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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Is there anything worse than retarded Liverpool fans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Reganio 2


    Yeah, retarded Arsenal fans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭SWAR


    cmcsoft wrote: »
    At the end of the day much and all as I hate to say it we still have too many average players - Benayoun, Lucas, Arbeloa, Dossena, Ngog. Simply not going to cut it.

    I understand that Rafa wants to play defensively but how many games should Liverpool have closed out this year but couldn't. That's the difference

    I completely agree; however I would not include Arbeloa in that list, but I would include Kuyt, he has nothing going forward what so ever...NOT a winger and NOT a striker. Feckin baffles me how some peoploe on this forum thinks he's having a good season. Not one of those players would get in Villa's team, never mind Chelsea, Man Yoo or Arsenal.

    Maybe this is just a harsh reaction from what I watched last night, but I can't ever see us winning the league under Rafa. Last night was a prime example of "we've scored one and now we have no interest in getting a second...go on try and equalise!", which happens time and time again. Now sometimes we get away with a nervy 1-0 or 2-1 win but you can't keep doing that. I'm not sure if people realise how good a chance we HAD this year to actually win the league:

    United: Poor start as usual and not playing as well as other years;
    Chelsea: Injury to their key midfielder imo (Essien), reported un-rest in the camp and really struggling of late;
    Arsenal: HUGE injury list to key players and a dodgy defence.

    But we fcuked it up with all those draws against teams you need to be beating, especially at home, if you want to win the league. IMO this is due to what was mentioned above with regard to some of the sh1t that puts on a red jersey these day and Rafa's defensive mentality and baffling team selections at times.

    Rant over.

    C'mon, bring on the abuse!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,010 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    p.pete wrote: »
    Keane was doing nothing, on comes benny to run round like a headless chicken and give away free kicks, I'd rather see nothing. Lucas for Torres, what the ff*ck, no front man and inviting the already expected last few minutes of pressure. I think Rafa may need some better people around him.

    Spot on about Lucas for Torres. An imbecile of a decision to invite pressure. If Torres was tired, then Babel should have been on up top. A player who can relieve pressure rather than invite it. And if Rafa makes the decision to be afraid of Everton, why Useless-Lucas and not Mascherano???

    I don't blame Yossi though. I blame Benitez for playing him at right back for the last 10 minutes. Crazy.

    As for Benitez needing some better people around him. Absolutely. But would he listen to them? I doubt it very much.

    Two points lost by Benitez IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Highsider


    In Rafa we trust.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,239 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I'm not trying to start it up again or anything, but I've been saying that Benitez is too defensive so often, but after last night I just don't know what to make of the guy.

    He plays the 4-2-3-1 against Stoke where you should imo have two up front and batter the ball in there from all angles. And he goes with two up top against Everton who are on a great run and are a team you have to respect as one of the better teams in the PL. I know they are the enemy and all for you guys but fair is fair, they have done well over the last couple of years.

    But basically my point is that his team selection seems strange too often. Its like he plays the system that you don't expect each game. Now for me Liverpool have been great against the better teams using that 4-2-3-1 but rubbish against the poorer teams when using it.

    The other thing though is the result last night. There is two things I have to say about that.
    Firstly, take this result on its own and you won't hear United, Chelsea, Arsenal or Villa crying over a draw with Everton. I know its a little bit more to the Pool fans to get the result here but its still not a bad result in League terms for sides with aspirations to win the PL.

    Secondly something very rare happened last night, with the exception of the Athletico results, teams don't normally come back and draw with Liverpool, its usually that the game is scoreless or the other team scores first if its going to be a draw, Liverpool rarely relinquish a lead.

    Its the other results against the weaker teams that could end up costing Liverpool at the end of the season. Its still not too late though, the League has a long way to go, and if they sort out the bad results against the weaker teams they are right in the picture. I wouldn't worry about the big games, thats where Benitez seems to shine with team selection, preparation, tactics etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭Dubliner28


    The other thing though is the result last night. There is two things I have to say about that.
    Firstly, take this result on its own and you won't hear United, Chelsea, Arsenal or Villa crying over a draw with Everton. I know its a little bit more to the Pool fans to get the result here but its still not a bad result in League terms for sides with aspirations to win the PL.

