Protests over Gaza deaths at 5PM Today (Monday) outside Israeli Embassy..

Run_to_da_hills · 29-12-2008 02:35PM #1

THE brutal, criminal attack by the Israelis on the desperate people of Gaza has its roots in the total Israeli blockade of Gaza, denying the people basic needs such as food, fuel and medicine. The Israelis continue to attack this highly populated nation indiscriminately just like shooting fish in a barrel.

A demonstration outside the Israeli embassy in Dublin is planned for 5pm today held by the Irish Palestine Solidarity Campaign.

http://www.herald.ie/world-news/irish-protests-mount-over-gaza-deaths-1587281.html

mike65 · 29-12-2008 02:36PM

I'll be there with my Star Of David flag.

Oswald Osbourne · 29-12-2008 02:40PM

I'll be there with my Seinfeld DVDs!

R0ot · 29-12-2008 02:42PM

I for one welcome our jewish overlords :pac:

amjon · 29-12-2008 02:43PM

Is there going to be a similar protest against Hamas/Palestinians for their indiscriminate use of missiles against the Israeli people?

Oswald Osbourne · 29-12-2008 02:44PM

We'd need there to be a palastinian embassy first

Nodin · 29-12-2008 02:44PM

R0ot wrote: »

I for one welcome our jewish overlords :pac:

Rubbish.

It's clearly the Japanese behind the whole thing. Those tv's are everywhere...listening...watching.....

Nodin · 29-12-2008 02:45PM

amjon wrote: »

Is there going to be a similar protest against Hamas/Palestinians for their indiscriminate use of missiles against the Israeli people?

...when they do a similar amount of damage. I should be dead by then but my descendants descendants will be obliged to turn up.

Oswald Osbourne · 29-12-2008 02:46PM

Jews Japanese? Both words begin with 'J'! Coincidence?

R0ot · 29-12-2008 02:52PM

Oswald Osbourne wrote: »

Jews Japanese? Both words begin with 'J'! Coincidence?

more like Joincidence, amirite? :pac:

Neamhshuntasach · 29-12-2008 03:00PM

amjon wrote: »

Is there going to be a similar protest against Hamas/Palestinians for their indiscriminate use of missiles against the Israeli LAND?

Fixed that for ya since about 95% of their rockets land in unpopulated fields.

mike65 · 29-12-2008 03:02PM

So why bother firing them?

Run_to_da_hills · 29-12-2008 03:13PM

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Fixed that for ya since about 95% of their rockets land in unpopulated fields.

Fixed that again for ya since about 95% of their fireworks land in unpopulated fields.

Terry · 29-12-2008 03:22PM

5% still hit.

Neamhshuntasach · 29-12-2008 03:25PM

mike65 wrote: »

So why bother firing them?

The sense of doing something. Oppression is a terrible thing. It causes you to do terrible and often disparate things.

The_Minister · 29-12-2008 03:28PM

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

5% still hit.

It's amazing how people ignore that.

But, I still support the Palistinians tbh.

VO · 29-12-2008 03:31PM

Hamas knew exactly what they were doing when they refused to enter into another ceasefire and recommenced firing rockets into Israeli territory. One thing that is very apparant over the past 40 years is if you screw with Israel they will retaliate with force. I don't agree with civilians being targetted but then Hamas have been targetting civilians in their rocket attacks.

Riamfada · 29-12-2008 03:35PM

Im a bit confused and yes I know very little about this. So .... Hamas start firing hundreds of rockets into Israeli territory with 5% killing people and 95%damaging innocent fields. Israel retaliates by attacking tunnels which are used for importing arms and supporting. So we protest at the Israeli embassy?

MagicMarker · 29-12-2008 03:36PM

I'm sure those in the Israeli embassy will give a fúck that a bunch of Irish tossers have decided to congregate outside their front door.

Neamhshuntasach · 29-12-2008 03:38PM

The_Minister wrote: »

It's amazing how people ignore that.

But, I still support the Palistinians tbh.

It's not that it's ignored. It's when the other side have a 95% hit record that it becomes a little less significant in comparison with the death and destruction that the IDF cause.

