system by creating a liberal party.

1st of all that's never going to happen.

2nd of all if it did, it would end up full of all sorts of hardcore nutjobs and subsequently never get voted in. Hopefully if we apply enough pressure one of the main parties will go liberal.

I don't mean p.d's pretending to be liberal for more votes, i'm talking about a party that actually understands the need to limit the power of the government in order to protect the people from oppression.

Doc · 17-10-2008 05:29PM

I say we blame the Jews noting bad ever came of doing that.

brianthebard · 17-10-2008 05:29PM

vinylmesh wrote: »

the obvious solution is to start trying to balance out the system by creating a liberal party.

1st of all that's never going to happen.

2nd of all if it did, it would end up full of all sorts of hardcore nutjobs and subsequently never get voted in. Hopefully if we apply enough pressure one of the main parties will go liberal.

I don't mean p.d's pretending to be liberal for more votes, i'm talking about a party that actually understands the need to limit the power of the government in order to protect the people from oppression.

1st, Lolz how is that the "obvious solution"?

2nd, why a liberal party? Liberal in what sense, there are dozens of definitions.

3rd, government oppression is not how the economy went into recession.

Biggins · 17-10-2008 05:31PM

vinylmesh wrote: »

the obvious solution is to start trying to balance out the system by creating a liberal party.

1st of all that's never going to happen.

2nd of all if it did, it would end up full of all sorts of hardcore nutjobs and subsequently never get voted in. Hopefully if we apply enough pressure one of the main parties will go liberal.

I don't mean p.d's pretending to be liberal for more votes, i'm talking about a party that actually understands the need to limit the power of the government in order to protect the people from oppression.

Well if you agree with me on most points your quite welcome to join me!

I believe the following:

1. We have become far too soft on offenders.
2. Chain gangs might be introduced for repeat offenders.
3. A prison should be built that is strictly a prison - not a holiday camp.
4. Life sentences should mean that - LIFE!!!
5. Anyone that kills a cop - is executed.
6. Anyone that seriously injures a cop/nurse/paramedic/fire-person gets life.
7. Anyone with a knife/gun/weapon get a minimum 5 years, NO parole.
8. Anyone with an illegal weapon gets minimum 5 years prison, NO parole.
9. A three strikes system. On third strike (breaking the law), your in for LIFE!
10. Rape prisoners are placed in normal confinement with other prisoners. NO special treatments. NO segregation from others and kept in their own sections.
11. We adopt a points system like America, Australia and Canada to control the influx of foreign nations.
12 A cut back on the "Big Brother" privacy powers that are allow our privacy to be watered down.
13. The fear of breaking the law has to has to be put back into criminals.
14. Our T.D.s are paid to much (including "perks") and their work should be paid related to their productivity!

tech77 · 17-10-2008 05:32PM

Piste wrote: »

There are a load of complainey threads on AH at the moment, and indeed most of the country seems to be in whine-mode- as they have every right to be, it seems everyone feels hard-done by lately.

So along with all these complaints and Shoulda Woulda Couldas, does anyone have any concrete ideas about where to go now? Obviously it's time for us to take action as a nation and not just whinge on internet forums, so how do we pull ourselves out of the rut we are in now?

^Is that you Brian.
Christ things ARE bad.

Prof.Badass · 17-10-2008 05:37PM

brianthebard wrote: »

1st, Lolz how is that the "obvious solution"?

2nd, why a liberal party? Liberal in what sense, there are dozens of definitions.

3rd, government oppression is not how the economy went into recession.

not the solution, but the obvious way forward (there's rarely a quick fix).
Right now, there's a huge minority of people with liberal beliefs but no party that represents them. With no party representing them these people have no voice and have grown dissillusioned with irish politics, making it easier for current parties to do stuff they shouldn't get away with. do you not agree that a liberal party would balance out our politics?

liberal as in being socially permissive (i.e 24 hour pubs ect). Our economy was hit so bad because we let house prices get way too high. This is more to do with those in charge being selfish/idiots rather than a set of idealogical beliefs.

ninebeanrows · 17-10-2008 05:39PM

Whats gonna happen is eastern europe will fall back under soviet control and there will be a new cold war within the next 5 years

Iceland is port 1 for the Russian advance :pac:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b24ba7fc-9bb0-11dd-ae76-000077b07658.html

thelordofcheese · 17-10-2008 05:48PM

Biggins wrote: »

Well if you agree with me on most points your quite welcome to join me!

I believe the following:

1. We have become far too soft on offenders.
2. Chain gangs might be introduced for repeat offenders.
3. A prison should be built that is strictly a prison - not a holiday camp.
4. Life sentences should mean that - LIFE!!!
5. Anyone that kills a cop - is executed.
6. Anyone that seriously injures a cop/nurse/paramedic/fire-person gets life.
7. Anyone with a knife/gun/weapon get a minimum 5 years, NO parole.
8. Anyone with an illegal weapon gets minimum 5 years prison, NO parole.
9. A three strikes system. On third strike (breaking the law), your in for LIFE!
10. Rape prisoners are placed in normal confinement with other prisoners. NO special treatments. NO segregation from others and kept in their own sections.
11. We adopt a points system like America, Australia and Canada to control the influx of foreign nations.
12 A cut back on the "Big Brother" privacy powers that are allow our privacy to be watered down.
13. The fear of breaking the law has to has to be put back into criminals.
14. Our T.D.s are paid to much (including "perks") and their work should be paid related to their productivity!

Your manifesto is terrible, poorly thought out, vague, borderline incompetent, and designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator by offering unrealistic 'quick fixes' to deep rooted problems.

Enjoy your next ten years in power.

phasers · 17-10-2008 05:49PM

Let's ask the English to take us back

Cuddlesworth · 17-10-2008 05:50PM

Mandatory beatings for all.

So where do we go from here?

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