    Disagree there,
    1-0 up in a big game,chance to go top of league, you dont take of your two strikers IMO.
    3 mins left when the Blues scored, Should have seen the game out.
    2 points dropped rather than 1 gained


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Firstly, take this result on its own and you won't hear United, Chelsea, Arsenal or Villa crying over a draw with Everton. I know its a little bit more to the Pool fans to get the result here but its still not a bad result in League terms for sides with aspirations to win the PL.

    Yeah, I'm disappointed with the result last night, seeing as it was a late goal. But, Everton are on a decent run of late.
    It seems a worse result as the Stoke draw is fresh in the mind, and maybe the Hull draw to some extent too.
    Liverpool are level on points with United with a game extra played, I'm quite content with that at this stage of the season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Completely Predictable, the whole team are playing sh:te for the last few games, they're playing like they are depressed or something. Only for one player are we in anyway decent this season, absolute joke!

    I dont care but to me we played better a couple of years ago with half wit players like Harry Kewel and Djimi Traore on the team. We miss the rock solid performances of Stephan Finnan week in week out.. his crosses were fantasic and selling him regardless of injury was a big mistake. Also during the cruch games Luis Garcia what donkey replaced him.

    Call it living in the past or whatever but we have gained nothing over the top 3 this season and its down to pure bad luck on the other teams that we are in the top position, where it should be business as usual with Liverpool fighting for 4th.

    I seriously hope things improve for the real madrid game as its costing me a fortune to go over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    When Rafa plays 4-2-3-1 at home, he gets stick for being too defensive. He plays two up front, he still gets stick for changing formation.

    If you want to blame anyone for our form, blame Setanta. Everytime our games are shown on the channel, we draw. They are costing us the title!!!

    Viva Rafa!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭shakespeare


    moving onward to whats coming up...

    Liverpools next 3 games...

    away to wigan
    home to chelsea
    away to portsmouth

    Utds next 3 games...

    away to West brom
    home to Everton
    away to west ham.

    My take on it....
    Utd: Win at west brom quite comfortably, a home win at everton and perhaps west ham being the sticky one...a win at upton park would be fantastic considering our recent record there so id be ok with a draw.

    Pool:problems at the JJB i reckon - draw, a g-eed up chelsea out for revenge-bore draw or loss, and an evening kick off at fratton park? draw maybe???

    point being - on paper...its gonna get worse before it gets better for liverpool in my humble opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭SWAR


    monkey9 wrote: »
    When Rafa plays 4-2-3-1 at home, he gets stick for being too defensive. He plays two up front, he still gets stick for changing formation.

    If you want to blame anyone for our form, blame Setanta. Everytime our games are shown on the channel, we draw. They are costing us the title!!!

    Viva Rafa!!!

    I think it's more the fact that he plays 4-2-3-1 against some of the lesser teams that we should be beating, where you would expect 4-4-2 and a more attacking approach. Then against Everton last night, who are the best team we've played at home (league position) since Man Utd, when you know what type of game you are gonna get and therefore he couldn't be criticised for picking a 4-2-3-1 formation as this works well against the better teams, but no it's a 4-4-2...it's baffling at times.

    I must say I'm beginning to loose faith in him, but this could just be because I'm still raging about last night, coupled with the dozens of e-mails I received today from all those smug Utd bastards I call my maits!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,173 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    4-4-2 against a team that started with no traditional striker is perfectly acceptable to be honest.

    Keane did zero last night, it is actually the worst I have seen him. There were 4 or 5 others aswell who didn't put in a shift.

    Where Rafa got it wrong was trying to see out the match with no strikers, a very dangerous game to play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭SWAR


    moving onward to whats coming up...

    Liverpools next 3 games...

    away to wigan
    home to chelsea
    away to portsmouth

    Utds next 3 games...

    away to West brom
    home to Everton
    away to west ham.

    My take on it....
    Utd: Win at west brom quite comfortably, a home win at everton and perhaps west ham being the sticky one...a win at upton park would be fantastic considering our recent record there so id be ok with a draw.

    Pool:problems at the JJB i reckon - draw, a g-eed up chelsea out for revenge-bore draw or loss, and an evening kick off at fratton park? draw maybe???

    point being - on paper...its gonna get worse before it gets better for liverpool in my humble opinion.

    Well thank you very much for your well thought out and unbaised opinion.

    I don't think Wigan will be as tough as you make it out to be as it looks like Palacios will be gone by the time we play them, probably there best player this season. As for Chelsea, a "g-eed up Chelsea" is one thing but when things aren't right it's hard to smooth over the cracks as we saw against united...after all you'd of thought they would of been g-eed up for that game but it didn't look like it. Pompey away should be ok I'd imagine...afterall we're better away this year than at home don't forget.