People arguing can go back and forth on that issue all year long and it will never resolve anything. It's gonna be an opinion or mindset. And it's the same thing with the Israeli's, heavy handed beyond necessary means every time a palestinian rocket is fired into Israel, which is not just for the craic by the way. It's usually in response to something that does not make it onto television or papers over here. If that is going to be the response every time that happens, the situation will never end. Unless they continue to bomb from the air with no regard to innocent civilians and at some stage in the future every last Palestinian has been killed or fled to other countries. Well the fleeing part would only happen if they were allowed leave the imprisoned cities they live in.

Fanny Cradock · 29-12-2008 03:45PM

The_Minister wrote: »

It's amazing how people ignore that.

But, I still support the Palistinians tbh.

It's why people buy Special K (the cereal, that is).

however, back to the debate at had, the Israelis are generally seen to be disproportionate in their response. The casualty figures seemingly back this up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-Palestinian_conflict#Casualties

The Mighty Ken · 29-12-2008 03:45PM

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

...every time a palestinian rocket is fired into Israel, which is not just for the craic by the way. It's usually in response to something that does not make it onto television or papers over here.

Can you provide any evidence for this whatsoever? How do you know that the likes of Hamas or Hezbollah aren't just antagonising the Israelis unprovoked?

DemocAnarchis · 29-12-2008 04:26PM

I think the contrast between this conflict and the Russia-Georgia situation is quite interesting. In both cases the smaller state was seen as the aggressor, but while Russia received widespread condemnation for disproportionate use of force, here the jury seems to be siding with Israel. Not identical situations by any stretch of the imagination of course, but there are definately similarities.

galwayrush · 29-12-2008 04:31PM

I'm sure when the terrorists stop attacking Israeli targets and people FIRST, the Israelies will stop firing back.

The Mighty Ken · 29-12-2008 04:32PM

I've never really understood this proportionate response argument. If I'm in a nightclub and I walk over to a guy twice my size and start poking him in the eyes and the turns around and hospitalises me... you know what? I asked for and deserve it!

I'm still interested in seeing a little proof of whether Hamas were provoked into firing 450 rockets into Israel. I was under the impression that they were doing it after Israeli troops had actually pulled out of The Strip, just to add insult to injury.

Frankie Lee · 29-12-2008 04:32PM

DemocAnarchis wrote: »

I think the contrast between this conflict and the Russia-Georgia situation is quite interesting. In both cases the smaller state was seen as the aggressor, but while Russia received widespread condemnation for disproportionate use of force, here the jury seems to be siding with Israel. Not identical situations by any stretch of the imagination of course, but there are definately similarities.

Big difference Georgia is a reasonably sized country with the supposed support of the worlds superpower behind it and thought they would have a chance to flex their muscles but failed miserably.

Here another reasonably sized country with the absolute support of the worlds main superpower behind it are accelerating their program of ethnic cleansing.

Still the similarity is that a lot of people will agree that the side with the backing of the worlds main superpower are in the right.

Guy:Incognito · 29-12-2008 04:37PM

Nodin wrote: »

...when they do a similar amount of damage.

So are we just protesting because Isreal are killing more pepole than the Palestinians?

If they promise to kill a few less is that ok?

allabouteve · 29-12-2008 04:37PM

The_Minister wrote: »

It's amazing how people ignore that.

But, I still support the Palistinians tbh.

Thats nice and all, but remember that if they had the arms, 95% of Palistinians believe that all non-Muslims should be anilhated as infidels, and that western countries would be the first port of call for said arms.

You can support them all you like, but most of them believe we deserve death.

Frankie Lee · 29-12-2008 04:44PM

allabouteve wrote: »

Thats nice and all, but remember that if they had the arms, 95% of Palistinians believe that all non-Muslims should be anilhated as infidels, and that western countries would be the first port of call for said arms.

You can support them all you like, but most of them believe we deserve death.

Sources please?

The Mighty Ken · 29-12-2008 04:47PM

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Sources please?

Read this.

pipsqueak · 29-12-2008 04:50PM

The Mighty Ken wrote: »

I've never really understood this proportionate response argument. If I'm in a nightclub and I walk over to a guy twice my size and start poking him in the eyes and the turns around and hospitalises me... you know what? I asked for and deserve it!

I'm still interested in seeing a little proof of whether Hamas were provoked into firing 450 rockets into Israel. I was under the impression that they were doing it after Israeli troops had actually pulled out of The Strip, just to add insult to injury.

good point!

Protests over Gaza deaths at 5PM Today (Monday) outside Israeli Embassy..

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