    West Brom have hit a bit of form recently and seem to be finding the back of the net, I reckon that a 2-0 win for the Baggies, Everton at home...ah United might get a draw there with a Ronaldo penalty in the last few minutes (from a dive of course) and as for West Ham, well they have been a bogey team for ye of late so a definite 3 points for the hammers with Carlton Cole continuing his good form...probably 3-1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭SWAR


    Boggles wrote: »
    4-4-2 against a team that started with no traditional striker is perfectly acceptable to be honest.

    Keane did zero last night, it is actually the worst I have seen him. There were 4 or 5 others aswell who didn't put in a shift.

    Where Rafa got it wrong was trying to see out the match with no strikers, a very dangerous game to play.

    I can't deny that Keane was awful, as was Kuyt and a few others is right (can't see Keane at Liverpool next year)...but I have to disagree with you regarding the formation to be honest. If you are playing against a team without a traditional striker, then that will more than likely lead to a 5 man (maybe even 6 man at times) midfield, so in order to combat that we MAY have been better with 4-2-3-1. Anyway hindsight being 20:20 vision and all that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,173 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    SWAR wrote: »
    I can't deny that Keane was awful, as was Kuyt and a few others is right (can't see Keane at Liverpool next year)...but I have to disagree with you regarding the formation to be honest. If you are playing against a team without a traditional striker, then that will more than likely lead to a 5 man (maybe even 6 man at times) midfield, so in order to combat that we MAY have been better with 4-2-3-1. Anyway hindsight being 20:20 vision and all that!

    At times yes, they could be facing a 5 man midfield. But Liverpool being the team at home you would have thought they would spend the majority of the game attacking, utilising the extra man up front to break down a packed midfield and defense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭shakespeare


    touchy touchy!

    thats why i dont post on here...too many defensive people.

    It doesnt need to be well thought out and it certainly isnt bias smart arse...

    look at the two sets of fixtures, on paper, which fixtures look more difficult.
    any footie fan on here will tell you...uniteds fixtures look easier and most fans
    would take uniteds over liverpools

    so my point is...these are very important fixtures considering the title race...and being so early in january...i find that unusual as the tension usually starts a bit later in the season...
    so before you get sarky cause youre a ickle bit moany after another slip up at home...try put youre own bias aside...

    in my opinion...as i stated...liverpool have some tought fixtures ahead...while their closet rivals perhaps have an easier run of it.......discuss...

    PS: ill coming looking for ya after the chelsea game considering youre smarmy gee-d up comment...chelseas form away, liverpools at home...pressure building etc. funny feeling you'll eat your words...
    SWAR wrote: »
    Well thank you very much for your well thought out and unbaised opinion.

    I don't think Wigan will be as tough as you make it out to be as it looks like Palacios will be gone by the time we play them, probably there best player this season. As for Chelsea, a "g-eed up Chelsea" is one thing but when things aren't right it's hard to smooth over the cracks as we saw against united...after all you'd of thought they would of been g-eed up for that game but it didn't look like it. Pompey away should be ok I'd imagine...afterall we're better away this year than at home don't forget.

    West Brom have hit a bit of form recently and seem to be finding the back of the net, I reckon that a 2-0 win for the Baggies, Everton at home...ah United might get a draw there with a Ronaldo penalty in the last few minutes (from a dive of course) and as for West Ham, well they have been a bogey team for ye of late so a definite 3 points for the hammers with Carlton Cole continuing his good form...probably 3-1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭Dubliner28


    You have to play each team twice doesnt matter when you play them IMO
    Just a lame excuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭shakespeare


    i reckon dates of fixtures matter alot...

    for instance...

    playing one of youre title rivals on the first day of the season does not even have a comparable level of pressure to playing the same rival on the last day of the season when the result is important...

    i know this is the extreme but to varying degrees...it very relevant indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭SWAR


    touchy touchy!

    thats why i dont post on here...too many defensive people.

    It doesnt need to be well thought out and it certainly isnt bias smart arse...

    look at the two sets of fixtures, on paper, which fixtures look more difficult.
    any footie fan on here will tell you...uniteds fixtures look easier and most fans
    would take uniteds over liverpools

    so my point is...these are very important fixtures considering the title race...and being so early in january...i find that unusual as the tension usually starts a bit later in the season...
    so before you get sarky cause youre a ickle bit moany after another slip up at home...try put youre own bias aside...

    in my opinion...as i stated...liverpool have some tought fixtures ahead...while their closet rivals perhaps have an easier run of it.......discuss...

    PS: ill coming looking for ya after the chelsea game considering youre smarmy gee-d up comment...chelseas form away, liverpools at home...pressure building etc. funny feeling you'll eat your words...

    Well I usually feel points make more sense when they are well though out...and as you appear to be a United fan juding by your comments (and your posts in the Utd Thread), then I would be of the opinion that comments MAY be slightly biased...just my well thought out opinion though!

    Any footie fan will also tell you that you don't win football matches on paper.

    Regarding my "bias" comments...it's not bias, it's called sarcasam, as I felt your post didn't warrant anything else.

    Eh you were the one that made the comment about the g-eed up Chelsea, I just quoted you. Come looking for me all you want...I didn't say we would win, I just said even if Chelsea are g-eed up for the game, it still may not smooth over the apparnt cracks that seem to be there...and I used the United game as an example, where they were playing away from home and you would of thought they would of been up for that game but judging by their performance it didn't look like it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭shakespeare


    of course matches arent won on paper but since when is the apparent ease or difficulty of the upcoming fixtures of title contenders a)not relevant for discussion or b) an appropriate receipient of your sarcasm?

    my point...

    bottom line...

    i think liverpool have it tough in the coming weeks...
    i think utd have it easier...

    no bias...

    youre point...
    "so what...anything could happen...ya just dont know" (allbeit more "Sarcastically ")

    i know its not about teams on paper...but how about some proper discussion?
    a difficult away tie to one of the form teams at the moment in wigan...Chelsea at home is never gonna be easy to call...etc.
    not just..."well so what...no one knows...so not point discussing...anything could happen...shut down the board...oh no wait...do i even have apoint....or was i just being sarky for lack of intelligent input?"

    just tryin to gauge liverpool fans feelings on their difficult upcoming fixtures...
    and whether or not they feel (considering uniteds corresponding fixtures) that their title challange may be waning? or may wane pending on the next few weeks? (bearing in mind what i said before about it being very early in the season for real tension)

    (PS: these sorts of discussions were rife before xmas in here...when the world and its dog looked at fixtures against fulham, hull, stoke, west ham etc and saw points on the board? so is my question not a valid one now?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Actually I do not care a lot about that game.

    We have another tough derby this week, a Chelsea fixture, a ManU clash, 96 martyrs to honor, and league titles record to maintain...

    Bring it on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭onemorechance


    Bet 365 have now got Liverpool at 5/1. Anyone going to take it? This is best odds all season I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭lpool2k05


    Just a few points!!

    Very sick by the result but I just hope I dont have to listen to Craig Burleys 'unbiased' views throughout another match again!!He didnt say one good thing bot 'pool last nite!

    As for the games coming up!!I think we will get our revenge in the FA Cup with Torres finally finding the net at Anfield this season..then on to the JJB!I think we are playing better away from home..less pressure!!Think we may get a 2-0 win there!!We simply have to win that game!!The chelsea game...will be tough but I do think chelsea wont be up for the challenge!!maybe nick a 1-0

    As for the title in general...Hell there is 5 teams going for it!!We really do need to shift up a gear!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭SWAR


    of course matches arent won on paper but since when is the apparent ease or difficulty of the upcoming fixtures of title contenders a)not relevant for discussion or b) an appropriate receipient of your sarcasm?

    my point...

    bottom line...

    i think liverpool have it tough in the coming weeks...
    i think utd have it easier...

    no bias...

    youre point...
    "so what...anything could happen...ya just dont know" (allbeit more "Sarcastically ")

    i know its not about teams on paper...but how about some proper discussion?
    a difficult away tie to one of the form teams at the moment in wigan...Chelsea at home is never gonna be easy to call...etc.
    not just..."well so what...no one knows...so not point discussing...anything could happen...shut down the board...oh no wait...do i even have apoint....or was i just being sarky for lack of intelligent input?"

    just tryin to gauge liverpool fans feelings on their difficult upcoming fixtures...
    and whether or not they feel (considering uniteds corresponding fixtures) that their title challange may be waning? or may wane pending on the next few weeks? (bearing in mind what i said before about it being very early in the season for real tension)

    (PS: these sorts of discussions were rife before xmas in here...when the world and its dog looked at fixtures against fulham, hull, stoke, west ham etc and saw points on the board? so is my question not a valid one now?)

    Your point was, and I quote, "it's gonna get worse before it gets better for Liverpool"...after you gave us your unbaised opinion on the next three matches and how you feel it's quite strange for pressure like this in January, which I don't really understand. It didn't appear that you were trying to get a little discussion going, it looked to me as if you were trying to stick the boot in...why did you not post this in the Utd thread? Oh ye I forgot you were trying to "gauge Liverpool fans feelings on their difficult upcoming fixtures..." don't give me that sh1t.

    My point was not "anything can happen", try digesting what I wrote next time and not just what you want to read.

    Kids these days...tut tut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭SWAR


    Bet 365 have now got Liverpool at 5/1. Anyone going to take it? This is best odds all season I think.

    That's because we're probably in the worst position we've been in all season unfortunately. I wouldn't put too much on but may be worth a small punt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭shakespeare


    do you know what age i am?

    certainly not a kid pal...but youre childish poke suggests otherwise for you...

    tension builds as the season gets closer to an end ie. its more tense in may then in january. im unsure how you dont understand this? ie. if a team loses in january... its not usually the end of the world...unless that is...the fixture they lose is sandwiched between two other difficult fixtures which, if im not mistaken, adds to the amount of pressure the team feels. considering the team im speaking of is liverpool and the main FACTOR that the majority of people attribute to their doubt about them winning the league is "handling pressure" at the top....THEN I FIND IT QUITE UNBELIEVABLE...that ya think im trying to stick the boot in...
    so you go back and digest what i FIRST wrote...

    "My take on it....
    Utd: Win at west brom quite comfortably, a home win at everton and perhaps west ham being the sticky one...a win at upton park would be fantastic considering our recent record there so id be ok with a draw.

    Poolroblems at the JJB i reckon - draw, a g-eed up chelsea out for revenge-bore draw or loss, and an evening kick off at fratton park? draw maybe???

    point being - on paper...its gonna get worse before it gets better for liverpool in my humble opinion."

    all just my opinion...and im asking for yours...wheres the problem???

    unless...hang on...are you bitter and sensitive about last night?
    if so...then just say? becasue in that case...youre not in an emotional position to conduct a sensible discussion on ,imo...3 of the most important sets of fixtures in the 08/09 season.


    (before you respond, please read my originla post again and think first if perhaps youre being a bit too touchy?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭SWAR


    do you know what age i am?

    certainly not a kid pal...but youre childish poke suggests otherwise for you...

    tension builds as the season gets closer to an end ie. its more tense in may then in january. im unsure how you dont understand this? ie. if a team loses in january... its not usually the end of the world...unless that is...the fixture they lose is sandwiched between two other difficult fixtures which, if im not mistaken, adds to the amount of pressure the team feels. considering the team im speaking of is liverpool and the main FACTOR that the majority of people attribute to their doubt about them winning the league is "handling pressure" at the top....THEN I FIND IT QUITE UNBELIEVABLE...that ya think im trying to stick the boot in...
    so you go back and digest what i FIRST wrote...

    "My take on it....
    Utd: Win at west brom quite comfortably, a home win at everton and perhaps west ham being the sticky one...a win at upton park would be fantastic considering our recent record there so id be ok with a draw.

    Poolroblems at the JJB i reckon - draw, a g-eed up chelsea out for revenge-bore draw or loss, and an evening kick off at fratton park? draw maybe???

    point being - on paper...its gonna get worse before it gets better for liverpool in my humble opinion."

    all just my opinion...and im asking for yours...wheres the problem???

    unless...hang on...are you bitter and sensitive about last night?
    if so...then just say? becasue in that case...youre not in an emotional position to conduct a sensible discussion on ,imo...3 of the most important sets of fixtures in the 08/09 season.


    (before you respond, please read my originla post again and think first if perhaps youre being a bit too touchy?)


    Last word goes to you old man, as if I respond again it will no doubt be greeted with a long winded bunch of crap...couldn't be arsed anymore...prefer to speak/debate constructively with Liverpool fans in the LIVERPOOL thread.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭shakespeare


    ill go back to the utd thread so...and not post...as anything could happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    SWAR wrote: »
    Last word goes to you old man, as if I respond again it will no doubt be greeted with a long winded bunch of crap...couldn't be arsed anymore...prefer to speak/debate constructively with Liverpool fans in the LIVERPOOL thread.

    Ah you are on the wrong forum / boards so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    this thread has gone to the ****ing dogs.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    this thread has gone to the ****ing dogs.

    I'm afraid it's not just this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    this thread has gone to the ****ing dogs.

    Just take a look at the Merseyside Derby thread!!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,676 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    I'm glad I was out last night and not near a computer - I haven't looked at the match thread for yesterday and I won't either.

    Football wise it's been a very bleak january - but we need to get a result in the "2nd leg" the FA cup game solely for morale and then go into february with Torres and Xabi fully fit.
    Once the window closes the uncertainty over Dan Agger will be put to bed one way or the other and he can maybe play the role he deserves at the club.

    There is no need for panic while united are in great form (result wise) they haven't been unstopable on the pitch by any means - they will drop points but from here on we need to pounce on very single slip up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭daithijjj


    monkey9 wrote: »
    Just take a look at the Merseyside Derby thread!!

    I made the mistake of joining that thread last night and got dragged down to base levels..:o..........lesson learned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    The match thread was a complete shambles. All I want from this forum is a reasonable discussion about football - I don't even want a Liverpool love in.. Unfortunately, it is becoming more and more evident that the idots on this forum won't be dealt with in a remotely adequate fashion. I have said before, and still maintain, that club threads should be open to supporters of other clubs. Saying that, I am increasingly starting to believe that the club thread should be restricted to said clubs supporters while threads like the match thread should remain a free for all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    It's as much the regular posters fault as the trolls/morons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,453 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    why do liverpool fans pay attention to the trolls then


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,676 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    why do liverpool fans pay attention to the trolls then

    Why do the trolls troll?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,959 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    In fairness to Pools fan's I think they were quite well behaved in recent threads, some of the crap posted by Utd and Everton fans would rile anyone.

    We all like a bit of slagging between supporters of different teams but recently some on here have taken it far too low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    why do liverpool fans pay attention to the trolls then

    The trolls should be banned. I am pretty sure that one of the rules of this forum is that trolling is a bannable offence. It is isn't it should be made a bannable offence.

    It shouldn't be the Liverpool's fans responsibility to constantly deal with the same trolls over and over. If a poster can't be clearly categorised as a troll, they should be banned from the threads that they appear to throlling and allowed to continue posting on their own clubs thread.

    I have tried ignoring the trolls, I even added them to my ignore list - which is not working at the moment - but it is their sheer persistance that makes them impossible to ignore. The literally make up a half of all posts on this thread for god sake.

    I wondered recently why quite a few posters have left. It has become very apparent why - it just wasn't on my radar back a few weeks ago. I am very close to just packing it in myself and giving some other forum a go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Villain wrote: »
    In fairness to Pools fan's I think they were quite well behaved in recent threads, some of the crap posted by Utd and Everton fans would rile anyone.

    We all like a bit of slagging between supporters of different teams but recently some on here have taken it far too low.

    It is not even how low it is that annoys me.. It is the sheer volume and retarded nature of some of the posts that is getting under my skin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,453 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    ziggy wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    as ziggy has said why dont you report them


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,676 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    I know for a fact RE*AC*TOR - love him or hate him - completely gave up on this forum over constant trolling from a few people, some people who troll as obviously as possible and some who try to veil that they're just trying to get a rise out of people (they of course know who they are).

    I'm don't want to discuss moderation, but very shortly - I don't report it anymore because nothing is done about it - I used to sometimes - now I avoid the threads sadly.
    Someone trolling is subjective it's not like calling someone a prick - one mod might think it's trolling and another may think that it was an honest comment etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    This happens every year around this time.
    Usually however it's...... "I told you you wouldn't compete".
    This time it's....."hah, there goes your title challenge".

    Nothing new.

    Same troll, different day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    How is that trolling?

    I don't support an EPL team and I believe Pool's chances are gone. United aren't going to give up top spot again this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    SantryRed wrote: »
    I don't support an EPL team and I believe Pool's chances are gone. United aren't going to give up top spot again this season.

    That is not trolling...

    This is trolling "hahahahhahahhaha you are ****.. you are a mid table side without gerard.. hahahahahhahaha hahahahhahha ahhahahaah"

    Tis also remarkably common...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    That is not trolling...

    This is trolling "hahahahhahahhaha you are ****.. you are a mid table side without gerard.. hahahahahhahaha hahahahhahha ahhahahaah"

    Tis also remarkably common...

    :pac:

    Oh right fair enough. Well I suggest yous get back on topic or this could end up being closed.


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